fluidcool Posted December 1, 2016 Author Share Posted December 1, 2016 30 hours at low mid and high volume mostly mid volume untill recent .. thats when i didnt like them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason str Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 13 minutes ago, fluidcool said: no bobs have the diff edge .. that might be the problem.. The originals were inverted rubber worked fine!!! Its not the surround that is going to make the difference, its the differences in thiele/small parameters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluidcool Posted December 1, 2016 Author Share Posted December 1, 2016 yes no leaks.. well ill just let them run for a while .. I'm not gonna be nervous about running them at a 100 watts then.. If they are rated for 150 should be ok . We will see if they break in or not. got 30 plus hours on them now.. In the mean time I'll rebuild the old ones 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvu80 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 I would think that thirty hours is a proper amount of time for break-in. I would expect the stiffer woofers to need break-in, not the soft rubber types, but that is speaking in general, not a definitive statement. I've not heard of Crites woofs having this problem. I suggest at this point you double-check the parts numbers on the driver itself (not just the box) to confirm those are the proper drivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluidcool Posted December 1, 2016 Author Share Posted December 1, 2016 yea they are me and bob have had several conversations on the phone .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjptkd Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Yes, the stock gaskets are extremely thin and old. I make a habit out of replacing all the gaskets with gasket tape any time I get new to me older speakers. They are thicker, squishy, provide an excellent seal and its really cheap and easy to do. I re-do all the gaskets including the one on the terminal cup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason str Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Unless you get Klipsch replacement re-cone kit the old woofers will never be the same as they were when new. Its possible you may be able to find some new old stock if you look hard enough. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvu80 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Just now, fluidcool said: yea they are me and bob have had several conversations on the phone .. Well, you've done your due diligence and they clearly are not performing as expected. I'll bow out of the conversation at this point because I don't have any other insight or suggestions. I will follow the thread because I'd like to see how this gets resolved. Good luck. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluidcool Posted December 1, 2016 Author Share Posted December 1, 2016 well hey "gaskets" umm should i have reused the old ones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluidcool Posted December 1, 2016 Author Share Posted December 1, 2016 looked like they had new ones on the back.. Maybe they were split ill put he old ones under them maybe that will help!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluidcool Posted December 1, 2016 Author Share Posted December 1, 2016 nevermind Ill redo the old ones and let you guys know thanks for the help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvu80 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Sounds like a plan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACM Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 Have you checked the polarity of the woofers to make sure they are hooked up correctly? I've swapped the speaker wires inadvertently in my haste to hear new speakers or speaker modifications. It's easy enough to rule out. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZEUS121996 Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 Are these what your woofers looked like? I think Mr.Crites' woofers are the same. I agree on checking the passive seals and making sure you didn't cross wire the woofers when you installed them. If I remember correctly, the woofers also have gaskets, did you replace them or were gaskets even there? BTW Simply Speakers is a good company to deal with. Mark 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjptkd Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 These are them here: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZEUS121996 Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 2 minutes ago, jjptkd said: These are them here: There's no reason those won't work. The surround is pretty much a standard design Klipsch has used for years. Gaskets or cross wired. And I've never heard anyone blow out a woofer before the tweeters fried, that in itself is impressive Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjptkd Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 36 minutes ago, ZEUS121996 said: I've never heard anyone blow out a woofer before the tweeters fried, that in itself is impressive Mark My late uncle bought a complete stereo system from Magnolia Hi-fi back in the early '90's that consisted of a Carver rack system with a TFM-45 amplifier and a pair of original Klipsch forte's. He blew out a woofer three times before they finally traded his speakers in for the forte II models, which he ended up blowing one of those woofers too. Of course he liked to drink too much and play music at concert level volumes for extended periods of time so that didn't help. I talked with the guys at Magnolia Hi-fi at the time and they told me it was a common problem and that they should have never sold such high powered amps with Klipsch speakers as a set. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjptkd Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 A friend of mine had an old Harman Kardon amplifier fail catastrophically one day when he powered it up, I guess it just let out a full volume buzz through both of his original forte speakers. He said he yanked the cord out of the wall within a few seconds but that was enough to toast both woofers. Surprisingly none of the horns were damaged.. I had the woofers re-coned for him and they lasted a long time and sounded great. He did eventually wear one of those out though through "normal" use and had to have it re-coned again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvel Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 1 hour ago, jjptkd said: Surprisingly none of the horns were damaged Probably fed straight A/C to the woofers at 60Hz. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluidcool Posted December 2, 2016 Author Share Posted December 2, 2016 10 hours ago, jjptkd said: My late uncle bought a complete stereo system from Magnolia Hi-fi back in the early '90's that consisted of a Carver rack system with a TFM-45 amplifier and a pair of original Klipsch forte's. He blew out a woofer three times before they finally traded his speakers in for the forte II models, which he ended up blowing one of those woofers too. Of course he liked to drink too much and play music at concert level volumes for extended periods of time so that didn't help. I talked with the guys at Magnolia Hi-fi at the time and they told me it was a common problem and that they should have never sold such high powered amps with Klipsch speakers as a set. sounds like me!!! drink too much play it loud every morning for 2 hours 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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