Initial impressions of Crites tweeter in Vertical Cornwalls . . .

[meagain]

Since I can't 'possibly' be accused of hijacking this thread......

IF one pulled the grill cloth off & removed what appears to be edge molding from the Verts.... would one find a black faceplate or the same wood as the sides?

My question is... ARE there decorator vertical cornwalls or are the vert decorators out there merely have had their grills ripped off.

Allan - You are saying despite the horn being physically vertical, they sound better that way then laying on their sides? I wonder how this is possible.

[bkrop]

meagain: narrow rooms![]

[travisc]

Since I can't 'possibly' be accused of hijacking this thread......

IF one pulled the grill cloth off & removed what appears to be edge molding from the Verts.... would one find a black faceplate or the same wood as the sides?

My question is... ARE there decorator vertical cornwalls or are the vert decorators out there merely have had their grills ripped off.

Allan - You are saying despite the horn being physically vertical, they sound better that way then laying on their sides? I wonder how this is possible.

no, the motor board on decorators sits flush with the the sides where, non decorators motor board sits reccessed back a 1/2" or so. as to the finish of the wood I would think that it would be just raw unfinished Birch or fir plywood.

[DrWho]

I'm curious about this modeling clay

business. There's a fair bit of anecdotal evidence on this and

other forums about the relative merits of damping horns.

Personally, I can't see how the liberal application of

such damping material could benefit the sound for the

better. If the designers thought there was some merit, would they

not have included this procedure in the original design?

Just think of how expensive it would be for a manufacturer to implement

such a mod to every single speaker....and then think of a person's

response when they see clay spread around on the inside...The damping

was also a much bigger concern with the older metal horns - back in the

day where they didn't know it'd be a problem...and then later on it was

too expensive to do anything about it....until the plastic horns came

around. Some people do it with the plastic horns too, but it's really

not as big of a difference. Heck, it wasn't really a huge difference

with the metal ones either (but big enough to make it worthwhile for

someone picky about their sound).

I suppose if you look at it another way....damping can never hurt the

sound, so why not do it just to be on the safe side? I suppose using

that logic we might as well build our cabinets with 3 feet thick walls

too []

Btw, i can't believe how you guys didn't catch the sarcasm in parrot's post...I about died laughing...lol

[boomac]

Whether its sarcastic or sincere, the Parrot most always puts a smile on my face![] Let the dogs bark![]

[edwinr]

...The damping was also a much bigger concern with the older metal horns - back in the day where they didn't know it'd be a problem...and then later on it was too expensive to do anything about it....until the plastic horns came around... I suppose if you look at it another way....damping can never hurt the sound, so why not do it just to be on the safe side? I suppose using that logic we might as well build our cabinets with 3 feet thick walls too []

Btw, i can't believe how you guys didn't catch the sarcasm in parrot's post...I about died laughing...lol

Hey, Mike.

Thanks for your insight. I guess when I think about it, the metal midrange horn in my old Klipschorns made a ringing sound when struck. The later plastic one's don't ring as much. So I can see where liberal application of damping in certain cases may be a good thing.

But interestingly, some manufacturers, like Audio Note (UK) take this cabinet resonance thing to the nth degree. If you knock on the cabinet of an AN speaker, it sounds hollow. But somehow or other the designer has integrated this feature into the overall sound - much like a guitar body, I guess.

[DrWho]

But interestingly, some manufacturers, like Audio

Note (UK) take this cabinet resonance thing to the nth degree. If

you knock on the cabinet of an AN speaker, it sounds hollow. But

somehow or other the designer has integrated this feature into the

overall sound - much like a guitar body, I guess.

I have been quite intrigued about that approach for some time now, but

never could remember the company...I definetly would love to give one

of these speakers a listen some time. It's one of those things where

you can either fight the limitations of the design or you can try to

use those limitations to your advantage...kinda like how PWK took

advantage of the room corner. Cabinet vibrations will always be there

so I see no reason why one shouldn't at least try to make them sound as

pleasing as possible.