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It's a nice system for which most of us can't deny, most of us can't deny, most of us can't deny Sounded pretty tranquil to me but not my first choice for playback on that system, I mean a wall of Maggies being driven with some sweet AD amps thru Rowland and vinyl on a La Luce/Cardas

Againg like a fine wine, Happy Bithday Mr. Fini

Great post Marty, guess this thread need to be linked to the "Is......Analog Dead" thread As Austin would say "Groovy Baby"

Hey Shakey - you don't have to answer this, but what formats did you grow up with in your youth? What about when you were under 10, and then in your late teens / early 20's? One other question, but less interesting to me....is your vinyl completely without ticks/pops? Or is there the occasional low level artifact spitting out just above the noise floor? Doc, nice to see you in here, I was jamming on my Wall of Voodoo album last night and there may have been an artifact here or there but I was inmeshed in how good the music was and they faded away. Yes, I'm 58 years old and have tons of digital on disc and files but on my rig they pale in comparison to that natural ambience and warmth of vinyl (I too like Mr. Lindsey am drawn into analog music and I just hear digital) . This is an to each his own type of question, I bet that good looking dog in Chris's avatar prefers vinyl too Suffic to say in 58 years I've drank my share of Lone Star longnecks as well as a few stinky cans of it if no necks were available

Now, now Claude, I'm thinking you are a bit confused. Jitter, distortion, sterile compression are just another form of ticks and pops. If you are playing cd's you are simply dragging a light over a spinning disk on an arm that's connected to a tangential arm. A hard drive is just another arm dragging across a platter. So digital is so different from vinyls? Let's compare the medium. Wax is made from oil and so is a plastic cd. Yes a diamond is a stone, so what is silicone if not a rock? Find me someone here who has never lost a large amount of data, weather records, pictures, whatever on their foolproof digital devices such as hard drives, ram, or smartypants phones. You can't because everyone had had a data dump of some kind or another. Between Home Depot and Target over 130 billion private accounts have been hacked. Someday soon there will be a virus that simply wipes hard drives. What then? Wait until we have a real cyber-war, with whole governments involved, and you know that will happen sooner or later. What's going to be left of your online experience then, not to mention the cloud? To put it into digital terms. When the 01110011011010000110100101110100 hits the fan you are going to be up a 01100110011101010110001101101011ing creek without a paddle. Plus vinyls sound better to analogue beings. If you want digital become a robot. Thebes, not quite. "Jitter, distortion, sterile compression are just another form of ticks and pops." Not true. The result of jitter is actually much like wow & flutter in the analog domain. Distortion is the alteration of the original shape of something. Ticks and pops are not part of the original "shape" or sound at all. They are added after the fact with little or no control of the user/listener. Pray tell, what exactly is "sterile compression"? It certainly is NOT another form of "ticks & pops". If anything, the vast majority of vinyl LP have much more compression (of any kind) than CD or better quality digital. That's a fact. Vinyl LP (or analog tape) do not have as much dynamic range as any decent digital system, especially by today's standards, even if you through in the digital dither argument. "If you are playing cd's you are simply dragging a light over a spinning disk on an arm that's connected to a tangential arm." No. you are NOT dragging light over anything. You are reading reflected light from a spinning surface. The fact that its a tangential arm has nothing to do with anything. In fact the digital data is not even in "sequence". It's interleaved - to make forward error correction more robust and data less susceptible to damage than if all the data where arranged sequentially along the same "path". "A hard drive is just another arm dragging across a platter" No it is not. It is not dragging across anything. If it were, the disk would sustain the same eventual damage that vinyl records do. In the hard drive world this eventually comes to be known as a "crash". So digital is so different from vinyls? Let's compare the medium. Wax is made from oil and so is a plastic cd. Yes a diamond is a stone, so what is silicone if not a rock? And wax, oil, plastic, diamond, silicone, breasts, ice cream sandwiches, vacuum tubes, transistors, my lunch, your lunch, and everything else, are made of atoms, or more accurately, fields. So What. "Find me someone here who has never lost a large amount of data, weather records, pictures, whatever on their foolproof digital devices such as hard drives, ram, or smartypants phones. You can't because everyone had had a data dump of some kind or another. Between Home Depot and Target over 130 billion private accounts have been hacked. Someday soon there will be a virus that simply wipes hard drives. What then? Wait until we have a real cyber-war, with whole governments involved, and you know that will happen sooner or later. What's going to be left of your online experience then, not to mention the cloud?" And what will happen to all our vinyl when the sun turns into a white dwarf? "To put it into digital terms. When the 01110011011010000110100101110100 hits the fan you are going to be up a 01100110011101010110001101101011ing creek without a paddle." That's what error correction and offline backup are for. Anyone not doing that is simply asking for trouble. Anyone who wants to steal or destroy what's on my laptop media center ~ be my guest. I'll have it up and running within hours while I'm off doing something else. BTW, interesting bit depth ~ 31 "Plus vinyls sound better to analogue beings. If you want digital become a robot." Your embellished dramatization are always entertaining and fun. However, there is no such thing as "analog beings. We are made of bits & pieces (and fields). And so is time itself, the smallest "bit" of time being the Planck Unit, which is roughly 10 to the minus 43 seconds. Like it or not, We are digital robots, in a digital world. I....................Refuse...............to.......................believe................that..........ARTTO LOL

