colterphoto1 Posted May 21, 2005 Share Posted May 21, 2005 okay okay Paul, how bout YOUR top 10 then? and if Artto's listening in how bout HIS top 10? Like our gentle poster, I've dabbled in some Monk, Miles, Coltrane, but feel that it's time to get truly educated about Jazz, so let's please stop the name calling and talk about the MUSIC please! can't we all just get along? Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garymd Posted May 21, 2005 Share Posted May 21, 2005 My ten essentials may have looked something like this at different points over the past couple years (in no particular order): Duke Pearson, Wahoo Lee Morgan, Cornbread Art Pepper, Art Pepper + 11 Grant Green, Idle Moments Sonny Rollins, Live At The Music Inn (Teddy Edwards with Joe Castro on side 2) John Coltrane, Blue Train Tina Brooks, True Blue Jimmy Smith, The Sermon Sonny Criss, This Is Criss Benny Golson, Groovin' With Golson About 200 honorable mentions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuisis Posted May 21, 2005 Share Posted May 21, 2005 Not a dick. Gary have fun at your graduation parties. When your daughter comes up here we will have to meet out that way somewhere. Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garymd Posted May 21, 2005 Share Posted May 21, 2005 Thanks Tom. One down, one to go! Today was great. My daughter switched schools and is now going to DeSales University. Quite a bit farther from you I assume. We'll make it work somehow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted May 21, 2005 Share Posted May 21, 2005 ---------------- On 5/21/2005 9:51:06 PM kuisis wrote: You might want to look into the Mosaic Box sets. They are more expensive, but have a good combination, just my opinion. For the record I like Blanton's better than even Bookers. The Grant Green Mosaic is excellent. ---------------- The 1991 Grant Green Mosaic set (out of print now) is great if you can find it. The original question had to do with essential LPs, as for essential non-essentials also check out the Andrew Hill, Duke Pearson, Grachan Moncur III Mosaic Select 3-CD box sets offered at $39 before they are sold out, the excellent Mosaic Art Pepper box set mentioned above is the same price! Grachan and Jackie McLean in '67 free jazzing on Saturday & Sunday. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuisis Posted May 21, 2005 Share Posted May 21, 2005 Gary I have no idea where that school is. I guess not in PA. I will be back to MD soon however. Coda I had the good fortune to buy a bunch of box sets for next to nothing, from a friend. He's selling them to me because he is getting older and not listening to much music anymore. I am going to buy some of those 3 disc sets soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3dzapper Posted May 21, 2005 Share Posted May 21, 2005 If you ever see the six album set,"the Smthsonian Collection of Classic Jazz" from 1973, in a used record shop or thrift store, buy it. Something for and from everyone. Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garymd Posted May 22, 2005 Share Posted May 22, 2005 ---------------- On 5/21/2005 11:37:14 PM 3dzapper wrote: If you ever see the six album set,"the Smthsonian Collection of Classic Jazz" from 1973, in a used record shop or thrift store, buy it. Something for and from everyone. Rick ---------------- I happen to have a spare NM copy for anyone interested. Includes book. $20 plus shipping. I paid a bit more. Tom, DeSales is in PA but closer to Philly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben. Posted May 22, 2005 Share Posted May 22, 2005 Paul, you really are pathetic. Take another break from this place and get some new material. As to the original question, there's quite a difference between a "beginners' essentials" list, and a "pack your bags we're moving to Nairobi" list... My list for Nairobi at the moment: Belongings Jan Garbarek/Keith Jarrett/Palle Danielson/Jon Christensen On Broadway, vol III Paul Motian Quintet (w/ Bill Frisell, Charlie Haden, Joe Lovano, and Lee Konitz) Mingus Joni Mitchell (w/ Jaco Pastorius) Organ Grinder's Swing The Incredible Jimmy Smith Bluesnik Jackie McLean In A Silent Way Miles Davis Still Life (Talking) Pat Metheny Group Dream of You Helen Merrill Sinatra at the Sands Frank Sinatra (w/ the Basie band and Quincy Jones arr.) The Power of Three Michel Petrucciani (w/ Jim Hall and Wayne Shorter) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Songer