khorn#1 Posted March 23, 2006 Share Posted March 23, 2006 Taking notice that klipsch has removed the 1 inch spacer board between the top hat horn section and the bass bin in the new khorns, Im thinking about removing the spacer board on my 2004 models. My khorns are set up in a two channel - home theater room ( 17 x 21 x8 ) and they are on the short wall with false corners. I know the long wall would be better for these performance wise but, because of home theater issues I had to compromise. Im sitting about 14 feet back for 2 channel and movie watching. The other night I got to thinking if I removed that spacer board that would lower the horn section down an inch. We all know how tall the khorns are and the importance of the sweet spot, the horn section especially the tweeter seems to be taller than ear level in my setup which Im thinking that if I removed the spacer boards it might improve performance. Im also thinking that If I did this because of the the rear upper section supports and the rear mid horn support slight modification might void my warranty. Doing this might be a total waste of time and also considering any warranty issues. These khorns are wonderful, by far the best speakers I've ever owned and the last speakers for mains I ever buy. Just wondering if this easy mod what help performance at all in my setup.Give me some input please guys. Thanks..........Randy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullwinkle Posted March 23, 2006 Share Posted March 23, 2006 Have you thought of elevating you chair an inch to see if the effect is worthwhile? Just a thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryC Posted March 23, 2006 Share Posted March 23, 2006 There are plenty of guys on the forum who can tell you if that's a terrible idea from the woodworking stanpoint -- let me just say I think the insert has always been what makes the "B" model THE classic Klipschorn style (MO, of course). Removing it would make it more like the old "C" style -- see hifilit.com. IMO, I think you're just fine with that classic style and the newer AK-4 drivers and network inside. Enjoy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrestonTom Posted March 23, 2006 Share Posted March 23, 2006 The "B" style cabinets (with the collar in between) do look nicer. My opinion: don't change it. -Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAKO Posted March 24, 2006 Share Posted March 24, 2006 Sonicly it would be a waste of time. Vertically polar dispersion is pretty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khorn#1 Posted March 24, 2006 Author Share Posted March 24, 2006 Thanks for the input guys, I have decided to leave well enough alone and enjoy the music. Sometimes you can find yourself thinking and that can be dangerous at times in this hobby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-Man Posted March 24, 2006 Share Posted March 24, 2006 It would be a big mistake to change a B style Klipschorn into the C style. To me the B style always had sex appeal. It's a nice design. Look at the new LaScala, it's now a sexy looking speaker too. I understand the LaScala change, but I don't understand why Klipsch took it away from the Klipschorn. Here I thought that Klipsch took what worked for the K-Horn and put it into the LaScala. After reading this topic I went to look at the pictures of the new Klipschorn, and sure enought you guys are right. I can't believe Klipsch did that. I even copied the B style look when I built the rounded top hats for the Altec horns. You can lower the tweeters without changing the look. Years ago, before the Forum existed, some people would reverse the tweeter and 400 horn. My tweeters are mounted below my midrange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrot Posted March 24, 2006 Share Posted March 24, 2006 I know you guys are thinking that just because my Klipschorns are C-style, I'm going to say something ridiculous about the C-style sounding better. And you're right. I think the C-style Klipschorns sound better. The B-style has always sounded like it has a notch in the middle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverSport Posted March 24, 2006 Share Posted March 24, 2006 ...right where the music should be...[]I have "C" models too, but not NEAR as nice as the Parrot's...sweeeet! Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meagain Posted March 24, 2006 Share Posted March 24, 2006 I think I prefer the C to the B. Cleaner, smoother, more Zen. Actually, I'd love decorators if I could find them. Just put a lid/sides on it. I saw a pic of one painted white in a modern decor'd environment. Looked killer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrench722 Posted March 24, 2006 Share Posted March 24, 2006 Have you just tryed to put a spacer under the back side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAKO Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 Parrot.....Did,nt your mother cut notch,s in your ears to be able to tell the difference between you & your evil twinn ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Cornell Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 I had type C and type B in the same room at one time. I will be honest other than looks there was no difference in sound, in comparing the two designs. The type B was the overall top model of the Klipschorn. Type D, type C type B, Also the type B was 2 piece which made moving them easier. The 1 inch drop to me would'nt be worth taking out. Regards Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverSport Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 Type "C"s are also 2 piece...just don't have the little "riser"...Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-Man Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 I may have waited too long to buy more 2404H tweeters. I just tried to order three more of them and the order showed three 2404H-1 tweeters for $265.00 each. Performance Audio sent me an email saying that the new 2404H-1 tweeters are the same as the 2404H. Before I believe that, I need find a spec. sheet on the 2404 h-1's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnysal Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 I may have waited too long to buy more 2404H tweeters. I just tried to order three more of them and the order showed three 2404H-1 tweeters for $265.00 each. Performance Audio sent me an email saying that the new 2404H-1 tweeters are the same as the 2404H. Before I believe that, I need find a spec. sheet on the 2404 h-1's. huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-Man Posted April 1, 2006 Share Posted April 1, 2006 I may have waited too long to buy more 2404H tweeters. I just tried to order three more of them and the order showed three 2404H-1 tweeters for $265.00 each. Performance Audio sent me an email saying that the new 2404H-1 tweeters are the same as the 2404H. Before I believe that, I need find a spec. sheet on the 2404 h-1's. huh? I ment to post this in the topic,"What is the best tweeter" I also thought that I deleated this????????? Since I have your attention, I never should have sold you the 2 JBL tweeters. I just bought 3 more new ones. I had to get two 2404H-1's and one 2404H, because they stopped making the 2404H. The 2404H-1's are the same, but are being assembled from all the left over parts from their parts department. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGuy Posted April 9, 2006 Share Posted April 9, 2006 Back in 1976 when I bought my K-C-FR Khorns I did so because the top of the line the K-B-WO was $ 350.00 more,each. It was and still is terrific speaker. Time goes and we decide to make it look like the B style. To physically put in the spacers and trim plus refinish the two speakers cost $ 205.00 They look terrific now and there was no change in sound. It also made my wife happy. I do suggest, keep the B style, you will not notice any improvement in sound but could ruin the looks of this horn. Norm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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