the real Duke Spinner Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Low E on a 4 string electric bass is 41 hz With a 50 hz cutoff on LS Where does that lead ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KT88 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Overtones of a fundamental tone work wonders to the ear and to the brain. My LS3/5a go down to 75Hz and I don't miss anything when I listen to jazz or classical music. The son of Peter Walker (Quad ESL) Ross Walker said in an interview thirty years ago, "if you miss bass, step with your foot in a big cardboard box to the rhythm of the music". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakeydeal Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 33 minutes ago, the real Duke Spinner said: Low E on a 4 string electric bass is 41 hz With a 50 hz cutoff on LS Where does that lead ?? You come across as someone who’s never even heard this speaker. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceptorman Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Most bass signals in modern music tracks lie around the 90-200 Hz area. The frequencies around 250 Hz can add a feeling of warmth to the bass without loss of definition. Too much boost in the bass region tends to make the music sound boomy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KT88 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 30 minutes ago, Ceptorman said: Most bass signals in modern music tracks lie around the 90-200 Hz area. The frequencies around 250 Hz can add a feeling of warmth to the bass without loss of definition. Too much boost in the bass region tends to make the music sound boomy. This is what the BBC realized 50 years ago with their speakers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KWB Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 Give yourself time. Your speakers are breaking in ,and so are you to a new sound. Give it a chance. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KT88 Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 Welcome KWB to the forum. You make the right start, two posts and two likes🤠👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the real Duke Spinner Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 16 hours ago, Shakeydeal said: You come across as someone who’s never even heard this speaker. I have LS Pro. 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Invidiosulus Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 17 hours ago, the real Duke Spinner said: Low E on a 4 string electric bass is 41 hz With a 50 hz cutoff on LS Where does that lead ?? 17 hours ago, Shakeydeal said: You come across as someone who’s never even heard this speaker. Corner placement and room size can help with the low end response but if you are used to listening to a speaker that actually goes lower then you will notice a difference. My living room speakers are reasonably flat to around 35Hz and they sound much more full on the low end compared to the stock original style LS. that being said, what others have stated with regards to giving the new LS some time to break in is also a good idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the real Duke Spinner Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 17 minutes ago, Invidiosulus said: others have stated with regards to giving the new LS some time to break in is also a good idea. We are going to disagree here Bruce Jr 6 minutes is enough time for suspensions to loosen up Point me to a JBL or Altec bulletin on " break in*. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakeydeal Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 31 minutes ago, the real Duke Spinner said: We are going to disagree here Bruce Jr 6 minutes is enough time for suspensions to loosen up Point me to a JBL or Altec bulletin on " break in*. Break in is real. As long as you take the time to use your ears and that thing between them. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the real Duke Spinner Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 26 minutes ago, Shakeydeal said: Break in is real. As long as you take the time to use your ears and that thing between them. You are acclimating to the presentation 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakeydeal Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 33 minutes ago, the real Duke Spinner said: You are acclimating to the presentation Explain this one. New speakers don’t sound good. Leave them in a room playing 24/7 for weeks. During this time they aren’t listened to. Come back after several hundred hours and they sound very different. How did you acclimate to the speakers if you weren’t even in the same room all this time? This isn’t a hypothetical, it happened to me with Von Schweikert speakers in the mid 90s. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 3 hours ago, the real Duke Spinner said: 6 minutes is enough time for suspensions to loosen up that's correct for rock concerts , crews break-in woofers in 5-6 minutes...... at full power 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babadono Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 expectation bias..it IS a real thing..not saying it happened to you but it DOES happen. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babadono Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 we had a company wide product improvement program at an Aerospace co. that I worked at back in the day. CMI they called it. Continuous Measurable Improvement. My friends and I there called it Can't Measure It. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakeydeal Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 1 hour ago, OO1 said: that's correct for rock concerts , crews break-in woofers in 5-6 minutes...... at full power How cute. You think anyone setting up sound reinforcement for a rock concert cares about or knows about speaker break in? Ridiculous premise that is not remotely relevant. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 sure they do , they dont call em pros for nothing , big difference vs an amateur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babadono Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 they callz'em pros cuz they get paid money.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 big money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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