sputnik Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 If Chad-the stepdad thinks this was soooo cute, what do you suppose happens in that house when there isn't a camera? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Garrison Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 I have a 6 year old son. I cannot conceive of doing anything like that to him. If someone was over at our house and set up Nick to scare him like that, I would throw them out and never invite them over again. I don't understand how any of you could think that doing something like that to a young child is remotely acceptable. It was cruel in the worst way. I'm really disappointed in you guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Matthews Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 If this was so cute, what do you suppose happens in that house when there isn't a camera? I don't know. What do you suppose? And what basis do you have to suppose it? "Pot leads to heroin?" Is that the idea? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Amy Posted February 16, 2006 Moderators Share Posted February 16, 2006 Ok ok, we obviously all have different opinions on this. Let's not make it personal. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-MAN Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 I hope that was his older brother and not his parents setting that little thing up. Then it makes sense. Hopefully parents should know better. DM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sputnik Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 If this was so cute, what do you suppose happens in that house when there isn't a camera? I don't know. What do you suppose? And what basis do you have to suppose it? "Pot leads to heroin?" Is that the idea? I think it's the idea that the stepdad thought it was just sooo funny to see this young kid get so scared that he kept filming it and then put it out on the web. It raises my suspicions about ol' Chad. Would it be at all funny if Chad was scaring a mentally retarded person and filming it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sputnik Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 I hope that was his older brother and not his parents setting that little thing up. Then it makes sense. Hopefully parents should know better. DM The web site where this was posted said it was his stepdad named Chad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Matthews Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 Here's the thing, Ray - at least from my perspective. The world is not "touchy-feely," and as much as you might wish it to be, it will never be. Employers will not be understanding of kid's problems like a parent will be. You either raise the kid to be capable of taking a knocking and handling it, or he/she will not be able to take a knocking and get over it or past it. Lawsuits are a perfect example. Not being used to lawsuits, alot of people are "freaked out and scared and amazed that they might get into a lawsuit." What are they gonna do? Let themselves get pushed around due to their own insecurities? People are focusing way too much on "cooperation" theory to such a degree that it is crippling the competitive nature that is absolutely mandatory in this world. Now, if his dad was doing this incessantly, it could have an adverse impact. But in reality, kids need a little exposure to just about everything. If we try to alter today what they will be exposed to in the future, they will not be able to cope. This kid just got a little braver - let me tell you. They've studied this and run programs on it, such as the one on 60 minutes. This kid was horrified - no doubt. Kind of like the "horrified" that they might experience the first time the seargent pushes his butt out the airplane door on his first parachute jump. Kind of like the "horrified" he might experience the first time the senior partner makes him try a case in front of a jury. And if you don't think that's the same "horrified," let me tell you, there was a number of law students having diarrhea episodes in the school bathrooms during the first year law school exams - no joke. I'd just tell myself: "I know these tests are important, but you've GOT to be kidding." Fact is, kids can be WAY too sheltered. I've seen plenty of little wusses out there, and I pray for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sputnik Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 ...........This kid just got a little braver - let me tell you......... Or, did the kid just get a little more insecure? Over protecting kids is one thing but that just went too far for that kids age. The disturbing part for me is that the stepdad got his jollies from this. Added: I don't think you can sanitize it by saying it was a healthy growth experience for the kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m00n Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 Anyone ever stop to think that maybe the camera quit rolling so the step father could console the child? This was mild compared to some of the stuff I suffered. I turned out fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Matthews Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 ...........This kid just got a little braver - let me tell you......... Or, did the kid just get a little more insecure? It depends. Is he being raised to be a wuss or a strong person? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sputnik Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 ...........This kid just got a little braver - let me tell you......... Or, did the kid just get a little more insecure? It depends. Is he being raised to be a wuss or a strong person? Or, is he being raised by a creep? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Matthews Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 ...........This kid just got a little braver - let me tell you......... Or, did the kid just get a little more insecure? It depends. Is he being raised to be a wuss or a strong person? Or, is he being raised by a creep? Could be, and maybe if the guy's a creep, the boy will turn out a wuss. OTOH, maybe the boy is not really being harmed, and he will turn out strong. How do we get to a final judgment on this boy's life and his step-dad from this one episode? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sputnik Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 ...........This kid just got a little braver - let me tell you......... Or, did the kid just get a little more insecure? It depends. Is he being raised to be a wuss or a strong person? Or, is he being raised by a creep? Could be, and maybe if the guy's a creep, the boy will turn out a wuss. OTOH, maybe the boy is not really being harmed, and he will turn out strong. How do we get to a final judgment on this boy's life and his step-dad from this one episode? I don't know about a final judgement but do you think a strong person would do that to a child, laugh at him, and then publish it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelerFan Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 Now that we know it was the step dad who presumably is an adult, I agree with those who say it was a little over the top. I also agree with those who said if it was an older sibling who is still a child then it was their job. That's what kids have older siblings for, to toughen them up . God knows I tortured my little brother and now he's more successful than me so I feel I did my job well.[] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Garrison Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 Making him *strong*???????????????? It might not hurt in the long run, but sure won't make him "strong." It might turn him into a bully who believes that scaring other little kids for the amusement of it is acceptable behaviour. Scaring a little kid and laughing at him while he's crying won't make him strong. Love, respect, consistent good examples of caring, concern, trust and a willingness to convey responsibility combined with clearly defined boundries and expectations will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Matthews Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 Well said, Steeler Fan. My Big Brother beat me up every day of my life until I was about 13. We get along great, and I can take all kinds of adversity just about anyone can try to throw at me. Parents need to be a little tougher on kids to toughen them up, too. Especially if there's no big brother. They should also let big brothers toughen up little brothers. I agree this guy's trick was a little over the top, but I don't think it makes him an utter loser and poor excuse of a parent. Who knows? He might be anyway. But I'm still there with Rplace on the issue of raising kids these days. Parenting is NOT about understanding kids' problems, accommodating them with Ritalin and telling them they're great when they're not. A swift pop in the early years can go a mighty long way. They need to learn what is expected by age 2-3. If they haven't been disciplined and taught properly, it could be too late after that point. The old "reason-with-your 2-3 year-old" thing is what has resulted in tens of thousands of kids on Ritalin, claiming all their unruliness and slothful behavior is due to attention deficit disorder. A-D-D my a$$. I could fix that A-D-D in 10 minutes, and they'd pay real good attention from then on. It wouldn't take many beatings, either. That's the beauty of it. [] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seadog Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 I can't wait to get home from work and play that prank on my 5-year-old! NOT! That was a mean thing to do to a kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fini Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 Anyone ever stop to think that maybe the camera quit rolling so the step father could console the child? This was mild compared to some of the stuff I suffered. I turned out fine. That's a matter of opinion, Rick...[] Tough guys: Call me a wuss. It's OK. But do that to a kid in my presence, and I'll kick your a$$. You'll be better for it, too.[] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neo33 Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 Whiners! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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