True Oscar, it just B(L)ose them away Almost forgot to tell MF the Tiv is nice

As one hard headed Texan to another your problem with digital kind of flies in the face of your superior format don't you think. I to this day never have that residual toe tapping, continuing to sing after the fact with digital that analog has always given me and that includes tape. I have oh so missed cassette in my cars for years now

That is a funny one Josh, Chris it's OK if we disagree on which format we prefer as long as we keep listening and enjoying

Well if were going strictly by the thread title I'd say whatever you can afford and think it is I mean rediculousness is in the ear of the be (hear) holder right? My $3500 speakers have a 15ft pair of cables on them for $125.00, my $1200.00 speakers have a 20ft pair of homade $0.60 a foot OFC copper wires on them if you want to know what I personally think speakers wires are worth

Oh you mean that warm sound with air around it and a little ambience instead of having a dead quite digtal copy knock you out of your seat because it has all that ambience taken away (along with a boatload of other musical information)? Some of us just prefer analog sound to digital because we realize digital is not true to how we hear which is in analog. I've always felt if digital was going to compress and cut information out that maybe they should put some pink noise back in to recover the ambience we have lost to the bits & bytes world:-( The only positive to digital for me is and always has been ease of use and nothing else, to the OP analog is not dead and a long shot from it because people have ears IMHO it is better to have any/all the sounds than be missing any!

Limited Edition 40th Anniversay Joint Project between SE Bikes and Santa Cruz Boards

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Naturally you would not expect this to happen, but Charlie Strong has a lot of housecleaning to do. However, UT has a QB commitment from a kid out of New Mexico that has the town talking.... Indeed it does Boxx and I sure hope Charlie can get his new prospect up to speed and get the Strong Ball format in place. You know as well as I do that Charlie is a new era for Texas and that the powers (and money) that be will be expecting a quick revamp With his coaching cleanup and player extraction I'm literally hoping we can pull one or two out before this years gone by

I'm inclined to firmly believe Diz on this one Bi-Wire = Buy Wire however I bought the sucker punch purely on a vanity esthetic desire. I found as mentioned elsewhere herein the snazzy gold plated jumpers that came with my B&W's just did not cut it for me visually and once again I decided to go with a nice pair of 15' Signal Ultra Bi-Wires for what I still to this day consider a fair return on investment at a total layout of $125.00 (heck at the rate people are stealing copper today I bet these babies are worth their proverbial weight in copper). I just no likey the jumper look, I remembered studying up on Bi-Wire/Bi-Amp the first time I bought a pair of dual binding post speakers and finding out the only reason they had dual binding post was for dual or Bi-Amp configuration where you are absolutely driving your HF with one amp and the LF with another and you would think the Bi-Wire bell would have gone off as soon as you see your speaker company packing a nice set of jumpers in the box for you Regardless of the fact I like the Bi-Wire look for me, just glad I did not shell out thousands on mine

I'm of the mind that some lack of parenting and love creates these lovely perpatrators, I'll probably get flamed for this but what these perps lack should have been instilled in them from an early age. I understand peer pressure but I highly doubt all the sudden at 16-17 years old a mean streak sets in! Seems everything stems from one word "Responsibility" I've always felt if we teach based on that word all others (Honor, Integrity, compassion, etc.) will fall into place.

I understand, just looks like an easy ebay grand in the pocket if you had $675.00 sitting around

I hope Dave is on his way over there!

Well being a Heritage guy I mentioned the Heresy first to him but I think they are just a we bit large for him width wise so I told him to look at the RB81 II Ref series I believe then I thought about asking those in the know Wonder what the diff is in the RB81 and RB75's (Duh Kaiser you can read right )

Howdy fella's, A good friend just purchased himself a Cayin a50t Integrated Amp pumping out 16W Tri or 35W Ultra. He's looking to spend $1K on a fairly efficient pair of bookshelfs. Since I don't really have any experince with any of the Klipsch bookshelf speakers I'm yielding to your suggestions Amp: http://www.soundstagedirect.com/cayin-a-50t-tube-integrated-amp-audio-equipment.shtml Much Garcias

Happy Birthday Dave, a certified AARP member now

As Larry and others have said texting requires you to leave your line of sight for far too long and I agree Dee it is the worst driving offense out there today out side of impairment by alcohol/Drugs! I'm a firm believer in vehicular manslaughter as well, nothing like a 3000 pound killing machine at 80MPH By the way I'm pretty sure this was the guy who died on I-40 over here not too long ago, they have been working on both I-30 Little Rock to Texas and I-40 Little Rock to Memphis since I moved here back in 1997 and they are both notorious for taking lives, 50% or better have been big rig accidents as well.

Pints and quarts I think, better move this over to the Miller Time thread

Maybe so but always remember whether she actually be employed by Klipsch or not Queen Amy will always be ruler #1 Old habits will be very hard for some us to break Chad Yeah, you rule

Moved here from Dallas in 1997, Born Houston 1956, moved to Boysville (SA) in 1970 and on to Austin in 1985 after graduating HS , doing an Air Force stint and working for Ma Bell in LA. to Midland. As I've told all my buddies back home who are feeling the same as you probably on the influx of visitors try and put yourself into their shoes! It seems it is always the innocents who pay for the mindless acts of the old

Ola, you are entering a very large jar of Planters