Posted May 23, 2005 Share Posted May 23, 2005 Just listened to "Dream of You" during my morning commute. Gil Evans at his best! Helen Merrill requested that Gil Evans arrange her second Emarcy LP when Evans was really not doing much--years had gone by since his groundbreaking days with the Thornhill band and the "Birth of the Cool" sessions with Miles. "Miles Ahead" was still over a year away. The album went way over budget and took a while to finish and "Dream of You" would up being released as Merrill's THIRD LP--the "With Strings" record actully came out before "Dream of You" by a few months even though it was recorded later. This is "modern" big band arranging at it's best and Merrill is in top form. You might be intestested in the SECOND Merrill/Evans LP from THIRTY YEARS later: Eleven of the twelve cuts are reworkings of the SAME tunes on "Dream of You." The only difference is that "Summertine" replaces "You're Lucky to Me." All of the arrangments are FRESH and very immaginative. This was Gil Evans' last great date and one of Merrill's best outings of the 1980's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxg Posted May 23, 2005 Share Posted May 23, 2005 Not able to produce a list of Jazz - although there is some I quite like. The nearest thing I would take with me to Nairobi (or wherever it was) would be Gershwin - who I cant decide whether to place in modern classical or elaborate jazz categories (my own categories that is). Allan, Gershwin fan at all? Could it be we have one composer in common? One more thing - the phrase "dont feed the troll" applies even if your answers are one word. Best not to respond at all. Paul, This is beneath you! Allan maybe easy to wind up but you have really made a mess of what could have been an informative thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Songer Posted May 23, 2005 Share Posted May 23, 2005 Who doesn't like Gershwin? SO YES WE HAVE SOMETHING IN COMMON!! http://www.content.loudeye.com/scripts/hurl.exe?clipid=001010401040006900&cid=600111 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben. Posted May 23, 2005 Share Posted May 23, 2005 ---------------- On 5/23/2005 9:38:46 AM maxg wrote: Paul, This is beneath you! Allan maybe easy to wind up but you have really made a mess of what could have been an informative thread. ---------------- No, Max. It's just about right for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxg Posted May 23, 2005 Share Posted May 23, 2005 ---------------- On 5/23/2005 9:51:41 AM Allan Songer wrote: Who doesn't like Gershwin? SO YES WE HAVE SOMETHING IN COMMON!! http://www.content.loudeye.com/scripts/hurl.exe?clipid=001010401040006900&cid=600111 ---------------- That was worth capitalizing - I never thought we would find common musical ground - just shows you!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted May 23, 2005 Share Posted May 23, 2005 oh, oh, oh, Gary pick me, pick me. Gary has msg. I'll take that box set off your hands if you still have it. Thanks, I've really got to sit down and get some serious listening done- soon! Started moving my LP boxes into storage shelves in hallway today, Gary has an entire 5' shelf devoted to what he's sent me- wooo hooo Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garymd Posted May 23, 2005 Share Posted May 23, 2005 Allan, My copy of Hellen Merrill, 1954 is one of my favorites. Is it the same LP to which you are referring? Michael, PM'd you back. I'll send it out as soon as I have time. Probably next week sometime. I have 60+ people coming to the house Saturday for a graduation party. Still lots to do!!! I haven't stopped working around the house in about 2 months. Can't wait for Sunday! I may sleep until noon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilbert Posted May 23, 2005 Share Posted May 23, 2005 ---------------- On 5/23/2005 9:38:46 AM maxg wrote: Paul, This is beneath you! Allan maybe easy to wind up but you have really made a mess of what could have been an informative thread. ---------------- Ditto that Maxi. As for jazz, Gary sent me a pretty cool jazz cd. Gary, my favorites are songs 1,3,5 and 8. I love the song titled "My Fathers Eyes", or at least that's what I think the title is. And just for the record, if and when I drink it's usually Becks, or Fat Tire, sometimes Corona in the summer. But when I'm with special friends, or just plain good company, then I may turn to Scotch, Blue label on the rocks or with