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Just some more thoughts about this Jubilee thing. Maybe Klipsch could market a 'domestic' Jubilee as a genuine Klipschorn alternative for the dummies like me. Similar in finsh to the above Jubilee pic with PWK. The rest of you guys who like fiddling and tinkering can go down the diy path and continue to harrass poor 'ol Roy... []

I appreciate your considered replies to my post, guys. But somehow I think that some of you are punch drunk with people maybe unfairly (although in some cases maybe not) Jubilee bashing. I am not bagging the concept of the Jubilee. I would really like to embrace PWK's original Jubilee concept as it stands. But there are too many variables for someone like me to feel comfortable with - $7000+ is an awful lot of dollars to splash around on an untested product. I have noted that a number of Jubilee owners have come out and stated the good and bad points of Jubilee ownership. I thank them for their honesty. I would have been most upset buying a Jubilee in one of it's several manifestations and then have been disappointed in my listening room. Some may say "you don't have to buy it" or "the Jubilee as it stands is only for a select group of people" or other stuff like that. Well my response is, is that I believe PWK intended the Jubilee to be for everyone to take home and enjoy. I am convinced that someone with an obvious passion for audio like Klipsch's Chief Engineer would be ecstatic if he could slip a few more Jubilee's into people's homes. I would like to see a factory standard model, preferably with a simple passive cross-over network, reviewed by an independent audio journalist. Now that would be something to read. Speaking of PWK (with the utmost respect), I wonder how the Jubilee would have turned out if PWK finished the development. Or if Klipsch gave Roy a big enough budget to finish developing this speaker as a full on Klipsch home audio product. [] Anyhow, I can't help but drowl over this pic...

That's it, Rigma. Intentional or not, you've hit the head right on the nail. I remember from my class room days that any experiment conducted required a control or constant so that you can apportion some kind of validity to any findings. At least with the Klipschorn you have your control. The basic sound has been fairly constant for the last 60 years. This lends itself to those tweakers and experimenters who believe they can offer a 'better' sound be implementing one of their modiffications. You can always go back to the 'stock' sound and start again. When you lack any form of control or constant, which the Jubilee appears to lack, confusion and dissatisfaction can set in with those that have taken the plunge. This not to imply the current version of the Jubilee can't sound really good with a particular crossover/HFhorn/amplifier/room combination. It's just that there are too many cooks in the kitchen at the moment not following a recipe...

If you want honesty Greg, I think black grill cloth would look better.

Or an under done speaker to the market place...

When you get into such exalted territory of high end speakers, it's really hard to arbitarily say that one speaker is better than the other. It's so room, system and listener dependant. I heard some of the best vocals ever from my older Klipschorns. My 'replacement' Martin Logan Summits driven by a Mark Levinson amplifier didn't sound as good as the Klipschorns driven by a French 50 watt mid market solid state amplifier. But in another room the Martin Logans would probably kick butt. My current 2005 Belles combined with twin REL Strata 5 subwoofers - all driven by a single ended Audiio Note amplifier, is close to the best sound I have ever had in my listening room. The top to bottom coherency approaches that of the Klipschorn, but with much more extended bass. I still feel that the Klipschorn offers the better vocal reproduction. The way the Klipschorns projects vocals (especially on Choral music) is scary. I have yet to hear Klipschorns in my room driven by a really top end tube amplifier. Something to look forward to...

Merry Christmas...

Hmmm. Now that's looking very Belle like in an elongated sort of way. Which can't be a bad thing as the Belle Klipsch are my all time favorite looking floor standing speaker[]

The last time I made a comment about Jubilees, I received 'hate' mail. So I'll say nothing... [:|]

I love this picture of one of my Belles. The beautiful walnut grain really comes out in the light...

I'm in the market for a notebook too. I was thinking about the Toshiba L300 with the updated AMD processor and dedicated AMD graphics card. It's going for about $950 in Australia ($500 USA?). This machine isn't the fastest in the world, but the screen is brilliant and the build quality is up there with much more expensive machines. But spending a little more money gets you (and me) into Mac territory. My next door neighbor has just bought the latest MacBook with the 2.4GHz processor. This little beast comes with an LED backlit screen and an incredible aluminium alloy case. Stunning! My neighbor won't shut up about it. It's so bad now that every time I see him coming, I hide!!! Just kidding. The new MacBook is so fast and so impressive, I might just become an Apple convert myself. Here's a pic to drool over...

Hi, Rick. Thanks for your kind words. The lovely Amy (Sigh... ) lets me post here from time to time if I behave [A]. I'm sure our mutual feathered friend would love to hear from you.

