wheelman Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 What's a better buy? Pb-10 isd, or 25-35pci? I heard the Pb will play lower. I am looking for both music, and Ht on a budget. I am starting to like the cylinder look, but i like the pb's looks also and price most of all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheelman Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 What's a better buy? Pb-10 isd, or 25-35pci? I heard the Pb will play lower. I am looking for both music, and Ht on a budget. I am starting to like the cylinder look, but i like the pb's looks also and price most of all. Well let's see wheelman. Maybe the pb-10 would be. I don't know if you really need the extra power. I am assuming it's pretty close. I hope this helped. [] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedball Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 Lol...lol..dont you hate it when no one replies to your post?....lol. Really, the guys at svs can answer all the questions about their products. I never owned a sub before and was trying to save a buck so I went with the cylinder. As big as it looks it still blends into the room and I never notice it anymore. It's standing just behind and off to the side of an Rf-7 speaker and the speaker looks bigger. I have wondered about 2 pb10's instead of a single cylinder, I've heard a lot of good things about stereo subs.........Now, if I had the room or $$$ for two RSW-15's from Klipsch I would reeeeeally be happy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheelman Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 Lol...lol..dont you hate it when no one replies to your post?....lol. Really, the guys at svs can answer all the questions about their products. I never owned a sub before and was trying to save a buck so I went with the cylinder. As big as it looks it still blends into the room and I never notice it anymore. It's standing just behind and off to the side of an Rf-7 speaker and the speaker looks bigger. I have wondered about 2 pb10's instead of a single cylinder, I've heard a lot of good things about stereo subs.........Now, if I had the room or $$$ for two RSW-15's from Klipsch I would reeeeeally be happy! Yeah I sure do. I was hoping someone would get a laugh out of that. I've been talking with SVS just about everynight. Good guys no doubt, and about the best customer service on the planet. Pretty much the next model in line's gonna be better everytime from what I gather. But I don't know if I need the extra oomph. I honestly don't need my walls crumbling to the ground. I do want to hear that subterrranian bass and have a nice kick drum that you can actually really feel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedball Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 My thought's on this subwoofer matter is the bigger or more powerful the better, a guy can always turn it down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSoundBroker Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 In the $3K range, assuming you have space...the Danley Labs DTS 20 is heads and tails above everything else....literally (at 84" tall). If you can fit an 18" x 18" x 84" tall box (works great as a center channel support or wall column), then you get a tapped horn enclosure that will do 125 db at 20 hz. At normal human output levels, this HUGE dynamic range leads to vanishingly low distortion levels. It is currently THE Uber sub to buy. Our demo is on order and our demolition permit is in the works... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAS Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 But you may be surprised at how well you can blend it in with your decor. Can you spot the PB12+2? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEAR Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 Yes CAS,I see some candles on the left sitting on some very massive "deco lifestyle" table. [] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEAR Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 In the $3K range, assuming you have space...the Danley Labs DTS 20 is heads and tails above everything else....literally (at 84" tall). If you can fit an 18" x 18" x 84" tall box (works great as a center channel support or wall column), then you get a tapped horn enclosure that will do 125 db at 20 hz. At normal human output levels, this HUGE dynamic range leads to vanishingly low distortion levels. It is currently THE Uber sub to buy. Our demo is on order and our demolition permit is in the works... Ha I am checking these out soon,under 4 grand and capable of 125dB at 20Hz! Hmm interesting I am always looking to add more subwoofers to cure my bass itch [:$] ,at one point I will run out of space. With 18 subs now it gets a bit strange to invite people over,they look puzzled and amused...and worried about my mental health. [st] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmkta148 Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 Anyone here test the ACI Maestro subwoofer? I could only find one review but it sounded like it compared to SVS Ultra2, Velo DD-18, RSW-15. Just wondering since I have not heard this subwoofer mentioned in this forum in terms of a recommendation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSoundBroker Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 In the $3K range, assuming you have space...the Danley Labs DTS 20 is heads and tails above everything else....literally (at 84" tall). If you can fit an 18" x 18" x 84" tall