mineral water. My taste buds got spoiled on the Blue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Songer Posted May 23, 2005 Share Posted May 23, 2005 This is the debut LP, Emarcy 36006 (the one you have with Clifford Brown): "Dream of You" is Emarcy 36078: "Dream of You" can be found on ebay in good condtion for about $25-$40 and less if you opt for a "2nd pressing" with the MERCURY labels. I sent my last spare copy to Ben a few months ago or I'd send you one! ALL of Helen Merrill's Emarcy records are worth seeking out. And you should also get her one Metro Jazz record too ("You've Got a Date with the Blues"). And then there's the records with Dick Katz in the 60's and 70's. Well, I could go on and on--I must have close to 50 Helen Merrill records and CDs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clipped and Shorn Posted May 23, 2005 Share Posted May 23, 2005 Cannonball Adderley - Somethin' Else Herbie Hancock - Maiden Voyage Clifford Brown - Study In Brown John Coltrane - Blue Train Cannonball Adderley - & Coltrane Wayne Shorter - Speak No Evil Horace Silver - Song For My Father Dizzy Gillespie - Sonny Side Up Miles Davis - Kind Of Blue John Coltrane - Giant Steps J. J. Johnson - The Eminent Volume 1 Eric Dolphy - Out To Lunch Oliver Nelson - Blues & The Abstract Truth Lee Morgan - The Sidewinder Hank Mobley - Soul Station Miles Davis - Milestones Wes Montgomery - Smokin At The Half Note Lee Morgan - Cornbread Larry Young - Unity Sonny Rollins - Saxophone Collossus John Coltrane - Mainstream 1958 Mccoy Tyner - The Real Mccoy John Coltrane - A Love Supreme Johnny Smith - Moonlight In Vermont Paul Chambers - Chambers Music June Christy - Something Cool Dizzy Gillespie - Jazz At Massey Hall Art Blakey - A Night At Birdland Vol. 1 Dizzy Gillespie - Duets Bill Evans - Undercurrent Gene Ammons - Boss Tenors Kenny Burrell - & John Coltrane Miles Davis - 'Round About Midnight Erroll Garner - Concert By The Sea Miles Davis - Relaxin' With Miles Wes Montgomery - Incredible Jazz Guitar Joe Henderson - Page One Frank Rosolino - Free For All Wes Montgomery - Full House Art Farmer - Modern Art Carl Fontana - 5 Star Ed Sonny Rollins - Tenor Madness Art Blakey - Moanin' Thelonious Monk - With John Coltrane Chick Corea - Now He Sings, Now He Sobs Freddie Hubbard - Open Sesame Bill Evans - Sunday At Village Vanguard Charlie Parker - Now's The Time Stan Getz - For Musician's Only Dizzy Gillespie - Groovin' High Dexter Gordon - Ballads Charlie Parker - Bird & Diz Joe Henderson - Lush Life, Strayhorn Music Freddie Hubbard - Red Clay Bill Evans - Waltz For Debby Kenny Dorham - Una Mas Lester Young - The President Plays W/The Oscar Peterson Trio Joe Henderson - In 'N Out John Coltrane - & Johnny Hartman Grant Green - Feelin' The Spirit Nancy Wilson - With Cannonball Add. Miles Davis - Cookin' Red Garland - Groovy Miles Davis - Steamin' With Miles Davis Johnny Griffin - A Blowin' Session Grant Green - Born To Be Blue John Coltrane - Ballads Johnny Hartman - I Just Dropped By To Say Hello Carl Fontana - The Great Fontana Grant Green - Idle Moments Art Blakey - Ugetsu Stanley Turrentine - Sugar Bill Evans - Intermodulation Art Blakey - A Night At Birdland Vol. 2 Freddie Hubbard - Hub Tones Hank Mobley - The Turnaround! Bud Powell - The Genius Of Lee Konitz - Subconscious-Lee Stan Getz - Stan Getz & Bill Evans Milt Jackson - Bags Meets Wes Jimmy Smith - Back At The Chicken Shack Sonny Rollins - Plus Four June Christy - The Misty Miss Christy Joe Henderson - Inner Urge Duke Ellington - Money Jungle Woody Herman - Keeper Of The Flame Chet Baker - Playboys Bud Powell - The Amazing - Vol 1 Oscar Peterson - Plays Count Basie Clifford Brown - Brown/Roach Inc. Stan Kenton - Duet Joe Henderson - Mode For Joe Horace Silver - Blowin' The Blues Away Clifford Brown - More Study In Brown Sonny Clark - Leapin' And Lopin' Blue Mitchell - The Thing To Do Johnny Griffin - Introducing Sonny Stitt - Constellation Slide Hampton - World Of Trombones Keith Jarrett - Standards Vol. 1 Miles Davis - Kind of Blue John Coltrane - Ascension John coltrane - My Favorite Things Duke Ellington - Okeh Ellington Miles Davis - The Birth of The Cool Thelonius Monk - Brilliant Corners John Coltrane - A Love Supreme Louis Armstrong - Complete "Hot Fives & Sevens" Billie Holiday - The Complete Billie Holiday on Verve 1945-1959 Ornette Coleman - The Shape of Jazz To Come John Coltrane - Giant Steps Ella Fitzgerald - 75th Birthday Celebration