Klipsch Employees Chief bonehead Posted June 8, 2023 Klipsch Employees Share Posted June 8, 2023 3 hours ago, PrestonTom said: That's enough. You have been spreading this mis-information for so long. You really have no idea what you are talking about (in spite of your 69,000 posts). Don't bother responding to this Except…….he is right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klipsch Employees Chief bonehead Posted June 8, 2023 Klipsch Employees Share Posted June 8, 2023 8 hours ago, deafbykhorns said: Not saying someone can't clone them, I just don't trust anyone unless I could verify it. A simple change in throat diameter, corner pieces, angles or woofer opening will change the sound a lot. I built two pairs of LaScala's in 1981, the first pair wasn't even close, the second pair I started to pay more attention to dimensions. At 120 db, no one will really care or know the difference, at normal listening levels, its obvious. I agree. Clones are just that….clones…..wannabe’s 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klipsch Employees Chief bonehead Posted June 8, 2023 Klipsch Employees Share Posted June 8, 2023 On 6/6/2023 at 6:21 AM, richieb said: - in the sellers interest, let’s clarify - the bass bins are not Klipsch built, they are aftermarket. All other pieces are factory Klipsch - But still clones. Not Klipsch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klipsch Employees Chief bonehead Posted June 8, 2023 Klipsch Employees Share Posted June 8, 2023 17 hours ago, deafbykhorns said: If they were an exact clone, then yes. Any slight variation could change the performance. By definition, a clone is not exact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klipsch Employees Chief bonehead Posted June 8, 2023 Klipsch Employees Share Posted June 8, 2023 8 hours ago, babadono said: ^company man. It is just a wood cabinet of specific dimensions/design. No one can build one except employees at klipsch in hope arkansas? whaddyatalkinbout. I’m a company man…clones are like close but no cigar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deafbykhorns Posted June 8, 2023 Author Share Posted June 8, 2023 7 hours ago, Chief bonehead said: I agree. Clones are just that….clones…..wannabe’s Thank you Roy for clarifying. I’m kicking myself for not jumping in with Richard when the underground’s were released. I heard his Jub’s back when he purchased them years ago but I don’t think they were set up right at the time so I passed. He had just installed the TAD’s and they probably weren’t dialed in yet. I didn’t hear a big improvement over my Khorns (at lower listening levels) as well. After hearing a pair a couple weeks ago with the Xilica, it was a new experience with Klipsch I haven’t heard before, even after upgrading mine to the latest version. The Heritage Jubs are beautiful but they just won’t fit unless I get rid of all the furniture(see attached pic) and the wife ain’t having that…the underground’s are almost the same footprint as the khorns. If i find a pair, i was going to give them a proper finish like the Heritage Jubs. I have been a Klipsch fan since I heard them in 1980, I couldn’t afford the LaScalas so in 1981 I built a couple pairs and purchased a used industrial top. It was close but no cigar as you said. I could finally afford a real Klipsch speaker after working lots of overtime and purchased the Khorns in 1985. I drove them with a Carver PM 1.5 hence my moniker. I later designed and built some 300b SET amps. Just finished a pair of custom GM70 amps last year. Enough with the rant and back to my search. If you’re ever in N Fla hit me up, I’ll take you fishing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winglet Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 9 hours ago, Chief bonehead said: By definition, a clone is not exact. By definition, a clone is identical..😉 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deafbykhorns Posted June 8, 2023 Author Share Posted June 8, 2023 1 hour ago, winglet said: By definition, a clone is identical..😉 That’s what the Chinese say…. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babadono Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 Actually by definition a "clone" IS an exact copy/duplicate...just sayin And yes I am very blessed and thankful that I have official made by Klipsch UG Jubes. I got wind of them very late in their life cycle, researched, went all the way to Idaho and then Hope to audition, saved up my pennies, was fortunate to meet Cory and purchase at what IMHO was a reasonable price. Purchased a new in box but technically used Xilica digital crossover from a member here and some used TAD 4002 drivers on Ebay both at IMHO resonable prices. They sound SUPERB. If money was no object I would probably jump to the Heritage Jubilee. Thank you PWK and Roy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babadono Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 And yes if you cannot hear a difference between KHorns and Jubes...sum ting wong 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babadono Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 All that being said you have to like the horn sound...there are people who would hear my Jubes and say "ah...no thanks". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deafbykhorns Posted June 8, 2023 Author Share Posted June 8, 2023 26 minutes ago, babadono said: And yes if you cannot hear a difference between KHorns and Jubes...sum ting wong All that being said you have to like the horn sound...there are people who would hear my Jubes and say "ah...no thanks" Yes, bad DSP settings and a difficult room to boot. What I heard last week and 10yrs ago was night and day. i have tried to like other speakers over the years but they all sounded so lifeless. The only other speaker I would consider is Classic Audio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Traveler Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 48 minutes ago, deafbykhorns said: 1 hour ago, winglet said: By definition, a clone is identical..😉 That’s what the Chinese say… No comment. 🤐 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babadono Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 11 hours ago, OO1 said: oooops , duplicate did you mean "clone"? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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deafbykhorns Posted June 15, 2023 Author Share Posted June 15, 2023 Looks like I'm going to audition some Heritage Jubilee's. Need to sell the wife on the size.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 I will pray , God Bless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1101 Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 16 hours ago, deafbykhorns said: Looks like I'm going to audition some Heritage Jubilee's. Need to sell the wife on the size.... They are roughly the size of my MCM setup with MWM bass cabinets. Pretty darn close. Good luck my friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deafbykhorns Posted June 19, 2023 Author Share Posted June 19, 2023 Well, the new Jubilees are insane! They do everything better than the khorns and go deeper than the underground’s. The new driver is also better than the underground’s. I took measurements and making a template to see if they fit in the corners (concerned about one side). Praying they fit, I have a fireplace and a piece of furniture that may prevent it. I haven’t felt this way since 1985 when I purchased my Khorns. I had to purchase a new house with a better room, maybe it’s time again… edit; Back to the drawing board, new Jubs are too large in width and don’t fit unless i move the audio furniture and all The wiring 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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