kev313 Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 Howdy guys (and girls?)...been a while since I stopped by. New job has been keeping me busy (not to mention a 1 and 3 yr. old). Hope everyone's summer was great. Anyway, I read the following regarding price hikes on the 'gonon the Asylum and thought it would be of interest here. Apologies if it has been mentioned. Cut and pasted from Audio Asylum: --- It had been $6 to post a classified ad, and that was it. Now it is $4 to post, but they then add a fee of 1.5% of the selling price. For a fairly ordinary $1,000 piece of equipment that hikes the Audiogon cost from $6 to $19. That's an increase of over 200%. A $2,000 item would cost $34 to sell so the rate hike gets more onerous as the cost of the item increases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hifi jim Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 Hey Kev, good to see you back. I just checked Audiogon and you are correct. Wow! That is robbery, and worse, I had paid $18 in advance for three ads, and now that can only be applied to the new fees. Craziness, Audiogon, eBay and PayPal fees are driving me nuts. What next? Craigslist will start charging? $4 plus 1.5% is really sticking it to us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksonbart Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 increased fees and vinyl sucks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wpines Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 1) increases are increases but they made too big of a jump. 2) what are the alternative sites ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hifi jim Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 1) increases are increases but they made too big of a jump. 2) what are the alternative sites ? 1) Originally Audiogon was $1.50 per ad if I remember correctly, I thought the jump to $6 from $3 was robbery. Adding a seller's fee based on percentage is [bs]. It cost them no more to list an expensive item than it does an inexpensive one. Combine that with their complete lack of buyers protection and what are we paying for? 2) Hi Fi Jim's Audio Bonanza, coming soon! [] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wpines Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 Betcha that the number of listings drop and asking prices go up. I just decided to not list 2 components there. Doe's HiFi Jim's Audio Bonanza need an angel investor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hifi jim Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 Doe's HiFi Jim's Audio Bonanza need an angel investor? An investor, an IT guy and I need me one of them slick marketing guys who will inevitably tell me to start charging more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djk Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't fleaBay close to 10% now (with listing fees, photos, commission, and NOW mandatory PaPal)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vman71 Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 Three other alternative sites are: 1. Audio Circle 2. Audio Asylum 3. AudioXsell I'm very happy about a site that will be coming on-line in the next few months from an individual that I know. He's a brilliant software/coding developer and has been disgusted with Audiogon for some time now (as most people are). He has told me about his new site and it sounds awesome! It's going to be free and not be controlled the way that Audiogon is. I'll be sure to provide the link when the site officially comes on-line. I stand with others on my hatered and disgust for Audiogon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerwoodKhorns Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 Three other alternative sites are: 1. Audio Circle 2. Audio Asylum 3. AudioXsell I'm very happy about a site that will be coming on-line in the next few months from an individual that I know. He's a brilliant software/coding developer and has been disgusted with Audiogon for some time now (as most people are). He has told me about his new site and it sounds awesome! It's going to be free and not be controlled the way that Audiogon is. I'll be sure to provide the link when the site officially comes on-line. I stand with others on my hatered and disgust for Audiogon. "Hatred and disgust for Audiogon" Why? I love the site and have bought and sold many items there. The rate hike is too much for a "classifieds" site, but what other factors don't you like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seti Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 Audiogon has been good for me on buying and selling. But this really sucks. The cost will only get past down to the buyer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest " " Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 Well, at least they don't mandate paypal. Rate hikes of this scaling are difficult to grasp in my mind. Audiokarma has a classfied section, maybe it's time to look into that. Anyone have details? