meuge Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 At about 4am ET today, or about 9am GMT, 6 large explosions rocked London during the morning rush hour. The details are still uncertain, but at least 3 of those explosions happened inside the trains of the London underground, and one inside a double-decker bus. The information about casualties is quite sketchy at this point, but I will be updating it as I receive the news. Claiming responsibility is a European section of Al-Qaeda. The statement mentioned that the blasts were a warning to the European nations that are participating in the war in Iraq, as well as anti-terrorist campaigns. They also threatened more blasts in the near future and demanded immediate withdrawal from Iraq and Afghanistan. I will be updating this with more information as I get it. Casualty Count So Far: Dead: ~45-50 Severely Wounded: ~150 Total Injured: ~ 300 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrot Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 It will be interesting to see England's response: Whether they will attempt to appease Al-Qaeda or whether they will fight them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Songer Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 ---------------- On 7/7/2005 9:50:29 AM Parrot wrote: It will be interesting to see England's response: Whether they will attempt to appease Al-Qaeda or whether they will fight them. ---------------- You certainly don't know the British if you have to ask this . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrot Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 I know how the English responded to the IRA and Sinn Fein. Rather than being wiped out, they now have great political power throughout Ireland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Traveler Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 ---------------- On 7/7/2005 9:50:29 AM Parrot wrote: It will be interesting to see England's response: Whether they will attempt to appease Al-Qaeda or whether they will fight them. ---------------- I think the British public is going to ask why more of an effort hasn't been geared toward Al-Qaeda and Bin Laden. This truly saddens me. I have stayed at hotels at both Russell Square and Edgware Road in London. As an American I can't help but think this event ironically is going to raise anti-American sentiment in Europe in general, and especially in England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrot Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 tkd, You may be right, unfortunately. Many people do not understand that Osama is simply a figurehead for Al Qaeda. He does not plan the operations himself, just gives them his blessing. There is Al Qaeda in Iraq, under Zarqawi, and now an Al Qaeda group based in England. If Osama were captured or killed tomorrow, Al Qaeda would continue. It is complete nonsense to believe that Al Qaeda stops at the borders of Afghanistan. The difference is that Afghanistan is a popular war with Americans, and the Iraq war half popular/half unpopular. Those against the Iraq war constantly try to play down Al Qaeda involvement in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigrol21 Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 I am very sad about those in London where everything struck today. I am very mad that these sorry group of people are such cowards. I wish that they would step forward and quit with the hate crimes on inocent people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Traveler Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 ---------------- On 7/7/2005 10:55:45 AM Parrot wrote: tkd, ... If Osama were captured or killed tomorrow, Al Qaeda would continue. It is complete nonsense to believe that Al Qaeda stops at the borders of Afghanistan. The difference is that Afghanistan is a popular war with Americans, and the Iraq war half popular/half unpopular. Those against the Iraq war constantly try to play down Al Qaeda involvement in it. ---------------- The Afghanistan war understood by most of the WORLD and not just Americans. Insofar as the Iraq War is concerned... Let me respond this way. When you say: "I know how the English responded to the IRA and Sinn Fein. Rather than being wiped out, they now have great political power throughout Ireland." I agree. The Iraq War has strengthened Muslim extremists resolve and enrollment in Al Qaeda and other Muslim extremist groups. I will disagree with what could have happened if Bin Laden and Mullah Omar would have been killed and we didn't go into Iraq. I realize that this is just my opinion and there are others that totally disagree. I respectfully will leave this discussion. If we have any Londoners on the forum, please know my thoughts are with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddy Dee Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Savages! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royster Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Godspeed to those who were taken by these animals. May those that are injured recover. We as Americans feel your pain. Roy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicholtl Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 No terrorist group has claimed responsibility yet, as far as I know. Although everyone has a pretty good guess... I think the count thus far is about 40 dead, 700 injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.4knee Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Here is the claim of responsibility. