Rivernuggets Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 I will be going to Axpona on Thursday Morning somewhere in the Chicago area. It's a 3-day Hi Fi show and I have to help Greg from Volti setup his room at 8 AM. So I can meet you there at that time if you like. Thanks Claude. I'll try and move things around on my end so I can make the drive. If possible I'd be there around 11am. Will post here or PM if I can make it or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 When I look into my next Sub, iv got to hear that new fangled FanSub before making a purchase. The servo drive contra bass by Tom Danley???? There must be a reason why he went to tapped horns instead. http://www.soundandvision.com/content/way-down-deep-ii-servodrive-contrabass No, the fan sub is literally a fan built into the room like an Infinite Baffle. It's crazy expensive and is flat from 1Hz up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 FAN SUB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaudeJ1 Posted April 7, 2014 Author Share Posted April 7, 2014 I dont have anything like you do Claude although im 2ch only. I refuse to step into such places as "classic stereo" cause i always end up pissing them off cause my 2ch rig sounds lumps better than any of there theater setups let alone the $30k theater room they have locally which both my theater and 2 ch especially sound so much better its not funny with their new up to date gear. Iv had it and want 2ch hifi only. I just cannot get enough. Thanks for your direction if you could take a moment to tell me where to get this info, please. Mark Beeker Fortunately, I have achieved my goal in it's present configuration. I'm using the same setup for 2 channel as well as 7, with the same subs on both, and a common R and L front. My best friend and audio buddy for decades is more of a "purist" whereas his 2 ch. is as pure analog as he can get, with a $6,000 Pass pre-amp, and Open Baffle speakers of his own design and construction. Heck he's even in the market for a new turntable, you know, the scary looking kind that cost more than a used car! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaudeJ1 Posted April 7, 2014 Author Share Posted April 7, 2014 (edited) When I look into my next Sub, iv got to hear that new fangled FanSub before making a purchase. The servo drive contra bass by Tom Danley???? There must be a reason why he went to tapped horns instead. http://www.soundandvision.com/content/way-down-deep-ii-servodrive-contrabass No, the fan sub is literally a fan built into the room like an Infinite Baffle. It's crazy expensive and is flat from 1Hz up. When I look into my next Sub, iv got to hear that new fangled FanSub before making a purchase. The servo drive contra bass by Tom Danley???? There must be a reason why he went to tapped horns instead. http://www.soundandvision.com/content/way-down-deep-ii-servodrive-contrabass No, the fan sub is literally a fan built into the room like an Infinite Baffle. It's crazy expensive and is flat from 1Hz up. So, bottom line for the single digit "bottom" is about $15,000 installed. Talk about the law of diminishing returns. I'm quite happy with my Danley DTS-10's which register 8 Hz. in my room and represent a whole lotta bang for the buck in comparison. Yes it's cabin gain and it's rolled off, but if you are going the infinite baffle route, which this Fan requires, you can get a whole bunch of 18's that will move just as much air down there, if single digit Sub bass is your thing. My question would be: Is there ANY program material out there, Blue Ray LFE channels or otherwise that really demand this thing. Besides, my Danleys already stress the structural integrity of my home at 1/10th their rated output, so why would I want to even think about going further in this direction, except to amaze a few friends? Super Spuds are amazing enough when they vibrate the skin on my back side AND the couch I'm sitting on, even through fluffy cusions, during the Flight of the Phoenix plane crash. Nice to know this thing even exists, however. Diminishing returns indeed. Edited April 7, 2014 by ClaudeJ1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 There's plenty of material out there to utilize this. The biggest problem is that it doesn't replace your sub it just supplements it. You still need a sub flat to about 20 Hz to go along with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beeker Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 I dont have anything like you do Claude although im 2ch only. I refuse to step into such places as "classic stereo" cause i always end up pissing them off cause my 2ch rig sounds lumps better than any of there theater setups let alone the $30k theater room they have locally which both my theater and 2 ch especially sound so much better its not funny with their new up to date gear. Iv had it and want 2ch hifi only. I just cannot get enough. Thanks for your direction if you could take a moment to tell me where to get this info, please. Mark Beeker Fortunately, I have achieved my goal in it's present configuration. I'm using the same setup for 2 channel as well as 7, with the same subs on both, and a common R and L front. My best friend and audio buddy for decades is more of a "purist" whereas his 2 ch. is as pure analog as he can get, with a $6,000 Pass pre-amp, and Open Baffle speakers of his own design and construction. Heck he's even in the market for a new turntable, you know, the scary looking kind that cost more than a used car! I do understand. I have seen owned and heard many different setups(out of the box setups) and equipment that is worth way more than i would spend on it considering it doesnt sound worth a toot lol. Im happy with what i have right now but before i make anymore steps forward i want to make the correct choices. All over the internet and in other homes i find very biased info that misleads to say the least. I may be a bit biased with klipsch heritage although the next step for me is beyond what i only see in pics such as your avatars. And by golly your close to my place which iv always noticed. Thank you for your time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minermark Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 When I look into my next Sub, iv got to hear that new fangled FanSub before making a purchase. The servo drive contra bass by Tom Danley???? There must be a reason why he went to tapped horns instead. http://www.soundandvision.com/content/way-down-deep-ii-servodrive-contrabass 5K beats 25K every day of the week. I was looking into a used TRW. