Soundthought Posted June 10, 2002 Share Posted June 10, 2002 I have an issue of concern. I've been enjoying my RF7s' and RC7 for about a year. I've had the RF 5s'and 3s. I haven't had but one small problem. I've broken many grille mounting posts. They seem to break upon removal. I would perfer the grilles off. I just can't leave them off for too long. 2 kids +2 dogs +1 cat= Unhappy speakers. I've repaired them with little success. They stay on briefly then break back off. Repairing or replacing them isn't always an option... or is it?? Did they make a lot of extra Reference series grilles? I know these speakers could be handed down to my grandchildren. I expect them to last 30 years or more. I'm just not sure if the grilles can. I understand their specific design is for minimizing sonic interference. I don't think they're poor quality. Just that the mounts should be stronger. I guess i'm still used to wrestling the faces off my Heritage QTs'. They stick good and I never broke a magnet. Ha Ha... This message has been edited by Audioreality on 06-13-2002 at 12:25 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audible Nectar Posted June 10, 2002 Share Posted June 10, 2002 The best advice I can give is not to remove the grills. I understand the urge to show them off, but in my mind the need to preserve them outweighs the need to show the drivers. I don't remove my grills on my Cornwalls either - they are in too good of shape to mess with, so I remove them only when necessary - and very carefully, at that. The best way I know to show off such quality speakers is to blow your friends and family away with the sound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soundthought Posted June 10, 2002 Author Share Posted June 10, 2002 Why did they make them a deep, glowing copper if not to be seen often? Advertising seems geared toward the look. People are wanting to check out the design and marvel at their color. They're curious about this new "Cerametallic" driver. New stuff is hard not to look at, especially new speaker designs. Unfortunately, grilles must come off to get a real good look. That leaves me one question. Why not better mounts? Perhaps, they could design an aftermarket retro-fit or restructure the exsisting production models. Just brainstorming here. This message has been edited by Audioreality on 06-13-2002 at 01:50 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShapeShifter Posted June 11, 2002 Share Posted June 11, 2002 Yep, have broken a couple of those grill pegs on my RF-3's. Super glued them back. Always on or always off based on susceptibility to damage. I suspect replacement grills are a bit expensive. ------------------ KLIPSCH IS MUSICf> My Systems f>s>c> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qlele Posted June 11, 2002 Share Posted June 11, 2002 Try dropping those speaker, those grill and the peg will break in to pieces. Hey, it happened to me. No fault of any one, but Cripsch and my local Bad Guys dealer have nothing to do with it. After spending a few thousand dollars, set it up nicely and have it for a few days, my center speaker, being on top of a tv set, dropped! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soundthought Posted June 11, 2002 Author Share Posted June 11, 2002 I haven't really wasted my grilles yet. I broke 4 pegs off since I got my 7s but i'm on my third upgrade of RFs. Complete sets with dual surround back. The threes were my fisrt set. I had to really mess with them. The fives held up alot better. I left them alone most of the time. I can't seem to keep my hands off the sevens . I hope the replacement grilles are not too expensive. I know they're not giving them away. I've decided to try very hard to just leave 'em on and leave 'em alone. I'm sure i'll live, but more importantly so will my speakers. This message has been edited by Audioreality on 06-13-2002 at 03:22 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenratboy Posted June 12, 2002 Share Posted June 12, 2002 Why are you typing all your posts in this format? Just wondering! ------------------ Receiver: Sony STR-DE675 CD player: Sony CDP-CX300 Turntable: Technics SL-J3 with Audio-Technica TR485U Speakers: JBL HLS-610 Subwoofer: JBL 4648A-8 Sub amp: Parts Express 180 watt Center/surrounds: Teac 3-way bookshelfs Yes, it sucks, but better to come. KLIPSCH soon! My computer is better than my stereo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShapeShifter Posted June 12, 2002 Share Posted June 12, 2002 I recall someone posting last year that they received a price quote for a replacement RF-3 Grill that was around $50.00. For me, that qualifies as expensive. Wes ------------------ KLIPSCH IS MUSICf> My Systems f>s>c> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael hurd Posted June 13, 2002 Share Posted June 13, 2002 Cruel joke ! I have the rf3II's, but luckily have not broken them - yet. I remove them very carefully if I want to show them off. If you do break the pegs off, try a plastic bonding agent ( structural adhesive ) used for fixing things such as a plastic bumper cover. My favorite brand is Fusor. The repair will fill any gaps ( unlike super glue ) if you have any pieces missing. This would be cheaper than buying new grilles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickey Posted