joetubeman Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 As I posted last night in another thread, I just got my first pair of Khorns. I believe that they are 62's. They are pretty ugly and will need lots of work. My plan is to dress them up with veneer. I have a few questions that I hope you experts can answer for me. Are they indeed 62's? Serial numbers are 1732 and 1733. They look like they have extra, non stock cabinet material added.The wood is chip board and the overall quality is not the same as the rest of the cabinet. Can someone confirm this? I have a series of pictures that I will post with many different shots. Thanks for your help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frzninvt Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 Joe you have to use the attach file feature so that we can view the photo. If there are no Alpha characters in the S/N it is likely that they are older than 1962. 1962 was the first year Klipsch started using the Alpha characters in the S/N's to indicate year of manufacture so they should have an "A" in the S/N if they are from 1962 if they don't then they are older. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joetubeman Posted March 31, 2005 Author Share Posted March 31, 2005 Just removed the added cloth covering the original owner put on.Here is a shot of the extra cabinet work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joetubeman Posted March 31, 2005 Author Share Posted March 31, 2005 Here is a front shot. I'm pretty sure that the top and the added back pieces are not original. I guess that these started life as the utility cabinets. Unless I hear otherwise, I'm going to rip the extra pieces off. I'm now just noticing that one of the woofers is not working properly. I get some output but is sputters. If I crank the volume I get more sound but I also hear a buzzing from the driver. It's not totally fried, anyway to repair this? Looks like it will be a tough job to secure a new driver in. Aside from this they sound great!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTLongo Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 Wow, looking at those pics and thinking of the work ahead, absolutely no disrespect intended but I'm glad I bought my '03's new. That old midrange horn does look luscious, though. The new (plastic) midrange horns are smaller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTLongo Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 Further to my previous, here is a pic of the '03 Klipschorn midrange horn. The tweeter horn is above. (Sorry for the less-than-great pic quality.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joetubeman Posted March 31, 2005 Author Share Posted March 31, 2005 No disrespect taken. I know that I have a lot of work ahead of me. In a perverse way I really like these types of projects. The main thing will be removing the 4000!!!!!!!!!! staples that were used to attach the cloth. I'm one of those types who wants to get to the veneering ASAP. This woofer problem is the type of thing that I hate dealing with. The driver is a K33J. A Jensen driver, thanks Frzninvt, I assume a alnico magnet. The new ones from Klipsch are probably ceramic, right? Any mismatch with using two different types of drives? I guess I'll probably start searching Ebay. I really like these old things and would like to keep it original if possible. How does one negotiate around the basket and magnet to screw in the screws on the far side of the driver? Looks like that will be difficult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frzninvt Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 Unfortunately, with the K-33J my understanding is that they were custom built for Klipsch by Jensen and differ from the Jensen P15LL which is similar to the K-33J. Yes it is alnico, not sure if you might be able to get it reconed, I doubt that the parts needed are available but perhaps they are. Your best bet may be to just get two new K-33E's and replace them both at the same time. I certainly understand wanting to keep them vintage though. Perhaps a forum member may have a single K-33J that they would be willing to sell you, or recommend a place that can properly recone it. I would recone both if you find a place that can do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frzninvt Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 Double post - sorry. I can't see your photos with my browser here at work, I wish I could. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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lynnm Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 I think those are from the mid 1950s based on the style of decoration added by the original owner and the type of midhorn and the tweeter placement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klipsch Employees Trey Cannon Posted March 31, 2005 Klipsch Employees Share Posted March 31, 2005 Finding a "J" woofer will be a chore...New woofers would be the way to go... and the network should not have to change. If you want to stop now, I will take thoes ulgy guys off your hands... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joetubeman Posted March 31, 2005 Author Share Posted March 31, 2005 Thanks for all the replies, especially the tip on Orange County. I've done a little searching in between taking these things apart. According to the info that I have found, these could be from 1948-1961. How's that for narrowing it down! This info indicates that a serial number should be hammer stamped into the tailboard, woofer door or the woofer chamber. I cannot see anything on the tail board or access door. I sealed the woofer door up after I took pictures so maybe it is there. Here is another picture of the back of the speaker without the extra stuff. I have more pictures, but if you guys are getting sick of seeing them, just say the word. I want to post more once I get the veneer applied. This will take me a while as I leave town on business in a few days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 Your'e doing good work Joe! What a find on those old babies- lucky man. Now don't screw up the veneer job! Lots of posts around here on that. Use SEARCH and look for Greg928 or Jorgen's work. THey are masters Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klipsch Employees Trey Cannon Posted March 31, 2005 Klipsch Employees Share Posted March 31, 2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodger Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 ---------------- On 3/31/2005 3:59:26 PM Trey Cannon wrote: Finding a "J" woofer will be a chore...New woofers would be the way to go... and the network should not have to change. If you want to stop now, I will take thoes ulgy guys off your hands... ---------------- Trey: Your giving nature never ceases to amaze me. I have an idea: If anyone can help him out keeping the alnicos if the one lead doesn't work, would you please contact him? It can be a community project. dodger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverSport Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 you too dodger...I love this place and those that are so willing to help...makes the hobby experience that much sweeter! joetubeman: It will be wonderful to hear how these sing once you get them up and running! Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3dzapper Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 Joe, Is there a date on the sticker on the squaker horn? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khorn58 Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 Joetubeman, Congrats on your khoprn score. looks like they are 61 maybe 62 going by your serial N0. I have 5 khorns dating from 51 to 60 and your numbers are higher than my 60. I like the look of the utilty khorn with out trim to me they are cool looking seeing the horns and crossover . Unfinshed utily are fast becoming a rare thing as most were painted of vaneared years ago.Plus stock khorns will always be worth more than redone ones as far as collecter value go. For evrey 20 model b or c I only see one d for sale. I have seen 5 jensen k33j drivers like yours for sale on ebay in the past year. to me this is one of the best drivers Klipsch ever used.I think the early khorn wood mid is the best one they ever had the sound is large and smooth. good luck with your horns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 Yes to what 58 said, I have the K33J woofers in my 63 Cornwalls and the Jensen units are superb! Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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