mark1101 Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 Did anyone hear this one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 Roy set up the A/B test very well. He said the levels were balanced between all the speakers, so efficiency was taken out of the comparison. We listened to the same portion of the same music selection, a James Taylor piece with full band orchestration, which I thought was a nice sample, although I was not familiar with it. It started as simple voice and guitar (possibly piano), building with full rock ensemble later on. The same amp was used for each, being a pro model QSC. We listened to H3, CW3, LS2, and Jubilee with smaller and larger horn, in that order. Then Roy swapped the H3, CW3 and LS2 several times for our group. For me, I listen to the bass regions more critically, being an ex-bass player and fan of the lower frequencies in music. The improved LS (lets call it LS2) still seemed to lack the transient attack of the CW3 and the upper bass region was a little muffled or distant sounding. I did still prefer the LS2 mid over the CW3 mid, but that is not my primary listening focus. Although I cannot compare these newer models directly to the originals, I currently have both LS and CW set up side by side in my hearth room, so I am extraordinarily familiar with the differences. Being a fan of my existing CW over LS, I'm not surprised to prefer the new CW3 over the LS2. The H3 was very very close to the CW3, but exhibited more roll off of bass frequencies. Hope this helps, it's very difficult to write about sound in such detail. But the listening tests were conducted very fairly imho. Michael We heard these speakers, no more, no less. This is inclusive of all the speakers we heard, we heard no other speakers. There were 5 (five) that we were able to audition. Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Spinner Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 did someone say Horn ...???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBrennan Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 Duke----Yeah, but we JBL-Altec guys have a long history of bringing pro speakers into the home. Lots of Klipschies are more, ah, fastidious. Here's some of what I used to use in my basement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBrennan Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 A guy needs decent surround speakers, can't just putz around with Heresys or RFs you know. ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBrennan Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 Indy---I never heard a KPT-325 but what I know about speakers leads me to believe it should sound at least as good as a Cornwall, I mean why not? It should have lower distortion and better dynamics from it's large format driver. The very top end would need EQ but it's not like the T-35 is some kind of a high frequency champion either. I happen to think a pair of those would look so kool in a HT setup or a loft style apartment or condo, I could go for a set myself. As for the lack of style of the pro cabinetry; well they're tools and they look like what they need to look like to do the job intended. Nobody styles hammers. Honest to God, so many guys here worry about what the consumer side of Klipsch is going to do when the real action is with the pro stuff. All this cool stuff so many here are overlooking. And it's available right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Spinner Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 Ya ....i don't git it .....there's Lotsa fun to be had......... outside the dotted lines ......[] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 I realized all too late that what Tom is saying here is true. I could have put together some Jubilees and still had change left over if I hadn't of bought my Klipschorns. Of course, I didn't know everything I know now. Oh well, live and learn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwc Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 Guys, we are getting off topic. But heh, let me digress a little with you. Question? What really makes something "pro audio"? Oh and on topic....That CW3 lookin neato Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Spinner Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 what driver goes on tha big lense, Tom ....i got somma them upstars ... 1" throat 2420 ..i think .??? or somethin' else Bigger....[] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Spinner Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 Indy---I never heard a KPT-325 but what I know about speakers leads me to believe it should sound at least as good as a Cornwall, I mean why not? It should have lower distortion and better dynamics from it's large format driver. The very top end would need EQ but it's not like the T-35 is some kind of a high frequency champion either. I happen to think a pair of those would look so kool in a HT setup or a loft style apartment or condo, I could go for a set myself. As for the lack of style of the pro cabinetry; well they're tools and they look like what they need to look like to do the job intended. Nobody styles hammers. Honest to God, so many guys here worry about what the consumer side of Klipsch is going to do when the real action is with the pro stuff. All this cool stuff so many here are overlooking. And it's available right now. ya Pad down the Mid's .. to get the upper end flat like the 4430 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBrennan Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 Duke---Those are 1" LE-175s (home version of the 2410) on McCauley lenses. The dispersion was 130 degrees horizontal which was too wide for front speakers in my room but was great for surrounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Spinner Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 McCauley .... almost forgot them .....[] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 You guys are on the right track, after all, especially with HT what are we trying to do but capture the response and dynamics of a very impressive pro sound in our homes, right? The Klipsch driver hooked up to either of those horns over the Jubilee cabinet was MASSIVE. The driver itself is so specialized that it is manufactured right there in Hope. We saw the 3" (yes three inch) voice coil and titanium dome on the line being mated to the even more massive magnet structure. This is a very intense driver people. Roy says that it goes from 800 to 20,000- we heard it with NO EQ whatsoever and it was amazing! Insofar as a 'pretty' consumer version of the Jubilee, look at the cabinet closely. The only wood grain is the flat panel across the front and two simple grille boxes enclose the horn outputs on the sides. It would be a simple matter to create a 'consumer' version from a pro model suitable for the finest living rooms. If'n ya don't like the horn on top, just build a box around it or stretch fabric over the horn mouth itself. I'm IN, I might go for this. Don't have corner for khorns, so there's nowhere to go but PRO. Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Spinner Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 pRO is where it's AT................[] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvel Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 I've always been in on this and never considered aesthetics much. I just never have had the money. [] Bruce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seadog Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 "What really makes something "pro audio"?" ---------------------------- Black paint and handles [] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seadog Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 Tom, What is that one? David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwc Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 "What really makes something "pro audio"?" ---------------------------- Black paint and handles [] I should have known it was that simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddy Dee Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 how about this... KPT-904-HF, is mated to the KDE-75-8P titanium compression driver, then we use the Jubilee bass bin...? Yeh, and at 107db efficient, it won't take alot of watts to rock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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