Sarah Vaughan - Sarah Vaughan with Clifford Brown Albert Ayler - Spiritual Unity Roscoe Mitchell Sextet - Sound The Modern Jazz Quartet - Lonely Woman Dave Brubeck Quartet - Time Out John Coltrane - Blue Train Bessie Smith - The Collection Lester Young - With the Oscar Peterson Trio Duke Ellington - The Blanton Webster Band Miles Davis - *****es Brew Charlie Parker - Yardbird Suite Count Basie - The Complete Atomic Basie Charles Mingus - Mingus Ah Um Dizzy Gilepsie - Shaw Nuff Art Blakey - Moanin' Sidney Bechet - Master Takes: Victor Sessions (1932-1943) Fletcher Henderson - A Study in Frustration/Thesaurus of Classic Jazz Benny Goodman - Sing, Sing, Sing Herbie Hancock - Maiden Voyage Sonny Rollins - Saxophone Colossus Clifford Brown - The Beginning & The End Sonny Rollins - Way Out West Max Roach - Percussion Bitter Sweet Herbie Hancock - Head Hunters . Sun Ra - Atlantis Fats Navarro & Tadd Dameron - The Complete Blue Note and Capitol Recordings Wardell Gray - Wardell Gray Memorial, Vol. 1 Sonny Stitt - Endgame Brilliance: Constellation & Tune-Up J.J. Johnson & Al Grey - Things Are Getting Better All the Time Coleman Hawkins - Body and Soul Dexter Gordon - Go! Phil Woods - Rights of Swing Clifford Brown/Max Roach - At Basin Street Horace Silver - Horace Silver and the Jazz Messengers Art Farmer with Benny Golson - Meet The Jazztet Jackie Mclean - Destination: Out! Freddie Hubbard - Ready For Freddie Hank Mobley - soul Station Donald Byrd - A New Perspective Wes Montgomery - The Incredible Jazz Guitar of... Lee Morgan - The Sidewinder Cannonball Adderly - Somethin' Else Grant Green - Idle Moments Joe Henderson - Page One Horace Silver - Song For My Father Bobby Timmons - This Here Is Bobby Timmons Jimmy Smith - Back at the Chicken Shack Gene Harris - Introducing The Three Sounds Jack McDuff - Brother Jack McDuff Live! Shirley Scott - Soul Shoutin' Peggy Lee - Capitol Collectors Series, Vol. 1: The Early Years Willis "Gator" Jackson - Legends of Acid Jazz George Benson - Beyond the Blue Horizon Scott Joplin - His Complete Works Jelly Roll Morton - 1923-1924 King Oliver - Great Original Performances 1923-1930 Kid Ory's Creole Jazz Band - Kid Ory's Creole Jazz Band (1954) Johnny Dodds - 1926 Artie Shaw - Big Bands Lester Young and the Oscar Peterson Trio - S/T Bud Powell - The Amazing Bud Powell, Vol. 1 Erroll Garner - Concert by the Sea Louis Armstrong and His All-Stars - Plays W.C. Handy Miles Davis - Round About Midnight Stan Getz - Sweet Rain Miles Davis - Miles Ahead Miles Davis - Miles Smiles Woody Shaw - Rosewood Sun Ra and his Arkestra - Live at Montreux Cecil Taylor - Unit Structures McCoy Tyner - Expansions Eric Dolphy - Out There John Coltrane - Live At The Village Vanguard Bill Evans - Sunday at the Village Vanguard Lionel Hampton - Hamp: The Legendary Decca Recordings Charlie Christian - The Genius of the Electric Guitar Earl Hines - Tour de Force Bix Beiderbecke - Bixology, 1924-30 Eubie Blake - Blues and Rags (1917-1921) Albert Ammons - The First Day Lennie Tristano - Descent into the Maelstrom Charles Mingus - Pithecanthropus Erectus Joe McPhee - Topology Don Cherry - Mu Mose Allison - The Sage of Tippo Butch Morris - Dust To Dust Kenny Burrell - Midnight Blue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garymd Posted May 23, 2005 Share Posted May 23, 2005 ---------------- On 5/23/2005 12:22:12 PM Gilbert wrote: ---------------- On 5/23/2005 9:38:46 AM maxg wrote: Paul, This is beneath you! Allan maybe easy to wind up but you have really made a mess of what could have been an informative thread. ---------------- Ditto that Maxi. As for jazz, Gary sent me a pretty cool jazz cd. Gary, my favorites are songs 1,3,5 and 8. I love the song titled "My Fathers Eyes", or at least that's what I think the title is. And just for the record, if and when I drink it's usually Becks, or Fat Tire, sometimes Corona in the summer. But when I'm with special friends, or just plain good company, then I may turn to Scotch, Blue label on the rocks or with mineral water. My taste buds got spoiled on the Blue. ---------------- Gilbert, Those would be: Horace Silver, "A Song For My Father" Art Blakey & The Jazz Messengers, "Moanin'" Cannonball Adderly/Miles Davis, "Autumn Leaves" Herbie Hancock, "Watermelon Man." All great songs. All classics. Then again, there's not a bad song on that album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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