m00n Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meuge Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 This is an utter scam. The gun looks real... but it doesn't cast a shadow and the lighting does not correspond to the forest in tint, intensity or direction. I think it's a pic of a real gatling gun, probably from a Cobra gunship, and someone photoshopped it and is trying to pass it off as a paintball gun. 48 balls/barrel/second would shear ANY painball while it was still within the barrel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m00n Posted September 10, 2004 Author Share Posted September 10, 2004 Looks legit to me. I could be wrong though. http://www.havocpaintball.com/mini_gun.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picky Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 It's a GE M134 7.62 MM (.223 NATO) Mini gun. The paintballs will not function traveling through the ammo belt-path because the path is too wide to align them at the end. If you look close, you can even see the brass from the ammo cartridges in the belt path! Paintballs are .43" to .69" in diameter and would not even fit through the barrels. It's a fake in my opinion. A rather primitive one at that. I was an aircraft weapons specialist in the Navy (Aviation Ordnanceman). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvel Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 I would agree that it is probably fake, but the rest of the havoc site has legit paintball guns and supplies. Be nice to see someone with it and loading it up, etc. Marvel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m00n Posted September 10, 2004 Author Share Posted September 10, 2004 It very well could be fake, I really have no clue. I've only played paintball once. It would seem like a miracle to keep the paintballs from bursting inside the gun. However, can you imagine how bad it would be to get hit by that thing if indeed it does work as claimed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrWho Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 There's a whole league of professional paintballing that uses guns like that...and 48 balls per second doesn't sound too fast. I've seen people empty entire hoppers in a few seconds using semi-auto guns (i think a hopper holds around 100 balls) There is also the realm of military training where they use paintballs as well. I'm not sure how they do it, but they try to make every gun work as close as possible to the real thing...which means insanely fast shooting rates. I also do not think this picture is photoshopped because the borders between the gun and the scenery are too good. There are shadows under the belt clip as well as behind the rifle barrel. There are even small bits of grass and leaves in front of parts of the gun. The shadows and light reflections line up with the rest of the background and the way the parts of the gun are tipping line up perfectly with the ground around it. Granted, the picture still has that fake look to it, but that can be artributed to a cheap digital camera and the colors of the flat brushed metal (or whatever the surface is...it's hard for cameras to pick up). My brother is a professional photographer and uses photoshop extensively. You can see some of his work here: http://sk1ppy16.deviantart.com/ If you want, I can have him take a look, but I'm pretty sure it's not photoshopped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-MAN Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 Looks like a movie prop to me... The photo also looks ok and I see no visable signs of alteration, but with digital-done-right, there are no visable signs of alteration anyway! Where's Arnold? He'd know! DM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neomartic Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 pic looks fine to me too. man, i'd be scared with that thing pointed at me! especially close range, ouch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpg Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 That is pretty evil... I used to play paintball all the time with friends from school... but then I got a gf and stopped spending my money on my gun/paint. It was really fun, though, and if it didn't cost so much, I'd go back to it in a second. Something like that could tear a person up... that shouldn't be allowed. heh One of my friends got lit up by a guy with an automatic... 9 shots in one burst and all of them hit him. Needless to say... he was incredibly mad... My gun runs full auto and will empty my 200 round hopper in less than 30 seconds easy. Real paint waster... but definitely fun to scare the little kiddies. I keep trying to get my dad out there paintballing... he'd like it if he went... but he's afraid all us young folk would shoot him up as opposed to going for each other... I highly recommend it to anyone. Very good adrenaline rush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hooting_monkey Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 Being a tourney player and a spectator, 48 balls per second is an unacheiveable rate of fire. The current top speed of an Angel IR series, which is pretty much the best of the best, can, at full auto with quality balls, acheive 12 balls per second. This itself is and incredible rate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMcGoo Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 picky, The 7.62 NATO=.308 cal.; 5.56MM=.223 cal. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrWho Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 ---------------- On 9/10/2004 1:05:58 PM hooting_monkey wrote: Being a tourney player and a spectator, 48 balls per second is an unacheiveable rate of fire. The current top speed of an Angel IR series, which is pretty much the best of the best, can, at full auto with quality balls, acheive 12 balls per second. This itself is and incredible rate. ---------------- The angel is a handheld gun and correct me if I'm wrong, the electronic ball feeders for those have direct contact with the paintballs. The advantage of the belt clip is that the feeding mechanism doesn't actually touch the paintball and thus can start and stop faster; which means getting into the barrel faster, which means a faster rate of fire. I'm sure there's other tricks that can be done to also increase the rate as well. FWIW I'm not a paintball expert by any means, but I do find it a hobby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddy Dee Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 m00n, Thanks for posting this. Well, it is a piece of gear with intimidating looks for sure. My money is on the "it's a gag" side, and it is a good one. For the price of 7,500 GBPounds, there aren't just alot of folks that will be able to call the hand of the jokers. GBP to USD is 1.8 or $13,500. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty Favog Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 ---------------- On 9/10/2004 12:45:10 AM meuge wrote: This is an utter scam. The gun looks real... but it doesn't cast a shadow and the lighting does not correspond to the forest in tint, intensity or direction. ---------------- You worked on the Warren Commission, right?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvel Posted September 11, 2004 Share Posted September 11, 2004 "You worked on the Warren Commission, right?? " LOL Tom. BTW, how's the new toy? Marvel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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