box (works great as a center channel support or wall column), then you get a tapped horn enclosure that will do 125 db at 20 hz. At normal human output levels, this HUGE dynamic range leads to vanishingly low distortion levels. It is currently THE Uber sub to buy. Our demo is on order and our demolition permit is in the works... Ha I am checking these out soon,under 4 grand and capable of 125dB at 20Hz! Hmm interesting I am always looking to add more subwoofers to cure my bass itch [:$] ,at one point I will run out of space. With 18 subs now it gets a bit strange to invite people over,they look puzzled and amused...and worried about my mental health. [st] I'm having to put additional structural reinforcement and damping into everything in our demo room (under construction). There are actually guys out there thinking of TWO of these. Put it this way...it is the equivalent of about four of the SVS B-12-Plus/Four subs or about 4 of the Servodrive subs, and has more output at extremely deep frequencies. It is an absolute monster. They use two of them to cover a 6000 seat rap concert. I think this will not only cure your bass itch...it will scratch it, stomp on it and possibly collapse a wall on it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyKlipschFan Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 CAS... Great looking room! Congrats! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEAR Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 SoundBroker, I will inquire about this sub this week,for $3000US its dirt cheap for such monster output. Now my question to you will be,how is the sub bass quality compared to a Klipsch THX120 sub or a Velodyne HGS18? There lies the whole interest beyond the sheer SPL capabilities. I have subwoofers capable of over 120dB at 31.5Hz,per sub.At 20Hz the best reaches 112dB,this is quite respectable.Now 120dB or more(pair used) is too damn tempting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSoundBroker Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 SoundBroker, I will inquire about this sub this week,for $3000US its dirt cheap for such monster output. Now my question to you will be,how is the sub bass quality compared to a Klipsch THX120 sub or a Velodyne HGS18? There lies the whole interest beyond the sheer SPL capabilities. I have subwoofers capable of over 120dB at 31.5Hz,per sub.At 20Hz the best reaches 112dB,this is quite respectable.Now 120dB or more(pair used) is too damn tempting. Bass quality is astonishing. It is a horn sub, so the speed and impact are outrageous and at the levels most people use, the distortion ought to be ridiculously low. Remember, this sub comes from Tom Danley...acknowledged God of Bass. $3K does not include an amp...but with the efficiency of the unit, you don't need to spend gobs o' dough on an amp to run it. Also, 125db is with one, two would be mindbending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jheis Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 Anyone familiar with the Monitor Audio RSW12 - or how it might compare with the Velodyne SPL1000 or 1200? Thanks. James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEAR Posted November 6, 2005 Share Posted November 6, 2005 The Monitor Audio RSW12 can be often had at a much more interesting price,quality wise both are very well built and use high quality components. The SPL1000 will dig deeper,rest they are both good compact subs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefighter Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 I currently have the SVS pb 12 isd. I am interesting in upgrading to a more powerful sub to run with my LaScalas. I listen to 60% music 40% movies and am getting more into concert dvd's. I am considering the SVS pb 12 plus or the SVS 12 ultra with the single driver, I understand that the ultra driver (tv-12 I think) is much better in that sub but the amp is much lower in power. If memory serves me right the pb 12 plus is 900 watts 2 drivers and the 12 ultra is 525 watts single driver. I like a feel it in your chest slam from a kick drum as well as deep explosions. What is the pro's and con's of this sub comparison? I think they may be close in price so is it not safe to say 2 drivers at 900 watts is going to be better than a single at 525 watts. Thanks for any and all opinions, Jack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 I had the Ultra (tube not box) and PB12+2 at the same time. To me the +2 would put out more SPL than the single driver Ultra. The Ultra driver is a little cleaner sounding however under normal listening. If you are predominately a movie guy, go with the +2, music at sane levels may sound a little better an the Ultra. Neither sub is a slouch by any means and either should be an upgrade. The +2 will give you more SPL and better sound quality. The Ultra will take the SQ up a slight bit from the + driver and give you roughly the SPL of your current sub (if you have the isd2). Carl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jt1stcav Posted November 8, 2005 Author Share Posted November 8, 2005 Oh, if only I had the spare $599... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefighter Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 I can tell you that I have been very happy with my SVS pb12 isd, but it gets like a disease, you want more and more and more. Hopefully I can be happy with the next purchase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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