knorman Posted May 19, 2005 Share Posted May 19, 2005 I paid full price and received no discount nor any free goods of any kind. I am not affiliated with Dean in any way. My first impression(right out of the box) is HOLY SH#T why didn't I do this months ago. This is no small difference. Transparency better: yes Detail better: yes Bass deeper: yes Bass tighter: yes Imaging better: yes soundstage better: yes Highs are liquid mids are sweet. quieter,quicker,more slam,easier to listen at high levels and more details at low levels. Voices are clearer and easier to understand. Placement of instruments is better and background is dead quite. And best of all the ringing at HF is totally gone. This mod brings these speakers to a whole new level of clarity which puts them in another class from stock rf-7's. I will break them in over the next 6 days and report back, but I cannot imagine them getting much better. I said in my earlier post that I was trying to find a reason to keep them and I have found that reason. These speakers are now what my ears wanted to hear. Do not hesitate to do this mod. You will say the same thing I did. What took me so long. Dean was a pleasure to deal with, the quality of workmanship is excellent and his service was awesome. I hope I have even better news next week after burnin. BTW, I tested the mod with Chris Botti, Pink Floyd, Pat Metheny, and Bocelli. They all were equally impressive. I will gladly answer any questions you might have. Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted May 19, 2005 Share Posted May 19, 2005 That's great, I'm glad you're happy. You can thank Leo (Leok), who is the person who came up with the little resistor mod for the horn -- I just decided to run with it after trying it myself. I once tried the resistor mod without upgrading the caps, and though it contributed more than I expected, I could easily tell it was only half way there. Break in: I once had a conversation with Richard Marsh from Reliable Capacitor about this, and he told me 10 hours is about it. He claims the difference is "measurable", but I have no idea with what or how he measured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knorman Posted May 19, 2005 Author Share Posted May 19, 2005 I will let you know if I hear a difference after 10 hours. I will also let them go for a few more to see what happens. Thanks for the advice. Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMcGoo Posted May 19, 2005 Share Posted May 19, 2005 There are many skeptics that do not believe that such a simple modification can produce these results. Well, let them be happy with what they have. The DeanG mods had much the same effect on my RF-7s. I cannot remember anyone that has installed the mod that has not reported about the same result. We all must be crazy; mass hysteria!!! Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JewishAMerPrince Posted May 19, 2005 Share Posted May 19, 2005 I've had my Dean G Modded X-overs in about two weeks now and I still am marveling at the difference. Certain highs like small cymbal, bell and triangle notes just seem to float in mid air. I've all but abandoned my lovely ChorusII and Cambridge Audio 2 channel system in my library in favor of listening to 2 channel on my theater setup with the modified RF7s. I never knew how good my Rotel 1098 really is for 2 channel. I've ordered a much high(er) end CD player because I think that the one I currently have (Sony 300 disk changer) "stifels" what the RF7s can really do. There definitly was a break in period, but there wasn't anywhere near as dramatic a change after break-in as some would lead you to believe. Jerry R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjgeraci Posted May 20, 2005 Share Posted May 20, 2005 Told ya. Congrats - glad you like Dean's mod. It truly takes the RF-7s to another level and was the reason I kept my RF-7s after acquiring some nice Heritage. Dean, nice job as always. Carl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frzninvt Posted May 20, 2005 Share Posted May 20, 2005 Look at the difference that it makes on a recently made speaker, just imagine what it did for my 43 year old Cornwalls! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJkizak Posted May 20, 2005 Share Posted May 20, 2005 Like I said before the best thing that ever happened to my 1965 Cornwall was installing the new Dean crossover. JJK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r.cherry Posted May 20, 2005 Share Posted May 20, 2005 do people do similar mods to forte's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frzninvt Posted May 21, 2005 Share Posted May 21, 2005 Yes! Contact Chris Munson (aka Popbumper) he has custom made PCB's that he uses to update the Forte' network. The Forte' is an excellent speaker and I am certain his update will bring them to a new level of performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audible Nectar Posted May 21, 2005 Share Posted May 21, 2005 One of my favorite Dean lines: "CROSSOVERS ARE EVIL" I didn't really understand the depth of his convictions until I heard his results. And he does get tangible results! It seems like a broken record, but these parts upgrades really do make a difference. I see many people who get nice, big Klipsch speakers, then upgrade cd player, amp, preamp, cables, and thier AC power supply........and run them with stock crossovers. Before one begins upgrading the electronics, upgrade the crossovers with better parts. The results are better than most any component upgrade.....and will allow you to get the most of your current gear - and the most from your other upgrades too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Taylor Posted May 21, 2005 Share Posted May 21, 2005 Sounds to me that Dean is a hero of the crossover world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicholtl Posted May 21, 2005 Share Posted May 21, 2005 ---------------- On 5/21/2005 11:39:25 AM Randy Taylor wrote: Sounds to me that Dean is a hero of the crossover world. ---------------- What? Who's crossed over to The Dark Side?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freak Nasty Posted May 21, 2005 Share Posted May 21, 2005 These Crossovers, are they internal or external? How do we install them to the RF 7's?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicholtl Posted May 22, 2005 Share Posted May 22, 2005 ---------------- On 5/21/2005 10:51:10 PM Freak Nasty wrote: These Crossovers, are they internal or external? ---------------- Internal. ---------------- How do we install them to the RF 7's?? ---------------- That's what I wanna know too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knorman Posted May 22, 2005 Author Share Posted May 22, 2005 good mornings fellows, the burnin is complete. the change is not so dramatic as the fresh installation of the crossovers, but it is still noticable. the bass just seems to continue to deepen and tighten. i cannot say enough about this mod. EVEN my wife noticed a hugh difference, i will say that again. EVEN MY WIFE NOTICED. i hear more from the same cd's each time i play it and just enjoy it more and more. i know this seems over the top, but i am really happy with this mod and feel others would be also. for those who are worried by the install STOP IT. the install can be done by a child(even me) it is a very simple affair and really helps you understand the speakers better. do yourself a favor and do the mod. it is on the same level as upgrading your pre and amp for alot less. thanks dean for making my music enjoyable again. regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted May 22, 2005 Share Posted May 22, 2005 Yowza, I'm no "hero", save that designation for the guys who spend endless hours measuring, designing, and tweaking. I'm just a solder slinger with a decent set of ears, but probably no better or worse than anyone else out here. "The burnin is complete. the change is not so dramatic as the fresh installation of the crossovers, but it is still noticable." After 10 hours or so, any remaining "burn-in" had more to do with your ears/brain adjusting to the sound. As you settle in with the improvement, your auditory memory remembers less and less of what you moved away from. If you want to recreate the "dramatic change" effect, drop the stock networks back in. "...EVEN MY WIFE NOTICED..." Most women have better high frequency hearing than men, so that shouldn't be so surprising. My wife often notices, and makes comments about things that I can't even hear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrot Posted May 22, 2005 Share Posted May 22, 2005 ---------------- On 5/22/2005 3:24:58 PM DeanG wrote: Yowza, I'm no "hero" ---------------- Heroes are always modest, too. When's Klipsch gonna hire you, Dean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Taylor Posted May 22, 2005 Share Posted May 22, 2005 Rumor has it that Dean is going to be offered a long term contract to replace some guy named Paul that left klipsch in the last year or so, I don't know how much of this is true, it's just what I heard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freak Nasty Posted May 22, 2005 Share Posted May 22, 2005 DeanG do you send your crossovers overseas?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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