June 13, 2002 Share Posted June 13, 2002 Michael is right on...thanks to his good suggestion, I picked up the Fusor product. It works, unlike Crazy Glue. They can get a guy to hang off his hardhat with Carzy Glue on TV, yet I can't get it to bond two pieces of plastic. Fusor works as advertised. Good suggestion Michael. Colin ------------------ My System This message has been edited by chickey on 06-13-2002 at 09:40 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Cornell Posted June 13, 2002 Share Posted June 13, 2002 This is a quality issue? I dont see the reference speaker cabinet lasting long enough to pass it on, i think there pressed cardboard! My RP-3 i had, i leaned the speaker foreward a bit to adjust to sub output, and broke off 3 pegs! The cabinet seemed like pressed cardboard, almost like recycled matierial! Its all about preserving the earth for the future! I do resphect that, but the quality went down hill too! Its ganna get to the point where particle board is like gold! I can see speaker enclosures made of plastic before to long! Talk about a sealed seam! Actually sounds like a good idea, compareds to whats being made today! Picture a glass shinny speaker enclosure made of plastic! As far as the RF-7s and the rest, i personally would go to radio shack, or some other source and buy the metal speaker grilles that fit the woofers, and leave the speaker grilles off! Regards Jim This message has been edited by Jim Cornell on 06-13-2002 at 04:58 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boa12 Posted June 13, 2002 Share Posted June 13, 2002 crazy glue worked for me on one of the pegs of the rc-3. just had to use enough to cover the outer edge of crack. will probably never take the grill off again though. ------------------ My Home Systems Page This message has been edited by boa12 on 06-13-2002 at 01:14 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BobG Posted June 13, 2002 Share Posted June 13, 2002 Yo, Jim, Buddy - the cabinets are made from Medium Density Fiberboard. Same stuff used by most every high performance speaker company. You are inaccurate and misleading in stating the speakers are made of pressed cardboard. We'll take our lumps when deserved. Don't like the grilles? I'm with you and they will be revised on subsequent models. Many changes already made including the ability to lean the speaker forward without breaking the bottom grille pins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soundthought Posted June 13, 2002 Author Share Posted June 13, 2002 I haven't tried "Fusor" yet. I'll give it a shot. Thanx. Replacing the existing grille with individual ones from Radio Shack is a great idea. It's just not the one i'm looking for. I've been working on modifying my existing ones. There should be a way to replace the mounts with a hard rubber or metal studs. As far as the durability, I thought all Klipsch should last a lifetime or longer. That's part of why I got them. The other part is performance. My Heritage have never let me down. Is the quality that much different now from where it was just 10 years ago? The day they came out with a "bookshelf" speaker I was a bit worried. Had they fallen prey to the mainstream market and their definition of quality? I would like to think not. This message has been edited by Audioreality on 06-13-2002 at 03:00 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Cornell Posted June 13, 2002 Share Posted June 13, 2002 Bob G, Sorry, i got a little foot in mouth again! The cabinet was pretty heavy, i should of looked at it closer, at the time having the cornwalls, nothing at the time looked built good! LOL! I didnt think the grilles would go un noticed, but over all, in person the reference are some fine looking, and great sounding speakers! If i have to be corrected, thats fine, im learning as well! Regards Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShapeShifter Posted June 13, 2002 Share Posted June 13, 2002 Haven't heard their bookshelfs. But I have read very good reviews posted by owners of RB-3's and RB-5's. Wes ------------------ KLIPSCH IS MUSICf> My Systems f>s>c> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted June 15, 2002 Share Posted June 15, 2002 What a bunch of klutzes ------------------ Deanf>s> Cary AE-25 * S F Line 1 * S9000ES * HSU x-over * SVS CS+ * RF-7 Klipschcones® f>s> Exigency is the matriarch of ingenious contrivancef>c>s> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShapeShifter Posted June 16, 2002 Share Posted June 16, 2002 quote: Originally posted by deang: What a bunch of klutzes Sticks and Stones...Bounces Off Me and Sticks on You!! Happy Fathers' Day Wes ------------------ KLIPSCH IS MUSICf> My Systems f>s>c> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikekid Posted June 16, 2002 Share Posted June 16, 2002 Hey, J-B weld would probably work as good as anything on those grills. The stuff has been holding my storm door closure together for years now! Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthew2 Posted June 17, 2002 Share Posted June 17, 2002 When will these "new grills" be out. Can people with old R.Series speakers be able to order the new ones. ------------------ Matthew Klipsch Rocks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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