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okay okay Paul,

how bout YOUR top 10 then?

and if Artto's listening in how bout HIS top 10?

Like our gentle poster, I've dabbled in some Monk, Miles, Coltrane, but feel that it's time to get truly educated about Jazz, so let's please stop the name calling and talk about the MUSIC please!

can't we all just get along?

Michael

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My ten essentials may have looked something like this at different points over the past couple years (in no particular order):

Duke Pearson, Wahoo

Lee Morgan, Cornbread

Art Pepper, Art Pepper + 11

Grant Green, Idle Moments

Sonny Rollins, Live At The Music Inn (Teddy Edwards with Joe Castro on side 2)

John Coltrane, Blue Train

Tina Brooks, True Blue

Jimmy Smith, The Sermon

Sonny Criss, This Is Criss

Benny Golson, Groovin' With Golson

About 200 honorable mentions.

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On 5/21/2005 9:51:06 PM kuisis wrote:

You might want to look into the Mosaic Box sets. They are more expensive, but have a good combination, just my opinion. For the record I like Blanton's better than even Bookers. The Grant Green Mosaic is excellent.

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The 1991 Grant Green Mosaic set (out of print now) is great if you can find it. The original question had to do with essential LPs, as for essential non-essentials also check out the Andrew Hill, Duke Pearson, Grachan Moncur III Mosaic Select 3-CD box sets offered at $39 before they are sold out, the excellent Mosaic Art Pepper box set mentioned above is the same price! Grachan and Jackie McLean in '67 free jazzing on Saturday & Sunday. .

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Gary

I have no idea where that school is. I guess not in PA.

I will be back to MD soon however.

Coda

I had the good fortune to buy a bunch of box sets for next to nothing, from a friend. He's selling them to me because he is getting older and not listening to much music anymore. I am going to buy some of those 3 disc sets soon.

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On 5/21/2005 11:37:14 PM 3dzapper wrote:

If you ever see the six album set,"the Smthsonian Collection of Classic Jazz" from 1973, in a used record shop or thrift store, buy it. Something for and from everyone.

Rick

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I happen to have a spare NM copy for anyone interested. Includes book. $20 plus shipping. I paid a bit more.

Tom,

DeSales is in PA but closer to Philly.

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Paul, you really are pathetic. Take another break from this place and get some new material.

As to the original question, there's quite a difference between a "beginners' essentials" list, and a "pack your bags we're moving to Nairobi" list...

My list for Nairobi at the moment:

Belongings Jan Garbarek/Keith Jarrett/Palle Danielson/Jon Christensen

On Broadway, vol III Paul Motian Quintet (w/ Bill Frisell, Charlie Haden, Joe Lovano, and Lee Konitz)

Mingus Joni Mitchell (w/ Jaco Pastorius)

Organ Grinder's Swing The Incredible Jimmy Smith

Bluesnik Jackie McLean

In A Silent Way Miles Davis

Still Life (Talking) Pat Metheny Group

Dream of You Helen Merrill

Sinatra at the Sands Frank Sinatra (w/ the Basie band and Quincy Jones arr.)

The Power of Three Michel Petrucciani (w/ Jim Hall and Wayne Shorter)

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Just listened to "Dream of You" during my morning commute. Gil Evans at his best! Helen Merrill requested that Gil Evans arrange her second Emarcy LP when Evans was really not doing much--years had gone by since his groundbreaking days with the Thornhill band and the "Birth of the Cool" sessions with Miles. "Miles Ahead" was still over a year away. The album went way over budget and took a while to finish and "Dream of You" would up being released as Merrill's THIRD LP--the "With Strings" record actully came out before "Dream of You" by a few months even though it was recorded later. This is "modern" big band arranging at it's best and Merrill is in top form.

You might be intestested in the SECOND Merrill/Evans LP from THIRTY YEARS later:

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Eleven of the twelve cuts are reworkings of the SAME tunes on "Dream of You." The only difference is that "Summertine" replaces "You're Lucky to Me." All of the arrangments are FRESH and very immaginative. This was Gil Evans' last great date and one of Merrill's best outings of the 1980's.

