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PICS and small review. La scala's & dual Heresy II center


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For you that read my old post i decided on the 2 heresy centers. I purchased from a guy in orlando from craigslist which my friend that lives in orlando picked up and brought down for me. Turned out one of the tweeters was blown, so i purchased 2 new tweeters from crites. Additional 58$. I have been in contact with guy which i purchased from to see if he can meet me half way for tweeters because he told me speakers were 100% functional, nothing blown, obviously not so. Ill see how that goes....

So i tried different configurations for the Heresy as center. I tried 1 on its side, 2 on it side, one standing, 2 standing at different angles. I like it this was the best by far. Someone who responded to my old post recommended and i like the sound the best. The front stage is just seamless. You close your eyes while watching a movie and you can't pinpoint the speakers at all. Just big, beautiful vast sound coming at you. My old setup as some of you know what the rf-82 and rc-62. The dual heresy's beat out the rc-62 five to one. This set up is in a entire different league in SQ, robust spl, realism and all of the above.

I have a pair of marantz ma700 pushing the la scala's and i love these amps. For now i am running the heresy's off the pioneer receiver which i am using as preamp. The vsx-1018AH. I am in the market now for a single marantz ma700 for the centers which would put the amp at 4 ohms and 300 watts for pair OR split marantz ma500 at 125 watts a piece. I am running the pioneer at 4 ohm center channel right now for Heresy's, which i know is not recommended but others have done with no problems so for now will have to due.

So i connected the heresy's to the the ma700's and they sounded great. My GF was like wow Very impressed with such sound coming out of speakers that were not all that big. I my self am very impressed with the heresy's. I like how they sounded better than my rf-82's. Cleaner, more real sound. For the fun of it i connected one of heresy's to ma700 and la scala on other side to ma700. Standing in the middle, what a difference. At all volumes the heresy was noticeably quieter. The midrange seamed to not be there, the highs and lows sounded like they were being "drowned" for lack of a better word. All i can say is wow from the la scala at the other side. The highes were clear and alive. The bass from the la scala is just stunning, the horn loaded woofer is, to me, the clearest, cleanest bass you will ever hear. The squaker is were the la scala shines. Mid range is what what stood out the most above the other heresy. I was hearing insruments in la scala i did not even hear in the heresy. I LOVE MY LA SCALA'S!!!

Sub woofer, paradigm servo 15a, was turned off for this, fyi. There is my little review. Feel free to ask questions and give suggestions. Thanks to those who helped me put my system together.

Alex

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Was fun Alex, watching you put this together on the other thread . . . You have a great result and am impressive look . . . Maybe your GF will say "yes" now when you pop the question! I too started with RF82s and an RC62 . . . Loved the setup for four years . . . would have loved it forever . . . Scored a pair of la Scalas and temporarily dropped them in the HT as fronts . . . Amazing result. I simply thought my Reference setup could not be beat, well, until I tasted the Heritage . . . But I am not discarding the RF82s and RC62 . . . They are going into my bedroom tonight . . . Congrats, Alex!

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Congrats!

Two suggestions:

  1. Swap the sub and left La Scala to space out your La Scala more, and toe them in so that they point exactly towards you, as much as 45 degrees is fine (like Klipschorns).
  2. Put your AV rack on the side or back or the room (no distractions while watching a movie), thus allowing for lower Heresy centers and a lower screen (it looks too high to me).
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The highes were clear and alive. The bass from the la scala is just stunning, the horn loaded woofer is, to me, the clearest, cleanest bass you will ever hear. The squaker is were the la scala shines. Mid range is what what stood out the most above the other heresy. I was hearing insruments in la scala i did not even hear in the heresy. I LOVE MY LA SCALA'S!!!

It's hard to beat the LaScala midrange, to me any smaller horns do not even come close.

I tried M Colters lascalas here for a few months until he got them home and what you said is just what I thought.

To me at low volumes the bass was a little light, but with a little volume the bass was really tight and realistic sounding. I was hooked on the folded horn bass sound. [Y]

After you get a little use to the sound adjust that sub to fill in and sit back, looking like this.....[:D]

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1. I plan on making the switch between left la scala and sub to see what sounds best but I was just to lazy today moving all that heavy equipment. Plus i would need to move the TV a little to left to leave the tv in "middle" of la scalas. I dont think i will need to move the Tv mount, just the tv a little to the left on the already placed mount. Within the next few days i will try. I have experimented toeing in la scalas a bit more but I like the way they sound right now. Both are facing just outside of your ears when seated in center of couch watching tv. When I move the left la scala further out I'll probably toe them in a tad more. I'll see what sounds best.

