Wolfbane Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 (edited) Why bother with an hib vaccine when you have horse radish, garlic, honey and vitamins? http://globalnews.ca/news/2662648/lethbridge-alta-couple-found-guilty-in-connection-with-death-of-18-month-old-boy/?utm_source=Homegnca-toronto&utm_medium=MostPopular&utm_campaign=2014 http://thedailybanter.com/2016/03/toddler-with-homeopathic-antivaxx-parents-dies/ Edited April 27, 2016 by Wolfbane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Morbius Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Stupid parents, should not breed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Stupid parents, should not breed. Or maybe their parents should not have let them live. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 But then again maybe the grandparents were also stupid to let their parents live. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted April 30, 2016 Moderators Share Posted April 30, 2016 Why bother with an hib vaccine when you have horse radish, garlic, honey and vitamins? http://globalnews.ca/news/2662648/lethbridge-alta-couple-found-guilty-in-connection-with-death-of-18-month-old-boy/?utm_source=Homegnca-toronto&utm_medium=MostPopular&utm_campaign=2014 http://thedailybanter.com/2016/03/toddler-with-homeopathic-antivaxx-parents-dies/ What a hugh surprise you posting this. You have this on the brain? Are you OCD by any chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 How about the great grandparents? I bet it was their parents fault. So you see, sterilization is too complicated---kill them all and let god sort them out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted April 30, 2016 Moderators Share Posted April 30, 2016 Here is a thread on vaccines, one of about 10 I think. https://community.klipsch.com/index.php?/topic/155045-for-your-consideration/#entry1830656 I think if you do a search on Jenny McCarthy you will probably find another 5, whooping cough another five, ad nauseaum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfbane Posted April 30, 2016 Author Share Posted April 30, 2016 Why bother with an hib vaccine when you have horse radish, garlic, honey and vitamins? http://globalnews.ca/news/2662648/lethbridge-alta-couple-found-guilty-in-connection-with-death-of-18-month-old-boy/?utm_source=Homegnca-toronto&utm_medium=MostPopular&utm_campaign=2014 http://thedailybanter.com/2016/03/toddler-with-homeopathic-antivaxx-parents-dies/ What a hugh surprise you posting this. You have this on the brain? Are you OCD by any chance. Yes, in civilized western states you are free to believe whatever you want for yourself... but not for (your) innocent babies, toddlers and children without the capacity to understand that you are gambling with their very lives. Indeed, what a huge surprise? Sadly for these utter two fools they will also lose their two remaining children to the state at sentencing next month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 “It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into.”― Jonathan Swift 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfbane Posted April 30, 2016 Author Share Posted April 30, 2016 Stupid parents, should not breed. Or maybe their parents should not have let them live. That was exactly what their did with their youngest child. Too bad for the child that he had to die in such a horrid manner to satisfy fool's belief's and egos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 That was exactly what their did with their youngest child. Too bad for the child that he had to die in such a horrid manner to satisfy fool's belief's and egos My comment was directed at the child's grandparents if you follow the concept. It has to start somewhere right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjimbo Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 “It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into.” ― Jonathan Swift You must have been bored during intermission... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 “Satire is a sort of glass wherein beholders do generally discover everybody’s face but their own; which is the chief reason for that kind reception it meets with in the world, and that so very few are offended with it.”― Jonathan Swift Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjimbo Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Uh oh... Here we go... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfbane Posted April 30, 2016 Author Share Posted April 30, 2016 (edited) That was exactly what their did with their youngest child. Too bad for the child that he had to die in such a horrid manner to satisfy fool's belief's and egos My comment was directed at the child's grandparents if you follow the concept. It has to start somewhere right? Your comment, in this specific case, is dead on. The child's grandparent's still hawk the TrueHope Supplement Line and remain in business selling 'hope' to the desperate by the bottle. I think of it as take this as a replacement for proper care and you'll have 'No Hope'. Edited April 30, 2016 by Wolfbane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel Posted April 30, 2016 Moderators Share Posted April 30, 2016 (edited) Not a comment on the case just a question on the law ? This is from one of the links, "The maximum penalty for failing to provide the necessaries of life is five years in prison." What and who decides what is considered "necessaries" ? Food, water, shelter in some cases, sure after that who decides.? I would think the parents would come first, if they are the