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Not able to produce a list of Jazz - although there is some I quite like. The nearest thing I would take with me to Nairobi (or wherever it was) would be Gershwin - who I cant decide whether to place in modern classical or elaborate jazz categories (my own categories that is).

Allan,

Gershwin fan at all? Could it be we have one composer in common?

One more thing - the phrase "dont feed the troll" applies even if your answers are one word. Best not to respond at all.

Paul,

This is beneath you! Allan maybe easy to wind up but you have really made a mess of what could have been an informative thread.

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On 5/23/2005 9:38:46 AM maxg wrote:

Paul,

This is beneath you! Allan maybe easy to wind up but you have really made a mess of what could have been an informative thread.
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No, Max. It's just about right for him.

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oh, oh, oh, Gary pick me, pick me.

Gary has msg. I'll take that box set off your hands if you still have it.

Thanks, I've really got to sit down and get some serious listening done- soon!

Started moving my LP boxes into storage shelves in hallway today, Gary has an entire 5' shelf devoted to what he's sent me- wooo hooo

Michael

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Allan,

My copy of Hellen Merrill, 1954 is one of my favorites. Is it the same LP to which you are referring?

Michael,

PM'd you back. I'll send it out as soon as I have time. Probably next week sometime. I have 60+ people coming to the house Saturday for a graduation party. Still lots to do!!! I haven't stopped working around the house in about 2 months. Can't wait for Sunday! I may sleep until noon.5.gif

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On 5/23/2005 9:38:46 AM maxg wrote:

Paul,

This is beneath you! Allan maybe easy to wind up but you have really made a mess of what could have been an informative thread.

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Ditto that Maxi.

As for jazz, Gary sent me a pretty cool jazz cd. Gary, my favorites are songs 1,3,5 and 8. I love the song titled "My Fathers Eyes", or at least that's what I think the title is.

And just for the record, if and when I drink it's usually Becks, or Fat Tire, sometimes Corona in the summer. But when I'm with special friends, or just plain good company, then I may turn to Scotch, Blue label on the rocks or with mineral water. My taste buds got spoiled on the Blue.

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This is the debut LP, Emarcy 36006 (the one you have with Clifford Brown):

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"Dream of You" is Emarcy 36078:

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"Dream of You" can be found on ebay in good condtion for about $25-$40 and less if you opt for a "2nd pressing" with the MERCURY labels. I sent my last spare copy to Ben a few months ago or I'd send you one!

ALL of Helen Merrill's Emarcy records are worth seeking out. And you should also get her one Metro Jazz record too ("You've Got a Date with the Blues"). And then there's the records with Dick Katz in the 60's and 70's. Well, I could go on and on--I must have close to 50 Helen Merrill records and CDs!

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Cannonball Adderley - Somethin' Else

Herbie Hancock - Maiden Voyage

Clifford Brown - Study In Brown

John Coltrane - Blue Train

Cannonball Adderley - & Coltrane

Wayne Shorter - Speak No Evil

Horace Silver - Song For My Father

Dizzy Gillespie - Sonny Side Up

Miles Davis - Kind Of Blue

John Coltrane - Giant Steps

J. J. Johnson - The Eminent Volume 1

Eric Dolphy - Out To Lunch

Oliver Nelson - Blues & The Abstract Truth

Lee Morgan - The Sidewinder

Hank Mobley - Soul Station

Miles Davis - Milestones

Wes Montgomery - Smokin At The Half Note

Lee Morgan - Cornbread

Larry Young - Unity

Sonny Rollins - Saxophone Collossus

John Coltrane - Mainstream 1958

Mccoy Tyner - The Real Mccoy

John Coltrane - A Love Supreme

Johnny Smith - Moonlight In Vermont

Paul Chambers - Chambers Music

June Christy - Something Cool

Dizzy Gillespie - Jazz At Massey Hall

Art Blakey - A Night At Birdland Vol. 1

Dizzy Gillespie - Duets

Bill Evans - Undercurrent

Gene Ammons - Boss Tenors

Kenny Burrell - & John Coltrane

Miles Davis - 'Round About Midnight

Erroll Garner - Concert By The Sea

Miles Davis - Relaxin' With Miles

Wes Montgomery - Incredible Jazz Guitar

Joe Henderson - Page One

Frank Rosolino - Free For All

Wes Montgomery - Full House

Art Farmer - Modern Art

Carl Fontana - 5 Star Ed

Sonny Rollins - Tenor Madness

Art Blakey - Moanin'