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaudeJ1 Posted April 7, 2014 Author Share Posted April 7, 2014 When I look into my next Sub, iv got to hear that new fangled FanSub before making a purchase. The servo drive contra bass by Tom Danley???? There must be a reason why he went to tapped horns instead. http://www.soundandvision.com/content/way-down-deep-ii-servodrive-contrabass 5K beats 25K every day of the week. I was looking into a used TRW. Well, even a new Danley DTS-10 is only about $3,000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Well, even a new Danley DTS-10 is only about $3,000. That's apples and oranges. I'm not sure that there's even another product on the market to compare the fan sub to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaudeJ1 Posted April 7, 2014 Author Share Posted April 7, 2014 Well, even a new Danley DTS-10 is only about $3,000. That's apples and oranges. I'm not sure that there's even another product on the market to compare the fan sub to. Maybe, so, but it's more green apple vs. red apples, since they both attempt to move a lot of air with sine input and amplifiers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 With your analogy, we could compare subwoofers to mid bass horns. The problem is they're purpose built for two different things. The DTS-10 can't do what the rotary sub can, conversely, the rotary sub can't do what the DTS-10 does. The DTS-10 AND the rotary sub would be a really nice set up for the LFE channel however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaudeJ1 Posted April 7, 2014 Author Share Posted April 7, 2014 (edited) With your analogy, we could compare subwoofers to mid bass horns. The problem is they're purpose built for two different things. The DTS-10 can't do what the rotary sub can, conversely, the rotary sub can't do what the DTS-10 does. The DTS-10 AND the rotary sub would be a really nice set up for the LFE channel however. Not exactly because there is a big overlap between the realizeable frequency bands of a Fan and a DTS-10, whereas, a subwoofer (80-100 Hz. down) and bass/midbass horn (80-300) have very little overlap by definition. However, assuming a singular, no-compromise, mindset without consideration to budget limits or diminishing returns or available program material of Sub Bass, you are absolutely right. Edited April 7, 2014 by ClaudeJ1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivernuggets Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 This THT horn sub is for sale again. I purchased this in early April and just can't get down to Indianapolis to pick it up. Claude is a great guy and has been a pleasure to work with. I was the weak link in this transaction.....purchased without really thinking of the road trip involved. Easy to do with all the good things I've heard about horn loaded subs. The way this goes is buyer will pay me, then pick up at Claude's place in Indy. Sure you'll be PMing with two people for this, but this sub is more than worth it. To all the droolers, this is your chance to get a killer sub for an unbeatable price. $375 Paypal. I'll eat their 3% fee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaudeJ1 Posted May 27, 2014 Author Share Posted May 27, 2014 This THT horn sub is for sale again. I purchased this in early April and just can't get down to Indianapolis to pick it up. Claude is a great guy and has been a pleasure to work with. I was the weak link in this transaction.....purchased without really thinking of the road trip involved. Easy to do with all the good things I've heard about horn loaded subs. The way this goes is buyer will pay me, then pick up at Claude's place in Indy. Sure you'll be PMing with two people for this, but this sub is more than worth it. To all the droolers, this is your chance to get a killer sub for an unbeatable price. $375 Paypal. I'll eat their 3% fee. Come on down and get this killer sub, so you too can break your windows and piss off your neighbors! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexg5775 Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Killer good deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappydue Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Too bad it wasn't closer id snag it to try out in the living room. Good luck with your sale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ClaudeJ1 Posted June 2, 2014 Author Share Posted June 2, 2014 (edited) So how does this do with music? I have Cornwall's and Heresy's, and a great tube amp from ampsandsounds Mostly blues, classic rock, soul/funk, jazz. Source is Oppo 103, and streaming. Does it require a corner or other special placement? sorry for all the Q's..... There are notes that your Cornwalls can't reproduce. It came to my attention about 7 years ago, that there's quite a bit of bass content below 40 Hz. in modern music (31 hz. for a 5-string bass, lower for synthesizer). Besides ALL speakers, even Khorns roll off before 40 Hz. and are weak there. The "slam" in a Cornwall is a 90 Hz. peak in the response (shown in Klipsch literature of the past). So unless you have a room peak to compensate (not likely) at your sweet spot, you need a sub. When it's set up right, you won't know it's there until you need it, but when you do, it's amazing. Tapped horns are better for movies although they would work well with Cornwalls for music or movies crossed at 40-60 Hz., horns like the Tuba HT or the F-20 are better for music, especially with a LaScala. Edited June 2, 2014 by ClaudeJ1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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