least bit competent, and who decides competency ? Does not wanting to vaccinate make them not competent, who's doing the judging ? Overwhelmingly people would not think living in a jungle with nothing but a makeshift hut and a spear is acceptable, so if it's overwhelmingly accepted there is no reason to not forcible remove every person out of that kind of life if they want to or not. ..................It's only right if it's overwhelmingly accepted. Before anyone goes all whiny on me and say it's an innocent child or whatever excuse there is,..................... I am for vaccinations, our kids got them, I just have a little problem forcing someone. People die everyday including kids. They even starve to death at rates much higher than an occasional kid here and there because of no vaccination, sorry just sad facts, not everyone makes it. Unfortunately smart or dumb sometimes it makes no difference, I'm always amazed how some have made it as long as they have. Edited April 30, 2016 by dtel 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfbane Posted May 1, 2016 Author Share Posted May 1, 2016 Not a comment on the case just a question on the law ? This is from one of the links, "The maximum penalty for failing to provide the necessaries of life is five years in prison." What and who decides what is considered "necessaries" ? Food, water, shelter in some cases, sure after that who decides.? I would think the parents would come first, if they are the least bit competent, and who decides competency ? Does not wanting to vaccinate make them not competent, who's doing the judging ? Necessities for life goes beyond food, water and shelter when you are critically ill and a toddler. Medical treatment in Canada is free to all. Here the Crown Prosecutor determines whether the actions of the parents, or guardians, actions are/were criminal and files charges. In this case, the parents not only did not get their child vaccinated against the often deadly meningitis (HIB vaccine would have prevented this) they also failed to ensure that the child was taken to the ER for treatment for several days after it's initial onset. They decided to substitute homeopathic treatments - quote: "They treated him for 2½ weeks with remedies that included hot peppers, garlic, onions and horseradish and a product from a naturopathic doctor aimed at boosting his immune system" (quoted from here: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/meningitis-trial-verdict-1.3552941). The parent's/grandparent's family business is the sale of their 'TrueHope' suppliments. Unsurprisingly, the were convicted at trial by judge and jury in a proceeding where they continued to play the 'we're being persecuted card'. Their supporting cast of fellow idiots reportedly sung hymns. The medical report in this case is available online and is as damning, as it should be, where a preventable and horrific death of a toddler from a massively swollen brain occurs. When your naturopath tells you to 'take your child to the ER immediately' it is often far too late. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/meningitis-trial-verdict-1.3552941 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JL Sargent Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Oh Boy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted May 1, 2016 Moderators Share Posted May 1, 2016 Not a comment on the case just a question on the law ? This is from one of the links, "The maximum penalty for failing to provide the necessaries of life is five years in prison." What and who decides what is considered "necessaries" ? Food, water, shelter in some cases, sure after that who decides.? I would think the parents would come first, if they are the least bit competent, and who decides competency ? Does not wanting to vaccinate make them not competent, who's doing the judging ? Overwhelmingly people would not think living in a jungle with nothing but a makeshift hut and a spear is acceptable, so if it's overwhelmingly accepted there is no reason to not forcible remove every person out of that kind of life if they want to or not. ..................It's only right if it's overwhelmingly accepted. Before anyone goes all whiny on me and say it's an innocent child or whatever excuse there is,..................... I am for vaccinations, our kids got them, I just have a little problem forcing someone. People die everyday including kids. They even starve to death at rates much higher than an occasional kid here and there because of no vaccination, sorry just sad facts, not everyone makes it. Unfortunately smart or dumb sometimes it makes no difference, I'm always amazed how some have made it as long as they have. It goes state by state for religious or philosophical differences. Here is anlink to see who does what, place to avoid. http://www.cdc.gov/phlp/publications/topic/vaccinations.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted May 1, 2016 Moderators Share Posted May 1, 2016 (edited) The National Vaccination Center also has information state by atate. Here is a link to their site describing the new California law which removes all exemptions for the required vaccinations. The twist in California is that a child A over 12 years of age can get vaccinated for STDs WITHOUT PARENTAL CONSENT. HPV is not a required vaccination in most states, or maybe any states. That is a real issue. http://www.nvic.org/Vaccine-Laws/state-vaccine-requirements/california.aspx Edited May 1, 2016 by dwilawyer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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