Thelonious Monk - With John Coltrane

Chick Corea - Now He Sings, Now He Sobs

Freddie Hubbard - Open Sesame

Bill Evans - Sunday At Village Vanguard

Charlie Parker - Now's The Time

Stan Getz - For Musician's Only

Dizzy Gillespie - Groovin' High

Dexter Gordon - Ballads

Charlie Parker - Bird & Diz

Joe Henderson - Lush Life, Strayhorn Music

Freddie Hubbard - Red Clay

Bill Evans - Waltz For Debby

Kenny Dorham - Una Mas

Lester Young - The President Plays W/The Oscar Peterson Trio

Joe Henderson - In 'N Out

John Coltrane - & Johnny Hartman

Grant Green - Feelin' The Spirit

Nancy Wilson - With Cannonball Add.

Miles Davis - Cookin'

Red Garland - Groovy

Miles Davis - Steamin' With Miles Davis

Johnny Griffin - A Blowin' Session

Grant Green - Born To Be Blue

John Coltrane - Ballads

Johnny Hartman - I Just Dropped By To Say Hello

Carl Fontana - The Great Fontana

Grant Green - Idle Moments

Art Blakey - Ugetsu

Stanley Turrentine - Sugar

Bill Evans - Intermodulation

Art Blakey - A Night At Birdland Vol. 2

Freddie Hubbard - Hub Tones

Hank Mobley - The Turnaround!

Bud Powell - The Genius Of

Lee Konitz - Subconscious-Lee

Stan Getz - Stan Getz & Bill Evans

Milt Jackson - Bags Meets Wes

Jimmy Smith - Back At The Chicken Shack

Sonny Rollins - Plus Four

June Christy - The Misty Miss Christy

Joe Henderson - Inner Urge

Duke Ellington - Money Jungle

Woody Herman - Keeper Of The Flame

Chet Baker - Playboys

Bud Powell - The Amazing - Vol 1

Oscar Peterson - Plays Count Basie

Clifford Brown - Brown/Roach Inc.

Stan Kenton - Duet

Joe Henderson - Mode For Joe

Horace Silver - Blowin' The Blues Away

Clifford Brown - More Study In Brown

Sonny Clark - Leapin' And Lopin'

Blue Mitchell - The Thing To Do

Johnny Griffin - Introducing

Sonny Stitt - Constellation

Slide Hampton - World Of Trombones

Keith Jarrett - Standards Vol. 1

Miles Davis - Kind of Blue

John Coltrane - Ascension

John coltrane - My Favorite Things

Duke Ellington - Okeh Ellington

Miles Davis - The Birth of The Cool

Thelonius Monk - Brilliant Corners

John Coltrane - A Love Supreme

Louis Armstrong - Complete "Hot Fives & Sevens"

Billie Holiday - The Complete Billie Holiday on Verve 1945-1959

Ornette Coleman - The Shape of Jazz To Come

John Coltrane - Giant Steps

Ella Fitzgerald - 75th Birthday Celebration

Sarah Vaughan - Sarah Vaughan with Clifford Brown

Albert Ayler - Spiritual Unity

Roscoe Mitchell Sextet - Sound

The Modern Jazz Quartet - Lonely Woman

Dave Brubeck Quartet - Time Out

John Coltrane - Blue Train

Bessie Smith - The Collection

Lester Young - With the Oscar Peterson Trio

Duke Ellington - The Blanton Webster Band

Miles Davis - *****es Brew

Charlie Parker - Yardbird Suite

Count Basie - The Complete Atomic Basie

Charles Mingus - Mingus Ah Um

Dizzy Gilepsie - Shaw Nuff

Art Blakey - Moanin'

Sidney Bechet - Master Takes: Victor Sessions (1932-1943)

Fletcher Henderson - A Study in Frustration/Thesaurus of Classic Jazz

Benny Goodman - Sing, Sing, Sing

Herbie Hancock - Maiden Voyage

Sonny Rollins - Saxophone Colossus

Clifford Brown - The Beginning & The End

Sonny Rollins - Way Out West

Max Roach - Percussion Bitter Sweet

Herbie Hancock - Head Hunters

. Sun Ra - Atlantis

Fats Navarro & Tadd Dameron - The Complete Blue Note and Capitol Recordings

Wardell Gray - Wardell Gray Memorial, Vol. 1

Sonny Stitt - Endgame Brilliance: Constellation & Tune-Up

J.J. Johnson & Al Grey - Things Are Getting Better All the Time

Coleman Hawkins - Body and Soul

Dexter Gordon - Go!

