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I am positive mine are, slow but steady is better for me these days. (with breaks) If they don't like this speed they surely won't like the other. Anyway no one ever complains to volunteer help, he always helps everyone and it's the least I could do. Plus he let us stay there and cooked every night and there was a party till late.

I was listening to a little zz top when 4yr old daughter comes and says " daddy I want to listen to my music" . So now I have a pair of jamborees playing wheels on the bus, ring around the rosey, this old man, and other top 10 hits for 4yr old children!! Hope my jamborees don't revolt and take off running!, LOL!!! Looks like it is time to put her a system together for her room. Maybe some small book shelf speakers to start.

Is that what the retired folk call it now a days?

Here's a vintage car model as I described earlier. Completely passive. Dave

Good morning!

Good morning, everyone. Up early, coffee on, Buddy walking himself.

Nope I would probably blow myself up, but wasn't opposed to sipping some someone else made, and it was smooth.

OK back on track, kind of, this is the swamp cooler I was talking about that was used. ( It did have a cable to plug it in so it counts here ) And everyone was right, at certain times it cooled, especially if you were right in front of it. Other times as soon as you walked in the building you could feel it, just depended on the outside humidity I guess, either way it adds humidity. Yes that's a truckload of corn we cleaned

Guys, I had a 55 Ford with rotten floorboards. When you drove through a puddle it would actually spray up on you in the car. Would that qualify as a swamp cooler? I was only 16 at the time and learned quickly that this feature was NOT a good way to start a date.

Looks like I have used my like quota up twice today Hot humid bike ride with LF. Wonder if that's all the exercise she will want today Hit my friend Pete up for free drinks at the Vanguard Lounge in Vegas

Well, if they worked for you, cool...appropriately. Hard for me to imagine though. The "swamp" designation has to do with what it makes a high humidity place into if you use one. Off course, you guys can have quite dry air in August as well. Dave Was extremely hot & humid in the Mississippi Delta; some ocean breeze on the Gulf. You need to be directly under in the Delta & very near on the Gulf.

You see a version of them on the sidelines at football games as well. Misters work well outside in the Deep South, too...

Morning Gang Swampcoolers and canvas bags, remember them all. Coffee should be done, fires ragin everywhere, normal. Farm run today, and cooler weather, i like it. Oh yeah, fresh bottle of the Duggans on site.

Not at all, Much less that a window open to the same degree. Air was slowed somewhat by having to push the water into the filters, then further quietened by passing through them. You really only needed what we used to call the "little window" open a bit, or just a couple of inches in a back window. to provide for a nice breeze.Very nice driving at 70 or so through Arizona! EDIT for nostalgia: Even better if listening to Wolfman Jack from XERF in Acuna. "Jist 3 dollah ninety eight cents, babeecakes foh 40 big hits!" Dave I have heard, that is how Ahern rental got their start. By renting out swamp coolers for the tourist coming down from the north.

You see a version of them on the sidelines at football games as well.

Not at all, Much less that a window open to the same degree. Air was slowed somewhat by having to push the water into the filters, then further quietened by passing through them. You really only needed what we used to call the "little window" open a bit, or just a couple of inches in a back window. to provide for a nice breeze. Very nice driving at 70 or so through Arizona! EDIT for nostalgia: Even better if listening to Wolfman Jack from XERF in Acuna. "Jist 3 dollah ninety eight cents, babeecakes foh 40 big hits!" Dave

I bet that car one is noisy.

To be on topic, above posts were lubricated with a cup of strong Peet's. Dave

Spent my last year in the Army at the unfortunately named "Ft. Bliss." The simplest form is the misting hose, found in the southwest at restaurants and bars with outside shade tables or places where people have to stand in line. They simply spray a really fog fine mist and can be awesome. Here is yer basic swamp cooler. Dave

Men don't grow up, they just grow older.

Anybody use evaporative cooling around there? Seems you'd be pretty dry in the summer. When I lived in El Paso evaporative was the preferred method as the humidity was often 10% or so and AC wasn't really comfortable without humidifying. I lived in a 1930s adobe structure with 22 inch walls inside and out, and a 10" rammed earth ceiling. Probably 900 sq ft or so and a single evaporative cooler kept it very nice. Dave I remember those swamp cooler's when I lived in El Paso. Me and the ex-wife, we lived on base. Good old Ft Bliss. That big fan would blow that nice cool air in our room......man that was a long time ago. MKP :-)

Search for Evaporative Cooler; Home Improvement stores sell them.

"An audiophile loves good sound and good music," he declared, "and strives to extract great sound from quality recordings in order to experience music to its fullest." Hard to argue with that. By the way you can skip most of the hardware aspect simply by getting ahold of some really righteous weed. However that route can lead to unintended consequences, so overall your are better off going after better hardware; a better medium like lps; and, a better grade of donuts, just in case you decide that righteous weed is a better route than a new $7000 preamp with $20k wires.

Early afternoon gang Back from farm run and great sandwich. Cooler day, so benchwork on Mr Crow is in order. BMs and tunes a little later

Is that what the retired folk call it now a days?

Maybe so! I know rubber floor mats on a car were handy. Just do not want your date to rely on them for support, in that case.