That Belle is one stunning lady. It's exactly the same as my pair which I bought brand new one year ago this month. The longer I own them, the better they sound. Definitely one of the best speakers ever made by Klipsch - or any other manufacturer for that matter... []

I'm really sorry to hear the news. My sincere condolences to Oldbuckster's family...

You need to run the Belles full range - otherwise you'll waste what that beautiful horn loaded bass bin can do. Some buy subs and cross them over really high (80Hz). Instead buy a sub that extends down to 16Hz or so and experiment with a sub roll off starting around 30Hz. Some subs roll off nice and gradually so that by 45 to 50 Hz, when the Belles really start cooking, the sub has done most of the handover. The result is an incredibly smooth frequency response from the very lowest bass frequency all the way through to the treble. Avoid those subs that only go down to say, 30Hz or so. In some rooms and when pushed close to the wall or corners, (subjectively) the Belles nearly do that anyway. Subwoofers to look at include the SVS cylinder range and the RELs. I like the SVS PC13:

A high quality 2 channel system will do justice to both music and movies. Set up right, 2 speakers will give all the ambience and surround effects you could wish for when watching movies. What I have found is that with my former 5.1 systems, I tended to sacrifice the 2 channel sweet spot and ideal main speaker positoning for the 5.1 setup and compensated for poor main speaker postioning with the surround receiver and surround speakers options. The overall effect was quite good. But after tossing out the 5.1 system for a Klipsch based 2 channel system, and concentrating on main speaker postioning and general system tweaking, I find my current system is akin to wearing a giant pair of headphones. There is no need for more speakers and digital processing to get the best out of movies. The question to be asked "... is my current 2 channel system 'better' than my former 5.1 systems for watching movies?" The answer is, no. But it's just as good - and this is without the extra cables/equipment and expense of a quality 5.1 system. Grist for your mill, Bill...

Where's Elvis? He was mainly a singles artist, but some of his albums were definitive e.g. 'Elvis is Back', 'From Elvis in Memphis'...

My kids can't wait until I buy the DVD for Christmas...

You guys are very lucky to be able to audition the Heritage line in one place. At the moment Heritage speakers aren't even imported into Australia - there's no distributor... []

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????? Why are you bothering using the Parasound preamp, Tom? Hook straight into the MC275 and use its gain controls...

The new piano gloss finished P3-24 looks good...

This is my wife's list. She's 17 years younger than me so I guess she has a slightly more progressive outlook - but still relatively conservative, I guess... 1. Bright Eyes - Simon and Garfunkel 2. For Your Babies - Simply Red and most of his stuff 3. Love Today, My interpretation, Grace Kelly, Your Sympathy – Mika, everything by Mika 4. Bohemian Rhapsody, You’re My Best Friend, Killer Queen - Queen 5. Vincent - Don McLean 6. No One is to Blame - Howard Jones 7. Tropicalia - Beck 8. I Want You - Savage Garden 9. Lightning Crashes - Live 10. Creep – Radiohead

This is a list of songs I have ALWAYS liked. Not just the flavor of the month. The list really shows my age (52 years young last birthday) and conservative nature... 1. Hey Nineteen – Steely Dan 2. Avalon – Roxy Music 3. Fame and Fortune – Elvis 4. Lying Eyes – The Eagles 5. Castles in the Air – Don McLean 6. Don’t Worry Baby – Brian Wilson/Beach Boys 7. You’re Going to Lose that Girl – The Beatles 8. No particular Place To Go - Chuck Berry 9. Spanish Harlem – Ben E. King 10. In Dreams – Roy Orbison

I suspect the goal is different for an engineer than for someone like me! Greg The goal of good speaker design shouldn't be much different whether we're talking about an 'audiophile' or an engineer. That goal of course is for the speaker to accurately reproduce the musical signal (whatever that signal may be) with as as few colorations and distortions possible. There is one thing that is different. The engineer needs to take into account how an 'audiophile' will implement their design. If an engineer designs a loudspeaker system for a small room, and the 'audiophile' decides to use this design in a big room, how is the engineer to accomodate for this? Conversely, an engineer designs a big loudspeaker system for a big room and the 'audiophile' tries to make the design work in a small room and complains about the result, what can the engineer do to make the design work in this circumstance? I'm not having a go at 'audiophiles'. Sometimes we have no choice but to use a loudspeaker in other than ideal circumstances. But I don't envy the task we set for engineers trying to accomodate such varied demands. Regarding the Bose 901. I have always been quite impressed with this speaker. I wouldn't even try and compare the 901's with my Belles - but the 901's are not all that bad...