Phil Woods - Rights of Swing

Clifford Brown/Max Roach - At Basin Street

Horace Silver - Horace Silver and the Jazz Messengers

Art Farmer with Benny Golson - Meet The Jazztet

Jackie Mclean - Destination: Out!

Freddie Hubbard - Ready For Freddie

Hank Mobley - soul Station

Donald Byrd - A New Perspective

Wes Montgomery - The Incredible Jazz Guitar of...

Lee Morgan - The Sidewinder

Cannonball Adderly - Somethin' Else

Grant Green - Idle Moments

Joe Henderson - Page One

Horace Silver - Song For My Father

Bobby Timmons - This Here Is Bobby Timmons

Jimmy Smith - Back at the Chicken Shack

Gene Harris - Introducing The Three Sounds

Jack McDuff - Brother Jack McDuff Live!

Shirley Scott - Soul Shoutin'

Peggy Lee - Capitol Collectors Series, Vol. 1: The Early Years

Willis "Gator" Jackson - Legends of Acid Jazz

George Benson - Beyond the Blue Horizon

Scott Joplin - His Complete Works

Jelly Roll Morton - 1923-1924

King Oliver - Great Original Performances 1923-1930

Kid Ory's Creole Jazz Band - Kid Ory's Creole Jazz Band (1954)

Johnny Dodds - 1926

Artie Shaw - Big Bands

Lester Young and the Oscar Peterson Trio - S/T

Bud Powell - The Amazing Bud Powell, Vol. 1

Erroll Garner - Concert by the Sea

Louis Armstrong and His All-Stars - Plays W.C. Handy

Miles Davis - Round About Midnight

Stan Getz - Sweet Rain

Miles Davis - Miles Ahead

Miles Davis - Miles Smiles

Woody Shaw - Rosewood

Sun Ra and his Arkestra - Live at Montreux

Cecil Taylor - Unit Structures

McCoy Tyner - Expansions

Eric Dolphy - Out There

John Coltrane - Live At The Village Vanguard

Bill Evans - Sunday at the Village Vanguard

Lionel Hampton - Hamp: The Legendary Decca Recordings

Charlie Christian - The Genius of the Electric Guitar

Earl Hines - Tour de Force

Bix Beiderbecke - Bixology, 1924-30

Eubie Blake - Blues and Rags (1917-1921)

Albert Ammons - The First Day

Lennie Tristano - Descent into the Maelstrom

Charles Mingus - Pithecanthropus Erectus

Joe McPhee - Topology

Don Cherry - Mu

Mose Allison - The Sage of Tippo

Butch Morris - Dust To Dust

Kenny Burrell - Midnight Blue

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On 5/23/2005 12:22:12 PM Gilbert wrote:

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On 5/23/2005 9:38:46 AM maxg wrote:

Paul,

This is beneath you! Allan maybe easy to wind up but you have really made a mess of what could have been an informative thread.

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Ditto that Maxi.

As for jazz, Gary sent me a pretty cool jazz cd. Gary, my favorites are songs 1,3,5 and 8. I love the song titled "My Fathers Eyes", or at least that's what I think the title is.

And just for the record, if and when I drink it's usually Becks, or Fat Tire, sometimes Corona in the summer. But when I'm with special friends, or just plain good company, then I may turn to Scotch, Blue label on the rocks or with mineral water. My taste buds got spoiled on the Blue.

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Gilbert,

Those would be:

Horace Silver, "A Song For My Father"

Art Blakey & The Jazz Messengers, "Moanin'"

Cannonball Adderly/Miles Davis, "Autumn Leaves"

Herbie Hancock, "Watermelon Man."

All great songs. All classics. Then again, there's not a bad song on that album.2.gif

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