Colorado Cruiser Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Hi, tried searching the forums, but not having much luck. My speakers are almost 20 years old, I have KLF-30 fronts, KSF-C5 center and KSP-S6 rears. All driven by a Yamaha RX-Z9. I'm starting to look at new receivers to gain some of the new features from the past 10 years. As part of this, I started wondering about my speakers and how well they're matched up, and my gut says that my center isn't a good match. Given that the KLFs are almost 20 years old, is there a center in the current lineup that would be a great sonic match? Since I'll end up buying ATMOS speakers as part of the upgrade, I'm also open to changing my existing center/rears. Any and all advice is greatly appreciated! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtr20 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 To answer your question, I would say the rp-450c or the rc-64 ii. But since you are running klf-30s, I would highly recommend looking for a used klf-c7 that was designed for the klf-30s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The History Kid Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 The RX-Z9 is one of the few receivers where I make this recommendation instead: buy a good preamp and keep the Z9. That unit is an absolute monster to beat. I second what dtr said, the RC-64 would be your best bet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frzninvt Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 NONE! Get the correct center the KLF-C7 you will thank yourself later. Nothing is worse than a mismatched center. Your center channel is the most important speaker in your HT and all the other speakers are anchored to it so it is vitally important that it be timbre' matched. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjptkd Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Yes, the KLF-C7 is the matching center speaker and they're pretty decent, that's probably the best route to take. They show up on eBay quite regularly for decent prices too. If you feel guilty for buying used and spending so little use the extra funds to buy replacement crossovers and titanium tweeters. The money you'd save should easily pay for new parts for all three front speakers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted December 16, 2016 Moderators Share Posted December 16, 2016 Here are four on Craigslist KLF-C7 for $225 - Link KLF-C7 for $250 - Link KLF-C7 price unlisted - Link KLF-C7 for $450 (I think he's smoking something) - Link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The History Kid Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Second on the KLF-C7 push. Nothing Klipsch offers in 2016 will be able to compare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Cruiser Posted December 28, 2016 Author Share Posted December 28, 2016 Thanks for the input, much appreciated. Darn site didn't send me an email that anyone had replied, and it just dawned on me that I should come check... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Cruiser Posted December 28, 2016 Author Share Posted December 28, 2016 On 12/16/2016 at 2:28 AM, IbizaFlame said: The RX-Z9 is one of the few receivers where I make this recommendation instead: buy a good preamp and keep the Z9. That unit is an absolute monster to beat. I second what dtr said, the RC-64 would be your best bet. I've thought about doing this also, but unless I'm missing something I'd still need to add a second amp to get up to 9 channels of sound. Any suggestions on a complementary amp to power atmos and rear speakers? My problem is that I don't know enough about what's good, and would be a great match to the RX-Z9. Or is it really that critical for the atmosphere speakers, and any decent amp would work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The History Kid Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 28 minutes ago, Colorado Cruiser said: I've thought about doing this also, but unless I'm missing something I'd still need to add a second amp to get up to 9 channels of sound. Any suggestions on a complementary amp to power atmos and rear speakers? My problem is that I don't know enough about what's good, and would be a great match to the RX-Z9. Or is it really that critical for the atmosphere speakers, and any decent amp would work? You'd be capped at 7/2.1, but I'm not entirely sure Atmos has dedicated channels. (Though, thinking about it, I'm pretty sure it's FvH channels that are technically your Atmos channels, so maybe). The Z9 has Presence terminals which you should be able to use for Atmos if that's the case giving it a 9/2.1 powered ability. I think those presence channels are distributed by the FmR and FmL channels, so it may not work still. Regardless, if all you need to do is get a 2 channel amp to go with it, keep the Z9 and get one of the new Emotiva Bas-X amps, problem solved for under $400. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldred Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 +2 on the KLF-C7 George, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willland Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 I say get a good stereo amp to drive your mains or 3-channel to drive your LCR and let the Z9 drive all the rest. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Cruiser Posted January 7, 2017 Author Share Posted January 7, 2017 On 12/16/2016 at 5:38 AM, jjptkd said: Yes, the KLF-C7 is the matching center speaker and they're pretty decent, that's probably the best route to take. They show up on eBay quite regularly for decent prices too. If you feel guilty for buying used and spending so little use the extra funds to buy replacement crossovers and titanium tweeters. The money you'd save should easily pay for new parts for all three front speakers. I just read about Bob Crites last night, and am considering doing the replacements both on the KLF-30s and a KLF C7 when I find it. Are those the replacements you're referring to, or is there more than one source for these upgrades? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusaDude Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 7 hours ago, Colorado Cruiser said: I just read about Bob Crites last night, and am considering doing the replacements both on the KLF-30s and a KLF C7 when I find it. Are those the replacements you're referring to, or is there more than one source for these upgrades? Thanks! Crites is THE source... http://www.critesspeakers.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Cruiser Posted January 22, 2017 Author Share Posted January 22, 2017 Thanks for all the suggestions, I think I've finally gotten everything to where I want it for now. Installed Crites crossovers and titanium tweets in the klf-30s, and found a klf-c7 to go with them. I'll do the Crites upgrade on it also soon. I was surprised at the sound diff between the C7 and the ksf-c5 I was using for a center. It's a totally different kind of sound, and seems to blend in much better. I'm now looking for a second set of ksp-s6 to be far rear surrounds as supported by the Yamaha receiver. Thanks again! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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