2. I always thought my tv was a bit high. I'm going to try and move it a few inches down on its mount. Moving the whole av rack I will have to think about though. I do like the idea. I appreciate the advice. Alex

Congrats!

Two suggestions:

  1. Swap the sub and left La Scala to space out your La Scala more, and toe them in so that they point exactly towards you, as much as 45 degrees is fine (like Klipschorns).
  2. Put your AV rack on the side or back or the room (no distractions while watching a movie), thus allowing for lower Heresy centers and a lower screen (it looks too high to me).
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BTW . . . Good review . . . Looking forward already to your updated review after you find another pair of black Heresys for rears. Don't tell me you haven't thought about it! :-)

Of course i have thought about a pair of heresy's for back. My plan is to get a thrid la scala as center and move these heresy's to rears. This will all be in years to come...

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Alex,

Looking good my friend, and I am sure sounding good too. MusicYesMusic

Bill

I was wating for you to chime in Bill[:D] Thanks for all your help and advice.

You are right, i catch my self listening to different types of music i never really use to listen to. Lately i have been listening to Salsa. The instruments sound so lively and real.

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...So i tried different configurations for the Heresy as center. I tried 1 on its side, 2 on it side, one standing, 2 standing at different angles. I like it this was the best by far....

Congratulations on the LaScalas, but looking at your setup and reading about lobing and canceling issues with running two center channels it made me wonder what you liked about running two Heresies, instead of one? Did you also level match your speakers when testing?

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...So i tried different configurations for the Heresy as center. I tried 1 on its side, 2 on it side, one standing, 2 standing at different angles. I like it this was the best by far....

Congratulations on the LaScalas, but looking at your setup and reading about lobing and canceling issues with running two center channels it made me wonder what you liked about running two Heresies, instead of one? Did you also level match your speakers when testing?

I did alot of research before deciding on the two heresy's. From what i read-There is alot of TALK on cancelation; MOST real life reveiws this is really not the issue, More imporntantly is tweater/speaker placement and directioning. With them crossfiring they cover and sweep more room area... Im not really sure what it is but it definatly sounds better. Much more presence and less localization. Were ever you sit or stand in front of the tv seems like there is a center channel coming at you. Keep in mind, keeping up with la scalas....

I did level match test the speakers. The center is about a +5 on the receiver. Mind you, i listen to 75% stereo so only the two la scalas. I use the center for tv or movies. I am very very happy with they way they sound, and look[:D]

Alex

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BTW . . . Good review . . . Looking forward already to your updated review after you find another pair of black Heresys for rears. Don't tell me you haven't thought about it! :-)

Of course i have thought about a pair of heresy's for back. My plan is to get a thrid la scala as center and move these heresy's to rears. This will all be in years to come...

Sounds like a great plan . . . Educate me . . . How did you connect/wire the two Heresys to operate as once channel on your AVR setup? Would be interested to know how to do that . . Well, safely. :-)

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BTW . . . Good review . . . Looking forward already to your updated review after you find another pair of black Heresys for rears. Don't tell me you haven't thought about it! :-)

Of course i have thought about a pair of heresy's for back. My plan is to get a thrid la scala as center and move these heresy's to rears. This will all be in years to come...

Sounds like a great plan . . . Educate me . . . How did you connect/wire the two Heresys to operate as once channel on your AVR setup? Would be interested to know how to do that . . Well, safely. :-)

I straight up connected both speakers into the center channel output on receiver. Should give a final 4 ohm load. My receiver is recommended down to 6 ohms but I have read people that have run at 4 ohms with out a problem. Currently I am only using the receivers center channel speaker output to drive any speakers so I should be fine for now. Until I get another maranta ma700... Sounds pretty good too:) keep in mine I use my setup mostly for music in stereo so I really don't use center channel all that much.

Alex

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Looks really nice! Did you toe in the Heresy cabs to the angle that Quiet Hollow recommended? I think it was 12.5degrees for each cab.

Bruce

Yes I did. I did not actually measure but eye balled it and obviously listened to what sounds best.

Alex

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Looks really nice! Did you toe in the Heresy cabs to the angle that Quiet Hollow recommended? I think it was 12.5degrees for each cab.

Bruce

Yes I did. I did not actually measure but eye balled it and obviously listened to what sounds best. Alex

I also want to confirm when you level matched your speakers you did it with an SPL meter and not by ear, right?

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Wait 'till you hear the Klipschorns!

The highes were clear and alive. The bass from the la scala is just stunning, the horn loaded woofer is, to me, the clearest, cleanest bass you will ever hear. The squaker is were the la scala shines. Mid range is what what stood out the most above the other heresy. I was hearing insruments in la scala i did not even hear in the heresy. I LOVE MY LA SCALA'S!!!

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