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cut-Throat Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 Why not use the Klipsch Garage Sale Forum or Audio Asylum - They are both free. I would like to see this put Audiogon out of business for their greed. Hopefully this will backfire on them. I am going to do my part and not buy anything from Audiogon anymore! - That's it for me! EDIT : I just checked Audigon's Website and their fees are still listed at $6. Not sure what to believe. Maybe they had so many complaints that they backed off. Or maybe they were 'Swiftboated'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest " " Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 I just checked and the listing fee is $4. If the item sells, there's a 1% fee. New fee structurePlease note: Starting September 27th 2008, Audiogon fees for sellers have changed. We have lowered the listing fee and added a "transaction fee" when the item sells. Basic listing Fee: $4.00 (applies whether item sells or not) Transaction Fee: +1.00% of sale price (applies only if item sells) These fees vary based on your Account Type (more info) I agree to pay the above fees and any outstanding balance monthly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cut-Throat Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 They have not updated their seller guide yet then: Private Users trading inpersonal gear.Private parties may register, bid, and buy for free. Listings items for sale involves a fee. Registration Free Bidding Free Use of MyPage Free Wanted ads $6.00 each Classified Ad $6.00 each Auction Listing $6.00 each Sales Commission None Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebes Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 Of course fees are going up on Agon and Ebay. Jeez have you seen the price of Internet Gasoline lately? Some say it's temporary because of the shutdown of the refineries in the Gulf, and sure many claim the internet is full of gas, hot air, what have you. Well our company has been in this business for many years now . What with Arab sheiks, Green regulations and other impediments to exploration and production a modest increase in fees is more than justified and will be immediately plowed back into opening up new Internet Gas fields in formerly pristine areas off our seacoasts. Thus the American solution will be met with American gas. Slimy Greendog President Amalgamated Internet Gas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seti Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 I work down at the Internet. It’s a good job. I work hard, liftin’ thingsand hollerin’. The pooter-woops what twist on the dials allknow me by name and stuff. But they don’t let me have aputer, cuz I’m new. But when I get one it will be one ofthose with the little TV on top. I asked my boss what wouldhappen if someone stuck their hand in the router when all thedata was pourin’ down it. He didn’t tell me, he juststared at me cuz I’m new. I like doing all this science andlearnin’. I learned that you could be suspended foreatin’ peanut butter and stuff in the control room. Ilearned that once. And other things too. The Internet is good because we get electricityand magnets from it. And my cousin gets dirty pictures from ittoo. But he’s real good with computers. He’s prettysmart. I got hired on here at the Internet about 3 weeks ago. Itsa purdy big building. Almost as big as a grocery store. You canorder groceries on the Internet and get books and songs and stuffand paste for you house. Or tape. They say they made the Internet thirty yearsago so it wouldn’t get blown up. But they don’t let thearmy use it any more. I know a guy who found out how to blow-upthings on the Internet, but the only thing he ever blew up washis hand. He works at the feed store now. The internet-stocks arestill up because they are so high. My brother bought stock inYahoo at $5 a share. It’s at $400 a share now. But he soldit when it was at $6. He doesn’t like it when I talk aboutthe Internet. I have seven trucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakedmb Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 This is the fee list that I see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vman71 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Three other alternative sites are: 1. Audio Circle 2. Audio Asylum 3. AudioXsell I'm very happy about a site that will be coming on-line in the next few months from an individual that I know. He's a brilliant software/coding developer and has been disgusted with Audiogon for some time now (as most people are). He has told me about his new site and it sounds awesome! It's going to be free and not be controlled the way that Audiogon is. I'll be sure to provide the link when the site officially comes on-line. I stand with others on my hatred and disgust for Audiogon. "Hatred and disgust for Audiogon" Why? I love the site and have bought and sold many items there. The rate hike is too much for a "classifieds" site, but what other factors don't you like? I do like the site as well, however, I do stand by my hatred and disgust over their outrageous hike in fees. It also stems from their communist screening/controlling of what does and what does not get posted. I would agree that some things should not be allowed but again, they go way too far. One example, they will not allow posts that do not monetarily their site, the key word/emphasis being monetarily. Hence, you can't openly discuss their outrageous fee hikes and the fact that they will arbitrarily take down your adds that have more than one item and you'll see others that have 5, 10,15 items go untouched. I could provide more examples but I think that I've made my point. Oh, and another thing, 4-8 to get a post up (whether initial or a reply) is ridiculous! I do think it WAS one of the best site's to buy and sell, however, it's quickly becoming the place to avoid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cut-Throat Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 I'm not sure how they will implement and enforce this. Put up an ad for $4 and then your item 'doesn't sell' - You just happen to make a deal offline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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