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Speaker Cable Gauge, Length and Bananna Plugs???

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Do to my room configeration one cable length would be 30'(+-) and the other would be 12'(+-).

Here are my questions:

What gauge?

Should I make them both the same length?

Will the coiled excess length cause any problems?

I'm waiting of my Carver M500t MK II repairs (re-cap and re-fresh), what are the best bananna plugs for the 5 way binding post and at the Cornwall II's connnection cup?

The Carver M500t MK II pwer will be upgraded from 251 watts per channel @ 0.15% THD (8 ohms) to 395 watts per channel @ 0.15% THD (8 ohms)

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Thanks in advance....

RonW.

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I have a similar situation. My cables are abotu 12' and 40'. Cut them to size, don't make them the same length.

I use this stuff:

http://www.performanceaudio.com/item/Mogami-W3103/5639/

11 awg which is much more than you need, but it does not coil up and it lays on the floor very nicely and follows your baseboards.

I buy bananna plugs off of ebay, Here is what I have used for years (and they still look new):

http://www.nakamichiplug.com/product-0534E12.html

I bought from ebay so don't know about the seller. Throw away the "nakamichi" outer part and use hear shrink to make a pretty wire.

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With 16AWG, the 30' run will have .12 ohms of resistance. With 11AWG, it drops to .038 ohms. Is it audible, or a difference worth worrying about? Time for a Double Blind Test!!

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With 16AWG, the 30' run will have .12 ohms of resistance. With 11AWG, it drops to .038 ohms. Is it audible, or a difference worth worrying about? Time for a Double Blind Test!!

Blind test will not work for the cable that I recommended because I recommend it for its looks. I like it because it rolls out nicely and does not coil up. Follows the baseboard very nicely and the thickness looks good.

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Yes just cut your wire to the length you need for each speaker, don't worry about matching lengths.

I agree Mogami wire is the very best however I prefer to use Mogami W2921 which is quad cable (4 wires at about 13 gauge each) and I bi-wire them. I love both how they look and sound.

Here is the Mogami W2921 cable

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Then I cover them with tech flex and use cable pants and heat shrink tubing to make them look nice and my favorite banana's are GLS locking banana's

from Orange County Speaker http://www.speakerrepair.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=locking

Speaker end

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Amp end

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Cable and banana's to be installed

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Installed cable at amp

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GLS makes very nice ends and they are reasonably priced. I have never tried their bannana plugs, but I use their RCA's exclusively. Cables that I made about 8 years ago still look like new, no chipping, pitting, turning color or anything like that. Love their products. I use Mogami mic cable for the RCAs.

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I use Mogami mic cable for the RCAs.

Same here, my processor and amps are connected with Mogami W2932 which is 8 channel snake cable (only 7 channels are being used for my 7.1 system) with Neutrik XLR connectors.

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I'm not going to get into the wire quality debate but what I will say is you should cut to the lenght you need and bit extra for placement/cleaning. As for the bananas I used sets from Lowes they are the double set screw type and when tightened down w/ the right screw driver they will never pull out.

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I've been looking for new speaker cables myself. I think I might go with Audioquest this time. The speaker cable I am thinking of buying is called Everest. Looks like very nice cables. [8-)]

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rich guy, beautiful job on those cables. definitely oem quality finish.

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back when I bought my kg 1's, c. 1991, Klipsch recommended "Special" Wire, but a minimum of 16 gauge; do they still recommend "Special" wire in new owner's manuals?

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never mind, here's from modern owner's manual:

Use 16-gauge (AWG), two conductor, copper wire at a

minimum and larger gauge wire for longer runs. The

connection terminals on your loudspeaker will accommo

date bare wire, spade terminals or banana type plugs.

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There is some good links there, thanks guys. Thanks for this thread, I just like making my own speaker wires, and telling people I paid thousands for them you should see the look on their face.

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I have a similar situation. My cables are abotu 12' and 40'. Cut them to size, don't make them the same length.

I use this stuff:

http://www.performanceaudio.com/item/Mogami-W3103/5639/

11 awg which is much more than you need, but it does not coil up and it lays on the floor very nicely and follows your baseboards.

I buy bananna plugs off of ebay, Here is what I have used for years (and they still look new):

http://www.nakamichiplug.com/product-0534E12.html

I bought from ebay so don't know about the seller. Throw away the "nakamichi" outer part and use hear shrink to make a pretty wire.

do you order from that Nakamichi link? if so, how long does it take to receive your order?

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I'll be the odd man out. Cut your cables to the same length to preserve the same phase length. Do not coil the extra length just let it pile up in a random fashion. Someone will show up and tell me phase length is a non-issue but I'm too old to change at this point.

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It makes a difference for RF, not for audio.

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I'm usually the guy who says the length differences will not affect quality.

But in this case it seems greater than usual.

I say make the cable lenghts equal. That way you can use them if your situation changes. And in the present case you'll sleep better, and Russ will sleep better.

WMcD

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Speaker cables would need to have hundreds of feet difference in length to make an audible difference because of length differences. Make the cables the length you need, not only does it look much nicer but having excess cable lying around is one way to pick up hiss, humm and other unwanted noise into your system.

Good cable management by not having excess cable and keeping cables separated by speaker cables, interconnects and power cables will help quiet and blacken the systems noise floor which helps to improve the overall sound quality of the system.

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I have a similar situation. My cables are abotu 12' and 40'. Cut them to size, don't make them the same length.

I use this stuff:

http://www.performanceaudio.com/item/Mogami-W3103/5639/

11 awg which is much more than you need, but it does not coil up and it lays on the floor very nicely and follows your baseboards.

I buy bananna plugs off of ebay, Here is what I have used for years (and they still look new):

http://www.nakamichiplug.com/product-0534E12.html

I bought from ebay so don't know about the seller. Throw away the "nakamichi" outer part and use hear shrink to make a pretty wire.

instead of throwing away the part that says "Nakamichi", which I like, goes with my tape deck, you can simply use Acetone to remove the wording and keep those parts without using "hear shrink" to Jerry rig a pretty wire...

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