Heritage_Head Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 (edited) Audssey has its own level. You cant change that when it runs. It sets everything so that when you get up to 0 your at reference. Edited September 3, 2014 by reference_head 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heritage_Head Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 The only way to trick it would be to lower the gain of the speakers out side of the avr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heritage_Head Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 (edited) My avr is doing the same with macc. So its not just audyssey. I use the shack and set them that way. After I run macc. But for me reference is not 0. And I think thats what scrappy wants. Edited September 3, 2014 by reference_head Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel Posted September 3, 2014 Moderators Share Posted September 3, 2014 (edited) reference_head, on 03 Sept 2014 - 11:15 AM, said:reference_head, on 03 Sept 2014 - 11:15 AM, said:reference_head, on 03 Sept 2014 - 11:15 AM, said:Audssey has its own level. You cant change that when it runs. It sets everything so that when you get up to 0 your at reference. Well that shoots that idea in the butt, had a feeling you couldn't change it. Cover the mic with a bunch of sox No way to just put something inline to lower the mic level instead of on each speaker ? Edited September 3, 2014 by dtel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heritage_Head Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 That would work but then he wont know that reference is at 0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel Posted September 3, 2014 Moderators Share Posted September 3, 2014 reference_head, on 03 Sept 2014 - 1:04 PM, said:That would work but then he wont know that reference is at 0. Until a few years ago no one knew unless they figured it out with a Db meter, they set the volume where they liked, 0 or reference really does not mean anything, especially since the word reference is used for almost anything these days. OK I'll stop 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heritage_Head Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 (edited) Edited September 3, 2014 by reference_head Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heritage_Head Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 reference_head, on 03 Sept 2014 - 1:04 PM, said: That would work but then he wont know that reference is at 0. Until a few years ago no one knew unless they figured it out with a Db meter, they set the volume where they liked, 0 or reference really does not mean anything, especially since the word reference is used for almost anything these days. OK I'll stop Lol its ok man I know what your saying. I didnt even know macc set mine up that way tell a few months back. I can see how the ocd kicks in and somthings have to be set up right. To me the reference at 0 is not that big a deal. But im pretty ocd on some things that im sure no one else cares that much about. So I can see his side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel Posted September 3, 2014 Moderators Share Posted September 3, 2014 This was just interesting to me, I do not have any of the programs, all I have is a test tone for each channel and you set it with a meter. I don't even have any HDMI connections or the new codes for BR, Yamaha Rxv 730. I have to use the 6.1 inputs. But figure one day I may need to know about this stuff for when I get into the current century. It already looks like I may have missed the HDMI thing as it looks to be going out. I shouldn't even be allowed to post in HT, we watch a movie every few months max, and it's usually the kids doing it, I should be banned from this section just for principal ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Smith Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 I'm still trying to get Audyssey XT32 tweaked in my system. The slightest movement of my sub's gain knob can take the trim level from -8 to +10. With the sub's gain knob barely turned up from 0 I've been able to get the default trim config to around +3 on the sub trim, which in turn puts the other speakers at around -2. I prefer to have everything default at 0, but +/-3 is considered a good spot to be in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Put a pillow over the mic Pro amps with gain adjustments would do the trick. You'll need to swap out the fans though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel Posted September 3, 2014 Moderators Share Posted September 3, 2014 Put a pillow over the mic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heritage_Head Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 This was just interesting to me, I do not have any of the programs, all I have is a test tone for each channel and you set it with a meter. I don't even have any HDMI connections or the new codes for BR, Yamaha Rxv 730. I have to use the 6.1 inputs. But figure one day I may need to know about this stuff for when I get into the current century. It already looks like I may have missed the HDMI thing as it looks to be going out. I shouldn't even be allowed to post in HT, we watch a movie every few months max, and it's usually the kids doing it, I should be banned from this section just for principal ! Ha! Yes get out! I would tell you to get with it and get a avr but. One movie every 2mo is a hard sell. Dont you watch tv through your system? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel Posted September 3, 2014 Moderators Share Posted September 3, 2014 (edited) On a rare occasion, but the commercials where they scream at you is aggravating, although some commercials have surprisingly good sound. I sometimes listen to football with it on, I like movies but we just don't seem to watch them except with the kids or guest. My wife can't seem to sit through a movie, especially if it an action movie or something silly. One day I will get a newer receiver, that may get me going again, this one sounds fine but missing the BR formats for sound so I am missing out on that part. One problem I have is my receiver remote is part worn out, you can turn the volume up but the down button does not work, this tends to give people heart failure, I have seen them jump off the sofa during a loud scene. It is kind of funny. Edited September 3, 2014 by dtel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heritage_Head Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 (edited) On a rare occasion, but the commercials where they scream at you is aggravating, although some commercials have surprisingly good sound. I sometimes listen to football with it on, I like movies but we just don't seem to watch them except with the kids or guest. My wife can't seem to sit through a movie, especially if it an action movie or something silly. One day I will get a newer receiver, that may get me going again, this one sounds fine but missing the BR formats for sound so I am missing out on that part. One problem I have is my receiver remote is part worn out, you can turn the volume up but the down button does not work, this tends to give people heart failure, I have seen them jump off the sofa during a loud scene. It is kind of funny. I bet. Your room is like a loaded shotgun waiting to go off Its like one giant speaker lol Edited September 3, 2014 by reference_head 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel Posted September 3, 2014 Moderators Share Posted September 3, 2014 No way you hardly notice the speakers, but look at this guy. PRO CINEMA HOME THEATER ROOM HERITAGE HOME THEATER KPT-904 X3 FRONT THREE Cornwall 1981 FRONTS KPT-1201-T2 SIDE SPEAKERS Heresy 1973 SIDE/REAR RB-61 II REAR SPEAKERS EMO UMC-1 PRE AMP SVS PB13-ULTRA BACK SUB Sherbourn 4z-75 POWER AMP SVS PB12-PLUS X2 FRONT SUBS Sharp 70" 732 TV SC-55 Elite AVR SVS SB-2000 SUB B&K 200.7 S2 POWER AMP JVC RS-45 (with Darbee) PROJECTOR Seymour center stage "125 2.35 AT SCREEN OPPO BDP-103 BLU RAY PLAYER Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heritage_Head Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 No way you hardly notice the speakers, but look at this guy. PRO CINEMA HOME THEATER ROOM HERITAGE HOME THEATER KPT-904 X3 FRONT THREE Cornwall 1981 FRONTS KPT-1201-T2 SIDE SPEAKERS Heresy 1973 SIDE/REAR RB-61 II REAR SPEAKERS EMO UMC-1 PRE AMP SVS PB13-ULTRA BACK SUB Sherbourn 4z-75 POWER AMP SVS PB12-PLUS X2 FRONT SUBS Sharp 70" 732 TV SC-55 Elite AVR SVS SB-2000 SUB B&K 200.7 S2 POWER AMP JVC RS-45 (with Darbee) PROJECTOR Seymour center stage "125 2.35 AT SCREEN OPPO BDP-103 BLU RAY PLAYER Lmao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USNRET Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 I had the same issue with on board (or pro version which I bought the kit and license for) reach max attenuation of -12. I bought 12 db attenuators but about the same time changed from ALK extremes to DeanG crossovers. Dean's brought the level back in line so I never took the attenuators out of the bag. My question for you Audyssey boys which know more than I; if I use Audyssey to do the set up and then use manual distance and gain (to ensure I haven't bump up to max limit) does the 'equalization' of Audyssey remain stored after the manual gain/distance adjustment? Side note: it's difficult to find a laptop with a serial port connection these days and the USB to serial adapter is problematic I hear, not tried, so I run a 50' serial cable to my PC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrickdj1 Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 The biggest problem with autoclibration is that the avr sets the test tone levels and it can't be adjusted. The only good thing about high negative numbers is that you won't clip the preamp signal, lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappydue Posted September 4, 2014 Author Share Posted September 4, 2014 It can too be changed. At least in audyssey it can. I just ordered a denon 4520. Gonna see how that pans out then will probably add pro amps to the mix so I can turn the gain down quite a bit before calibration. I should be golden then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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