Morning gang.....just checking in... Been at the shop for a few hours...... Really nice day today, mid 80's.....not to humid..should be like this through the weekend. Got a good job today....timing belt on a Acura TL.... Good weather, good job, cranking the KP-362's.....oh yea... Wishing all a good day... MKP :-)

86 with fires/smoke today. Farmers Sandwich shop opens at 8, yeah baby, TurkeyClub for breakfast. Should get going, last cup :emotion-44:

Only been through Sacramento once but seemed it was desert like. Of course, it's right on the river...nice one, too. Can't help but wonder if it's still there... Of course, I guess it isn't far to the desert from there. Dave

Well, if they worked for you, cool...appropriately. Hard for me to imagine though. The "swamp" designation has to do with what it makes a high humidity place into if you use one. Off course, you guys can have quite dry air in August as well. Dave

Not in Houston, my friend. But I guess that isn't "Deep South." We could get some good use from them in the DFW area about this time of year if the Bermuda high was in place. I often put them around my AC heat exchangers outside. Dave Mississippi Delta & Pensacola Beach is where I've experienced them.

How did it work for you? You mentioned Roseville is more humid that I thought it was. Dave Swampcoolers just do not work well here, deserts hell yeah, any place that's dry they kick azz. In socal valley areas, some times they work, but not healthy for stereo goods or tooling.

Not in Houston, my friend. But I guess that isn't "Deep South." We could get some good use from them in the DFW area about this time of year if the Bermuda high was in place. I often put them around my AC heat exchangers outside. Dave

"First of all, don't make fun of the weather here, and don't say the weather is the same all the time here. Because it's not. In fact, it's two degrees colder today than yesterday." "Two degrees colder, me without my muff."

How did it work for you? You mentioned Roseville is more humid that I thought it was. Dave

I remember we had a 56 ford wagon with two of these "po mans" cooler.

Not familiar with that company, but that would have been a great idea. Have a point at either end of the dry zone of Route 66 to pick up and drop off those things. It's so blistering for northerners down there they'd probably go for it even with proof it worked. In my youth, you'd still see canvas water bags strapped on the front of cars out there. They were semi-waterproof. Enough would be allowed throw to evaporate in the wind which would provide both cool drinking water as well as emergency coolant in case of overheating...a real issue then. In El Paso, we also could buy Mexican porous water jars that did the same thing. Left in the shade with water outside it would be cool to drink. Dave

wish you were beautiful"

"Weather is here...

Nor would I want to.

Many have said it before and I will say it again, what a great forum as I continue to learn new things everyday. And here I always thought that an audiophile was a person who enjoys sex acts involving the ear.

You know Sancho, I should try to find a pic of one so, I will know more about what Dave was explain.

Have seen them around here in un-Air Conditioned, Open Air spaces, like body & auto shops. They are nice if you stand right in front of them.

Lol, if possible, that is where I would be found, in front.

In your climate, they are awful. Best at no more than 25 percent humidity. I don't think you see that very often. When I lived in El Paso I preferred it as AC made it much too dry. You have to have an inline humidifier with AC in the desert, which is sort of silly in a way as AC wrings out the humidity, then you put it back in. Dave Only been as far west as Vegas in September. About got sunburned there at Lake Meade as the sun was shining bright but, not much sweat. When I got back home, I was near soaked in sweat from the humidity going from the plane into the terminal. Need to rethink my minor understanding on the subject. Thanks!

How to do this without being too long winded? OK I used to be an audiophile. Two things have changed. The first is my hearing which is not what it was (50% hearing loss in my left ear over 10K, less in the right). Second is that I was at a friends house a few years back listening to my own copy of the Rach 3 (Ashkenazy / Previn / LSO, London recording) and as the second movement ended I queried whether he thought the amp was clipping at points. I realized I was no longer listening to the music but listening to the system. My favorite piece of music of all time had become a test piece. That was a shock. The cure was to move away from audiophilia for a while and to deliberately listen to lesser systems. At first it hurt but after a while I could focus on the music and after a longer while my brain filled in the missing parts, or improved the parts that weren't rendered so well. Now I can listen to any system with scant regard to what it is (ok within limits) and hear the music as my brain tells me it should be. I still appreciate a good system that presents the music well, but its no longer such a biggie as it was. I'm listening to music again, not systems. Its quite a relief.

During our after busy season party I had met a couple that named their sons Logan, Martin and Krell, then found out they named their daughters Maggie, Linn and Avalon; I suddenly realized that “they just might be audiophiles.”

Her own little system. Just as we had our own little portable record players as kids. Make sure she understands the responsibility.

Just walked outside to check...drenching wet now and sober but...cooler by far.

1. Large box device with squirrel cage fan, a water reservoir, and a pump. Three sides have filters the water is pumped up to and drains. Air is drawn through, cooled by about 15 degrees in low humidity, and the humidity of the outflow is much higher. That's why you've not seen one in Florida. Godawful place for them. 2. They exist because much of what AC does is reduce humidity. Last thing you want in the desert or very dry conditions. 3. Covered 4. The only cost is running the fan, much less than AC. And, yes, well before AC. There were also models you could roll up in a car window. The air was scooped in and part of it used to push water into the filters. Excellent in the desert. Haven't seen one in 40 years. Dave