music guy Posted January 17, 2004 Share Posted January 17, 2004 Since I bought my RF 35's on Dec. 29th, I have been reading and learning from this forum. I have heard the term, speaker break in. What is it? I think I my speakers are "breaking in". They seem so much warmer, richer than before. I love em! I have em bi-wired with Monster Z2 wires. Play mostly CD'S through my Denon DCM 380 and a Denon DRA 685 receiver. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted January 17, 2004 Share Posted January 17, 2004 Most of us here have come to relate the phenomena to the capacitors in the crossover. They are interesting devices, and appear to constrict the sound somewhat until some voltage has been put through them for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobile homeless Posted January 17, 2004 Share Posted January 17, 2004 actually, I think it's just as much the drivers as well... surrounds etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fini Posted January 17, 2004 Share Posted January 17, 2004 ---------------- On 1/17/2004 2:19:29 AM music guy wrote: They seem so much warmer, richer than before. I love em! Bob ---------------- They probably had been stored in a cold warehouse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klipsch RF7 Posted January 17, 2004 Share Posted January 17, 2004 Hi Bob This is what i have been doing for the past 3 days and it has worked wonders, LeoK suggested blasting pink noise through the speakers for 8-10 hours a day for a few days and that breaks them in fully instead of taking months and months of normal listening. I downloaded program called Adobe Audition for free off the internet on Adobe's website and inside the program you can edit music and what not, you can select diffrent filters and effects. I just went in and chose Pink noise and set the intensity and hit loop play and set my reciever to blast it continously when i left in the morning at work and turned it off when i got home 10 hours later. You can set the tuner between channels and get that static which is pink noise and that will work also if your sound card isnt hooked to your reciever like mine is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFE Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 I never beleived in speaker break-ins till recently. I am having RF 82's and it sounded harsh at higher dbl's. After almost one month use i suddenly perceived a drastic change in the quality of sound. i would put it as a kind of sound reduction similar to the Dolby thing with superb highs and lows, though i was using Mp3's (PCM). Earlier, i couldnt even raise the volume above -16db due to ear piercing sounds and had to cut down upto -26db to feel good to the ears and ofcourse with poor bass. But now i could start with -6 to -4db range. At first i thought my ears got break in! and was so astonished that i even inspected all speakers whether all of 'em are still working. Above -3 db still sounds harsh but i hope it will also change if this can happen. [] 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFE Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 Sorry for multiple posts! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFE Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 no option to delete this duplicate posted stuff here. sorry again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldenough Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 It's all in the mind....seriously.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fini Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 Turns out I've been playing pink noise through my speakers since this post first appeared in '04. I think I may be ready for some music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldenough Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 Go for it Fini slap on some Celine Dion and live life to the fullest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpm Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 My LaScalas are definitely warmer and much better sounding after 100's of hours than when new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldenough Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 My LaScalas are definitely warmer and much better sounding after 100's of hours than when new. It's all in the mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpm Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 I think not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldbuckster Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 The mind is a terrible thing to waste ....................... EH !!!!!!!!!! I think they change some with first uses, but can you really tell a difference? What tastes better Chocolate or white Chocolate ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coytee Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 I'll jump in on this fresh post with my typical relevance [:^)] I heard a conversation with RoyBoy one day regarding this. If memory serves me, I think he said he runs a certain number of volts through his speakers (pink noise??) for maybe an hour and he considers them broken in. It might have been 3 hours but the main point was, it didn't take 100 hours to break in if you did it his way. I guess if you put .0000003827409237629 volts through the speaker, it might take 100 hours longer than if you used more power up front? (and how do people time how many hours they log on their speakers? I know my Jubilees only have 945.023827639262937640 hours on them because I always use a stopwatch []) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 It's all in the mind....seriously.. No, it's not. I used to have RC-7's (I twirled the horns and had them on stands) -- and I experienced exactly what he's describing while I was sitting in front of the speakers listening to a CD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arky Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 Ah, the old turning the RC-7 horn days..that was a great spkr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groomlakearea51 Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 I've noticed it before on a pair of recapped Cornwalls. After a few days, they sounded different, better, not as harsh, etc. The caps were/ are Sonicaps. Never occurred again. Same thing with a pair of Heresys before recapping (they had the original Aerovox "cans"). When I got them, they sounded really terrible for about the first 24 hours. I just left them on all day in the workshop with a small FM radio providing some input voltage, and when I went back the next day, they sounded ok. I changed the caps anyways, so.... the question is why would this occur. In the case of the Heresy's it was not in my mind, it was really evident. Is there something about caps and how they are made? Materials? Designs? Amount of voltage initially applied when new? Or... possibly some caps in question are actually defective in some way that was not detected when manufactured, and display this characteristic when having sat for a while (say a weeks or months) before use? Just a thought. Maybe BEC has some insight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEC Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 Marshall said "Just a thought. Maybe BEC has some insight?" I do, but you may not want to hear it. It is all in the mind. To elaborate, new good caps have the right value of capacitance and very low ESR. ESR is a measurement of all the bad characteristics of a cap, that is, all the things that a cap can do other than just contribute capacitance to the circuit. If we have a cap that has the correct value of capacitance and ESR so low as to be essentially unmeasurable we have a good cap. Any change in anything at all in that cap would send it in the direction of being a bad cap. Let's hope all good high quality caps stay exactly as they are when new for many years. If they don't stay the way they were when new for many years, they are bad caps. Bob Crites Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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