Daddy Dee Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 Jay, I think your're right about customer expectations. gas at $4 seems to be changing expectations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fini Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 It was $4.50 yesterday for me...at Costco! I had a 1984 4-cylinder 2WD Yoyota PU, and I never got over 25 MPG. I think pauln's linked chart might be a little off...I have heard that those old VW diesel PUs converted to biodiesel are real economical. I haven't looked into that technology at all. I'll tell you, I can't wait for a small hybrid PU that gets, maybe 35-40 MPG. It doesn't have to carry all that much, for me, but things like a fold-down rack (for less wind drag when not carrying lumber or ladders) would be nice. Mostly, I just need to carry hand tools, skilsaw, cords, etc. The lower-emissions of today's vehicles is a worthy trade-off for a little fewer mpg, IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brac Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 If better milage was really gonna make the planet warmer, I'd call that a Win-Win. Maine winters are too damn cold!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJkizak Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 Jeff Mathews: No, I did these adjustments myself on a 1978 buick skyhawk v6 and reset the factory timing up about to the pinging point then backed it down a hair.The milage jumped up (highway 600 mile trip) from 21 to 32 mpg. And on small block Corvettes (1969, 1970, 1971, 1974, 1976, 1977, 1978, which jumped the milage up from about 16/17 to 24/25 highway. Around town you could get around 15 and worse if you tried hard. Also did the same on a 1976 buick full size with a v6. The problem with new vehicles is the computer is in full control of the timing and if the engine starts to get too hot (240 F) the computer backs the timing down to compensate and horsepower and milage go out the window. The latest Corvettes do this also to protect the engine from pinging but with high compression, reverse coolant flow, dry sump and a normal temp of 240 F. the engines run hotter than a popcorn fart and with computer control can squeeze out 25 mpg with these setups. To run the Vette setup with a regular 4 banger isn't economically viable, yet. JJK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksonbart Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 How hot is a popcorn fart? 220 F? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJkizak Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 It depends on how much beer you mix with the popcorn. I would have to say 125F at the exit point. JJK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryC Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 One has to wonder if we've been building high MPG cars cheap, which has been done for decades, why aren't these cars available right now. Slowly but surely?? http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/15/AR2008051503023.html. Interesting effects, maybe, of high gas prices. Europe has shown more will than the US. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fini Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 It depends on how much beer you mix with the popcorn. I would have to say 125F at the exit point. JJK ..cooling rapidly as it goes from a gas to a liquid... I know...EEEWWWWW! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 Popcorn fart??? Is that the gas expelled from a kernel of popcorn as it pops or an anal expulsion after an evening of dining on Sir Orvells" finest? I would think that the former would be hotter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJkizak Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 I just saw a news special where they were popping popcorn with three cell phones in use, the corn being in the center of a triangle of cell phones and the RF emitted was popping the corn. JJK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Matthews Posted June 19, 2008 Author Share Posted June 19, 2008 I just saw a news special where they were popping popcorn with three cell phones in use, the corn being in the center of a triangle of cell phones and the RF emitted was popping the corn. JJK I heard about that one. Also heard it was fake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksonbart Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 My corvette has popcorn farts for sure (well I should clearify the engine temp is 220F on average) so at the exhaust the temp would be 120F? I think cornels pop under 120 F? Right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauln Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 1998 article about oil predicts today pretty well - 80 million barrels per day peak, the Saudi purchases of US skyscrapers, and the emergence of goofy ideas for what to put in the fuel tank. 1998 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Matthews Posted June 19, 2008 Author Share Posted June 19, 2008 Dang, those crazy left-wing kooks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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