edwinr Posted October 30, 2006 Author Share Posted October 30, 2006 Zingali use a combination of compression driver/horn-loading and bass reflex woofer(s) to give their speaker line very high sensitivity. Toulipiè wood is used for the horn and other parts of the speaker. Seen in the photo is the Butterfly .3 (left) and Butterfly .2 (right). Nice... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinr Posted October 30, 2006 Author Share Posted October 30, 2006 Rarely seen. Most folks don't even know about it. Sadly, never reviewed... the B&W Emphasis speaker! It uses B&W's Kelvar bass/midrange driver and of course their metal domed tweeter. All this came about while B&W were playing around with the Nautilus idea... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinr Posted October 30, 2006 Author Share Posted October 30, 2006 Developed by Paul W. Klipsch in 2001, this dual 12-inch loudspeaker system couples the horn-loaded woofers with the KPT-402-MF mid-bass Tractrix Horn coupled to the Klipsch K-1133 two-inch exit titanium compression driver. The high frequencies are easily handled by the KPT-Grand-HF-T Tractrix Horn. Now I wonder how popular this system would be if it was dressed up for consumer sale... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinr Posted October 30, 2006 Author Share Posted October 30, 2006 Whew! I'm tired. On the Jubulee note, I'm hitting the sack. Goodnight from me, and goodnight from Kate... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxg Posted October 31, 2006 Share Posted October 31, 2006 German loudspeaker manufacture Duevel specializes in designing and manufacturing unique full-range horn units. This design is said to provide full 360o radiation of the drivers to provide a precise and full room soundstage. An interesting 2 way horn design... That Dueval is not a horn loaded speaker. It is a speaker design based on sound reflection and those wooden cones are there for that purpose. Positioning them in the room is tricky to get a soundstage but once done you can revolve them on the spot without affecting the soundstage at all. Sonically they are amazing when properly driven - they were about the best in show at last year's High End gathering in Athens. They would be in my top 10. For reference my top ten is as follows (I think). 1. Avantgarde Trio. 2. Tannoy Westminster. 3. Khorn. 4. The big Maggies (model 20?) 5. The Dueval above. 6. B&W 802N (not the D - and not the 801 - too hard to drive). 7. Triangle Magellan (the smaller one - not the full tower). 8. Final 0.3 (cheap speaker - bloody expensive amplification - horrid impedance curve - down to 1.1 ohm - blissful sound when driven properly). 9. The large Cain and Cain speaker (again from last year's high end show - stunning but with some bass problems that might or might not have been room related so there is an * on this one). 10. Belle / LaScala / RF7 depending on my mood and the demands of the music (note - the Belle and LaScala are the only speakers in this list that I feel really need a sub so they fall to 10th on this basis. If I were to accept the sub as an option my list might look very different. Hell - even my home built speakers might make the top 15 if not the top 10 but as they are matched with a $4000 sub that is really not fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groomlakearea51 Posted October 31, 2006 Share Posted October 31, 2006 Up to about 140 on the combined list; there are possible duplicates, etc. Question? Since it's beginning to slow down (except for those pesky glitches that keep "popping" up), should there be a review of what everyone has posted and forum members do a "final" vote , say, over the weekend? Possible Categories: Overall Best; Best Bass Response; Best "presence"; Best "Thwack" Potential; Best Price For What You Get; Best Appearance; Ugliest; Strangest; Others? Todays crop as of 6:00 AM Florida Swamp Time: 1. Acoustic Energy AE1 MkIII's 2. Advantegarde Trios 3. AE1 4. Allison Ones 5. Altec 19 6. Altec AlNiCo 604 7. Altec Voice of the Theatre 8. ATC SCM 50 9. Avalon Eidolon Diamond 10. Avantegarde Trio 11. Avantgarde Duo 12. Avantgarde Trio. 13. B&W 801 14. B&W 802D 15. B&W 802N 16. B&W Emphasis 17. B&W N800 18. B&W Nautilus 19. Bard by Loth_x 20. BB5/XBD stacked array 21. BBC LS3/5a 22. Bonneville 650s 23. Bose 901 24. Bosendorfer AC7E 25. Bozak Concert Grand 26. Cain 27. CarfraeHORN. 