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8496293/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrot Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Remember, it was a year or two before Osama was directly tied into 9/11, with the videotape where he laughed about the planes hitting the WTC and the "muscle" on board not even knowing they were on a suicide mission. Al-Qaeda sometimes claims responsibility, sometimes doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott0527 Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 ---------------- On 7/7/2005 11:35:53 AM tkdamerica wrote: ---------------- On 7/7/2005 10:55:45 AM Parrot wrote: tkd, I agree. The Iraq War has strengthened Muslim extremists resolve and enrollment in Al Qaeda and other Muslim extremist groups. ---------------- Before the Iraq War, Muslim Extremists had enough resolve and enrollment to blow up the World Trade Center. I don't really beleive it's any stronger now. That's my opinion though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audio Flynn Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Many people do not understand that Osama is simply a figurehead for Al Qaeda. He does not plan the operations himself, just gives them his blessing. There is Al Qaeda in Iraq, under Zarqawi, and now an Al Qaeda group based in England. If Osama were captured or killed tomorrow, Al Qaeda would continue. +++++++++++++ AlQaeda is an outlet for the disenfranchised youth of the Arab world cultivated by the Wahhibbi sect of Islam for over 30 years. It has the potential to go on for decades. It is entrenched in Radical Islam as much as baseball or basketball in the USA. Defeat baseball or basketball? Not an easy task. Sorry for the innocent souls harmed in this event. As far as this event spawning anti American sentiment....ignorance knows no bounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaveMan Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 First of all - my thoughts are prayers go out to the people of London and the UK... Secondly, I hope this reminds the libs out there that our war on terror is GLOBAL (i.e. not just in one theater like Afghanistan), and that our resolve must NOT be that of candy-asses... b...b..bbb-but Islam is a religion of PEACE... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Songer Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 A letter to the terrorists from London: http://www.lnreview.co.uk/news/005167.php DAMN, I LOVE THE BRITS!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaveMan Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 ---------------- On 7/7/2005 12:32:55 PM nicholtl wrote: No terrorist group has claimed responsibility yet, as far as I know. Although everyone has a pretty good guess... I think the count thus far is about 40 dead, 700 injured. ---------------- http://www.thisislondon.com/news/articles/PA_NEWA13403051120735771A0?source=PA%20Feed Al Qaida claim over blasts 7 July 2005 Al Qaida terrorists have claimed responsibility for the London blasts on an Islamic website and said that "Britain is burning with fear". The unverified claim, made on the Al-Qal'ah - Fortress - internet site, was posted by a group calling themselves the Secret Organisation Group of Al-Qa'ida of Jihad Organisation in Europe. The message said: "The heroic mujahidin have carried out a blessed raid in London." It continued: "Britain is now burning with fear, terror and panic in its northern, southern, eastern, and western quarters." The claims, picked up by BBC Monitoring, claimed that the strikes were revenge for British military "massacres" in Iraq and Afghanistan. Terrorists appeared to warn Denmark and Italy that they will also suffer attacks if they do not withdraw troops from Iraq. The message went on: "In the name of God, the merciful, the compassionate, may peace be upon the cheerful one and the dauntless fighter, Prophet Muhammad, God's peace be upon him. "O nation of Islam and nation of Arabism: Rejoice for it is time to take revenge from the British Zionist Crusader Government in retaliation for the massacres Britain is committing in Iraq and Afghanistan." Elaph, a secular Arabic-language news website, and Der Spiegel magazine in Berlin, both reported that a group calling itself The Secret Organisation of al Qaida in Europe had posted a claim of responsibility for the series of blasts, saying they were in retaliation for Britain's involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan. The statement, which also threatened attacks in Italy and Denmark, was published on a website popular with Islamic militants, according to the two sources which both published the text on their websites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaveMan Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 ---------------- On 7/7/2005 2:22:12 PM Allan Songer wrote: A letter to the terrorists from London: http://www.lnreview.co.uk/news/005167.php DAMN, I LOVE THE BRITS!!!!!! ---------------- Notice there is no mention of reprise or resolution in dealing with the terrorists in that letter? Simply they say they failed and that they should go away... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Spinner Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 i hope the English people take control of thier lives again by keeping Firearms ..... lookit Australia .. yea .. GUN CONTROL WORKS .. for Criminals ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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