InVeNtOr Posted May 25, 2008 Share Posted May 25, 2008 okay guys, if by some miracle i can get the complete rf-7 pkg (not sub) would a pair of rs-52's go well with that system? i plan on having a 7.1 system and putting the rs-7's behind the couch. the only kink in getting that pkg is i may have to go separates because i am unsure the pioneer with only 130w will be enough, but i could be wrong. thanks again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brac Posted May 25, 2008 Share Posted May 25, 2008 Your not sure if 130w is enough to power klipsch speakers? What am I missing here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Traveler Posted May 25, 2008 Share Posted May 25, 2008 I would think the RS-52 could work better than no surrounds at all, but I would try to get something larger to keep up with the RF-7s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistedcrankcammer Posted May 25, 2008 Share Posted May 25, 2008 Inventor, I don't know about the compatabillity question that you are asking. I wish I could have emailed you directly. Nothing is wrong with Pioneer, but does your Receiver have outputs so it can be used as a pre amp for a sepperate amp?? 130 watts per channel RMS is fine. The main reason for larger amps is for the headroom. If your receiver has pre outs, why not talk to your local audio retailer and see if you can demo something like the Sunfire that you like to see if you think a seperate amp will make a big enough differance to you. I find that on music it is much more noticable, but as you are mostly movies, the sound tracks can be so buisy that I don't know if you will notice the differance as much. Anyhow, a suggestion on a smaller budget is to demo a unit or two for free to see if it really works for your situation, then possibly buy used. ADCOM made some really good units model 5500 which is 200 watts per channel times two channels and a companion, the 5503 which is 200 watts RMS times 3 channels. These amps were arround $1200 to $1400 each when new, and you can buy both models for between $400 to $500 each, closer to $400 each in nice shape on ebay. You would end up with 3 big impressive looking and sounding amps for $1200 to $1500 total, but demo some amps to see what you think before jumping in. Proffesionals usually use three times the power the speakers are rated at. My Cornerhorns are rated at 100 watts RMS each and 400 watts peak. A 130 watt amp is going to go flat and never give 400 watts peak out of your reciever. You also are not driving the amps hard at listening levels, and the Adcoms come with a clip circut and led for each channel that will show you how loud you can go before you are distorting your speakers. It is distortion, not wattage that blows speakers. Best of luck with your prodject... Roger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistedcrankcammer Posted May 25, 2008 Share Posted May 25, 2008 Brac, I use an ADCOM GFA-565 mono block at 300 watts RMS x one channel on my center LaScala, and Nakamichi PA-7IIs at 225 watts RMS on all my Cornerhorns. I promise you that you will hear a differance with a better amp, and more head room. Roger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InVeNtOr Posted May 25, 2008 Author Share Posted May 25, 2008 well maybe the rs-62 would be a better choice. the pioneer does has outlets for an amp. that was another reason for me to buy it now. in the future when i have more money i can invest in a good 3 channel amp or maybe a 2 channel and 1 channel. this way i can use the equipement now. i would also have to save up for the crossover upgrade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darylomer12 Posted May 25, 2008 Share Posted May 25, 2008 I have had the RS-52's with RF-7's and they sound fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWL Posted May 25, 2008 Share Posted May 25, 2008 the only kink in getting that pkg is i may have to go separates because i am unsure the pioneer with only 130w will be enough, but i could be wrong. The 130wpc from the Pioneer will be fine to get you started.........but in the future for the RF-7's.....you'll definitely want a 300-500 watt amp to power them. It is then they will really shine and you'll fall in love with them all over again. [] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWL Posted May 25, 2008 Share Posted May 25, 2008 I find that on music it is much more noticable, but as you are mostly movies, the sound tracks can be so buisy that I don't know if you will notice the differance as much Good point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddvj Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 Your Pioneer will be fine to power them. The RS-52's will be fine for surrounds. I still have RS-3's (series 1) for surrounds, and I'm happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InVeNtOr Posted May 26, 2008 Author Share Posted May 26, 2008 i was doing some research.....what is your opinion on this matter: my receiver choice is pioneer elite vsx-92txh which receiver is better than that one? onkyo tx-sr875 or onkyo tx-sr805 i think the 805 is more of a comparision but i can get the 875 for the same price as the elite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psg Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 Should you go the RF-7 route, the limitation with using almost any receiver is that the Rf-7 has an impedence dip to below 4 ohms (I don't recall how low). This is a difficult load for typical receivers. Klipschorns are much easier to drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Traveler Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 I have no experience with the Onkyo AVRs and am curious how they are going to work out in the long term for Klipsch owners and how they compare with the Denon upper end units. That being said, the Onkyos both weighs 25% more than the Pioneer and is THX ultra II certified. I feel the THX ultra II requirement that AVRS/amps drive speakers with dips down to 3.2 Ohms helps my Home Theater (listed below), but I don't know how my Denon AVR 4806 compares to the Onkyo except it is considerably more expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InVeNtOr Posted May 26, 2008 Author Share Posted May 26, 2008 would denon be a better choice than pioneer or onkyo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 I have the 805, you should get it and save some money over the other two, and you can put more towards getting your 7's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InVeNtOr Posted May 26, 2008 Author Share Posted May 26, 2008 i was looking at that one or the 875. the only spec that i see that should make a difference is the onkyo has a .05 thd and the pioneer is .09thd. which is better at video or will they be the same? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 Well as long as you use HDMI in to HDMI out, the video will remain untouched, which is what I use for my PS3 and Xbox 360, and I have my HD DVR directly into the tv. This is because the 805 will downconvert a 1080i signal to 720p when it is output via HDMI. Not to sure on the Elites cause I haven't looked into them much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 Should you go the RF-7 route, the limitation with using almost any receiver is that the Rf-7 has an impedence dip to below 4 ohms (I don't recall how low). This is a difficult load for typical receivers. Klipschorns are much easier to drive. I wouldn't think that this would be an issue in a HT environment when you crossover at 60 to 80 Hz. Full range would be another story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psg Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 Should you go the RF-7 route, the limitation with using almost any receiver is that the Rf-7 has an impedence dip to below 4 ohms (I don't recall how low). This is a difficult load for typical receivers. Klipschorns are much easier to drive. I wouldn't think that this would be an issue in a HT environment when you crossover at 60 to 80 Hz. Full range would be another story. I don't know at what frequency the dip occurs. I also would not run out to buy an RF-7 to run it as small, specially for stereo music applications, but that is a personnal choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 I run my RF-7's large for 2ch with the sub off. For HT, I run them small with the THX crossover at 80 HZ. I assumed (bad habit) that the OP was referring to HT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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