28. Dahlquist DQ_10s 29. DL_15/Bs 30. Duevel 31. Duntechs 32. Dynaco A25 33. Dynacos 34. Dynaudio C4 35. Dynaudio Conyour S 5.4's 36. Dynaudio Evidence Master 37. Dynaudio Master 38. Dynaudio Temptation 39. Dynaudio's Evidence Temptation 40. Edgarhorn Titan 41. electronluv 42. Eliptica 43. ESS AMT 44. Final 0.3 45. Final Sound_1000_i 46. Gallo Reference 3's 47. Genesis Technologies II.5 48. Grand Monument Reference 49. Grand SLAMM X1's 50. Gryphon Technologies Poseidon 51. Harbeth Monitor 40 52. Infinity Reference Standard I A/B. 53. Innersound Kaya 54. innersound2 55. JBL 4311 56. JBL 4312 57. JBL 4313 58. JBL 4350 59. JBL 4430/ 4435 60. JBL Everest 61. JBL K2 62. JBL L100 63. JBL L166 64. JBL L200 65. JBL L_7 66. JBL4535 67. JM Lab Focal Grande Utopia 68. Joseph Audio Pearl 69. KEF 105 70. KEF B139 woofers 71. Kharma Grande Ceramique 72. Kharma Reference 1A 73. KL_650 74. Klipsch Belle 75. Klipsch Cornwall 76. Klipsch Heresy 77. Klipsch Jubilee 78. Klipsch KPT_Grand_HF_T 79. Klipsch LaScala 80. Klipsch RB5 81. Klipsch RF_7 82. Klipsch RF_83 83. Klipschorn 84. Klipschorn 60th Anniversary 85. Large Advent Loudspeaker 86. Legacy Whisper 87. Living Voice Airscout 88. Loth_X Audio Amaze 89. Loth_z Amaze 90. M&K S150 satellite 91. Maggies (model 20?) 92. Magnaplanar 20.1 93. Magnepan MG20.1 94. Magnepan MGLR1 95. Martin Logan Summit 96. Martin Logan Vantage 97. Martin Logans (aerius) 98. mbl 101D Radialstrahler 99. McIntosh_XRT2K_3 100. Meridian DSP8000 101. Midi_Grand_Ceramique GRCe_M_0, 102. Nearfield Pipedreams 103. NHT 104. NOLA Grand Reference IV 105. Oheocha D2 Saturn 106. Opera Audio Consonance M12 Barque 107. Paradigm S8 108. Quad "57" electrostatics (I finally have acquired a pair of these) 109. Quintessence Acoustics Stealth 110. R312's Cerwin Vega 111. Reference R909 112. Revel Salon2's 113. Rockport Technologies Hyperion 114. Royal Device Audio 115. Sonus Faber Amati Homage anniversario 116. Sound Fusion Hyperion 117. Stradivari Homage 118. Summit 119. SuperCustom19k 120. Tannoy Westminister 121. The Infinite Wisdom Grande 122. The Meridian DSP8000 123. Thiel CS3.7 124. Thiel CS7Bowers 125. Totem 126. Totem Arro 127. Triangle 128. Triangle Magellan 129. Veritas V2.4i 130. VOTT 131. Wharfedale 132. Wharfedale W_70 133. Wilkins 800 Signature 134. Wisdom Alexandria X2 135. Wisdom Audio Sophia 136. Wisdom Grand SLAMM X1's 137. Wisdom WITT 138. Zephyr 139. Zingali Butterfly .3 140. Zu Definition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DizRotus Posted October 31, 2006 Share Posted October 31, 2006 Those Duevel speakers remind me of the first "stereo" system I ever heard in 1967. It was a Zenith "Circle of Sound" system that was mostly plastic with each speaker consisting of a small (4"-5"?) "full range" driver firing topward a cone to disperse the reflected sound 360 degrees. The fidelity of the system was no match for my father's DIY Heathkit tube and bass-reflex mono system, but the fact that they were 2-channel made them impressive. By today's standards, most clock radios would sound better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinr Posted November 1, 2006 Author Share Posted November 1, 2006 The Avantgarde Solo is a horn loaded speaker system, merely 18 inches in diameter by 17 inches deep. And within this volume the Solo also contains a 250 watt power amp to drive the whole speaker system. You can put it anywhere in a room and it will do fine (in a corner, against a wall, facing down from the ceiling, free standing, etc.). But beware this little guy weighs in at 84 pounds... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinr Posted November 1, 2006 Author Share Posted November 1, 2006 The 805 S is the only 'bookshelf' model in the 800 series but just as in the dearer speakers, build and sound quality is 1st rate. This is a remarkably good sounding small speaker and one that has suprising dynamics and bottom end response for its size... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinr Posted November 1, 2006 Author Share Posted November 1, 2006 Check out this Signature version. Yum... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinr Posted November 1, 2006 Author Share Posted November 1, 2006 JM Labs statement loudspeaker. The Grand Utopia is one of two or three models that compete for the best speaker in the world tag. Many reviewers from differnent parts of the world have laid the 'best speaker they have ever heard' wreath at the feet of this imposing loudspeaker. Finish pictured: Avant-garde... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinr Posted November 1, 2006 Author Share Posted November 1, 2006 At 1/10th the price of it's big brother the baby of the Utopia range is small in size but not in performance as those who have heard it can attest. These speakers use the same drive units found throughout the rest of the Utopia Be line. Their fantastic clarity and imaging are remarked upon by all those who hear these loudspeakers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinr Posted November 1, 2006 Author Share Posted November 1, 2006 Hands up those that knew Krell made speakers! Top of the line in the Resolution range, the '1' is a mighty speaker with tremendous power handling and incredible clarity and detail. Build quality is also first class, as you would expect for speakers in this price bracket. All speakers come in just the one very high quality finish - cherry... