Allan Songer Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 Here is my nomination. Just listened to this one last night for about the 1000th time in the last 25 years and even though it's as familiar as my own skin this LP still blows my mind. I can't think of a more impressive debut album--Joe Henderson arrived on the scene pretty much fully developed and BURSTING with creativity and energy--influenced by both Rollins and Coltrane for sure, but distinct.Henderson and Kenny Dorham had been fronting a working quintet in the months leading up to this session and the familiarity shows. The compostions (including the original versions of Dorham's "Blue Bossa" and Henderson's "Recorda Me") are superb, the soloing incredible (McCoy Tyner is SUPERB)and the recording is one of RVG's best. If you don't own this album, it's available for about $11 just about everywhere on CD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxg Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 That's a good question Allan - hmmmm ..... needs some thought. Not being a Jazz fan I would probably go for Tracy Chapman - which I still listen to often. Was Jennifer Warnes Famous Blue Raincoat her debut? I love that album. Mike Oldfield's Tubular Bells? God I have no idea what was, and wasnt, a debut - my brain is fried. Needs more thought that I thought. I'll come back to this TTFN! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Hardy Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 "Famous Blue Raincoat"? Good stuff, but not even close to her debut. Take a look at her bio at allmusic.com. My knee-jerk reaction to best debut album would be Crack the Sky's eponymous album (recently reissued on CD with bonus tracks). Runner up? Probably Dire Straits (also self titled. Coincidence? I think not...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxg Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 Thanks for the heads up on that one Mark - boy was I a million miles away!! Well you live and learn I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3dzapper Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 I'd like to nominate: Santana Chicago Transit Authority (same name) The Allman Brothers Led Zeplin Traffic Rick Edited with assistance of HeavyDistortion who corrected my poor memory. BTW I was going to put in Hendrix too. Good choice HD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garymd Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 Good selection Rick. There are too many to name. Many groups best lps were their first. If you want commercial successes, how about Boston? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyDistortion Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 Some of my favorite debuts are: King Crimson - "In The Court Of The Crimson King" Jimi Hendrix Experience - "Are You Experienced?" Jeff Beck - "Truth" Led Zeppelin - "Led Zeppelin" Traffic - "Mr. Fantasy" Dave Mason - "Alone Together" Family - "Music In A Doll's House" -------------------------------------------------------- Rick, By the way, "Abraxas" was Santana's 2nd release, "Live At The Fillmore" was The Allman Brothers' 3rd release, and "John Barleycorn" was Traffic's 4th release. Ed Hurdle HeavyDistortion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Hardy Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 I apologize in advance for being the self-appointed Debut Police, but let's be careful out there, OK? According to Allmusic: Traffic's debut was Mr. Fantasy in 1967. http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&uid=UIDMISS70311130753043123&sql=A0vfrxqugldse and Santana's first album, interestingly, was Santana (1969). http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&uid=UIDMISS70311130753043123&sql=Ajbfixqt5ldje Chicago Transit Authority is a good candidate! I'll defer comment on Led Zepplin <1> :-) Just as a sort of strawman, would anyone cast a vote for the Beatles' famous first album (released in the US on VeeJay records), that was recorded in almost real time? The one with I Saw Her Standing There, etc. The VeeJay release was called "Introducing the Beatles". I think Capitol later released it as The Early Beatles, and only much later, in complete form, as Please, Please Me, which was its original identity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShapeShifter Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 I nominate George Benson's 1964 debut album - The New Boss Guitar of George Benson. He was in his early twenties, but had already established himself as a respected sideman. Here he's joined by Jack McDuff's crew and displays the trademark sound he's known for today. This release produced three well acknowledged hits; Shadow Dancers, Will you still be mine? & Rock-A-Bye. Also noteable is that McDuff plays piano on the "Easy Living" track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klipschfoot Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 Mr. Fantasy was Traffic's debut album. I read somewhere that Winwood could have played all instrument tracks himself on his albums if he so chose. Talented musician. edit: Doh! someone already posted this info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Hardy Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 IIRC Steve Winwood did indeed play all the instruments on one or more of his later solo albums (e.g., Arc of a Diver). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyDistortion Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 "IIRC Steve Winwood did indeed play all the instruments on one or more of his later solo albums (e.g., Arc of a Diver)." Mark, You are correct, Steve Winwood does play all of the instruments on "Arc Of A Diver". Also, he plays most of the instruments on Traffic's "John Barleycorn", which was intended to be his first solo LP, until late in the recording sessions, at which time he brought in Jim Capaldi and Chris Wood, which turned it into a Traffic release. Ed Hurdle HeavyDistortion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben. Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 How 'bout "Bright Size Life" by Pat Metheny. It featured Jaco Pastorius and Bob Moses. I might take some crap for this but, "Vs." by Pearl Jam had quite an impact as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 ---------------- On 11/20/2003 9:44:27 AM Allan Songer wrote: Here is my nomination. Just listened to this one last night for about the 1000th time in the last 25 years and even though it's as familiar as my own skin this LP still blows my mind. I can't think of a more impressive debut album--Joe Henderson arrived on the scene pretty much fully developed and BURSTING with creativity and energy--influenced by both Rollins and Coltrane for sure, but distinct.Henderson and Kenny Dorham had been fronting a working quintet in the months leading up to this session and the familiarity shows. The compostions (including the original versions of Dorham's "Blue Bossa" and Henderson's "Recorda Me") are superb, the soloing incredible (McCoy Tyner is SUPERB)and the recording is one of RVG's best. If you don't own this album, it's available for about $11 just about everywhere on CD. ---------------- How bout Carol King Tapestry Cat Stevens Tea for The Tillerman Cream Cream Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyDistortion Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 "How bout Carol King Tapestry Cat Stevens Tea for The Tillerman Cream Cream" I don't mean to keep being a pain, but here are a few more corrections: Carole King's 1st release was "Writer", "Tapestry" was her 2nd; "Matthew And Son" was Cat Stevens' 1st LP, and "Tea For The Tillerman" was his 4th, and 2nd on A&M, just after "Mona Bone Jakon". Also, Cream's debut LP was entitled "Fresh Cream". Ed Hurdle HeavyDistortion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3dzapper Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 HD, We gotta change your handle to "Release Police"! Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougdrake Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 Anyone here buy any music made since 1990? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Songer Posted November 20, 2003 Author Share Posted November 20, 2003 I didn't think this was about the best debut album since 1990, but if you wan't my opinion: James Carter, "On the Set" 1993 Like Henderson 30 years previous, Carter burst onto the scene with his own sound, part Gene Ammons, part Coltrane, part David Murray, but UNIQUE. Killer album--don't know if it is still in print . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hwatkins Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 Ok - I'll try to go by decade: (I won't put in Album/CD names to keep the debut police at bay) 60s - Hendrix 70s - Patrick Moraz and/or Tommy Bolin 80s - Collective Soul 90s - Ben Harper (not sure his debut was in 90s, but close) 00s - Luce (a wonderful group of young men from San Francisco) There is my small list - I can be swayed by other's lists - my memory suffers due to age and a well spent youth... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3dzapper Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 "Anyone here buy any music made since 1990?" Has anyone made any music since 1990? Pop today is back scratched rap crap. The only good new stuff are Broadway shows and on the "new" country genere. (And real men don't do Broadway shows.) Everything else is rerelease, remix or recover. They wonder why music industry sales are down. The only new releases I've bought in years are by the likes of Alan Jackson and Garth. Rick Edit: Oh yea, I bought a Norah Jones DVD a few months back. It's still in the plastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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