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinr Posted November 1, 2006 Author Share Posted November 1, 2006 The best speaker Wilson Audio knows how to make. The Alexandria X2. I just wish Wilson Audio would do something about the looks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinr Posted November 1, 2006 Author Share Posted November 1, 2006 This is the best speaker Dalis knows how to make. The just released Megaline is huge, but is only 2 way and is based on a vertical array of bass/midrange units alongside a 2nd array of planar dipole tweeters... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinr Posted November 1, 2006 Author Share Posted November 1, 2006 And now for something completely different- the successor to the cult CL 330 loudspeaker now features state-of-the-art German long throw drive units allowing the new 330.3 JET to be used in larger rooms. This loudspeaker is provided with the legendary JET tweeter and new LLD woofers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinr Posted November 1, 2006 Author Share Posted November 1, 2006 Something else a bit different. The nOrh 9.0 with it's construction influenced by the shape and materials used to realize the traditional Thai drums. This leads to aesthetically pleasing and intriguing loudspeakers with cabinets that are incredibly solid, with benefits for sound cleanness and intelligibility - the cabinet is sculpted from a marble block, and is 5 cm thick! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxg Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 Ed, I think you have been going through the stock rooms of all my local audio suppliers!!! OK - in just about the order you posted them: The Avantgarde Solo. In some ways the most interesting and integrated of all the Avantgarde speakers - very much in the dual concentric tradition of Tannoy. Sadly the result - to my ears - does not match the expectation on paper and in the flesh. These speakers - to my mind - bring a new definition to the word harsh. They are brick bats of a transducer not helped (IMO) by the integrated amp that limits what you can do to soften the result. I am sure you can do a lot with good selection of a tube pre-amp - I have just not yet heard it work satisfactory. My summary of this speaker when I came across it was - great to have to listen to one night per week - but not for everyday use for music. If, however, your tastes run to surround sound and movies then matching these with a bass horn from avantgarde would give probably the best home cinema experience available. JMLab: I have lost count of how many times I have heard their giant speaker. Always in a gigantic room and always slightly underwhelming. They are good - no doubt about it but for the money they command I think you can get a whole lot better. I would not choose these over KHorns let alone the Trio or the Westminster. I have never met a smaller JMLab I liked at all. Elac: Fun technology - not good sound to these ears. Wonderfully small and cast a large image despite that - but no banana. Not in my top 50 list. Other than that I dont recall if anyone mentioned Spendor or Harbath to date on this thread. Sonically not dissimilar although the Harbath is the better to my ears. If it is a sound you like (very different from the Klipsch sound) the latter is possibly best audiophile return for your buck fodder. Very managable size too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinr Posted November 1, 2006 Author Share Posted November 1, 2006 Matthew Polk says about his LSi: "The LSi is for a serious listener; the person who really enjoys music, who sits down and really intently listens to his stereo system. Maybe this person already owns Polk Audio speakers, or has owned Polk speakers in the past, and has always felt that they wanted something 'tweakier.' This person could be a serious home theater enthusiast, too. They want to hear every detail a movie soundtrack has to offer. There's no question these speakers play loud, but new high-definition audio formats like Super Audio CD and DVD-Audio demand a new level of performance. The LSi is for the listener who is more interested in quality over quantity." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Spinner Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 more ..Glitch ...!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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