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  1. Hello guys, i just joined this forum to let you guys know about my KLF 30 upgrades. I'm sure most of you already know about the Crites titanium tweeters, crossovers and A-55G midrange drivers for the KLF 30's, but from what i can see, nobody really has a solution for the woofers. I thought about getting the Crites woofers as well, but i wanted more than just a replacement for the K 31 E's, i wanted a better woofer overall. As many of you already know, the bass output on the KLF 30's is a bit shallow, and many people feel the need to add a sub for that extra kick. I wanted something that would eliminate the need for a sub, and there are only a handful of dedicated woofers that have a frequency range that would work well in these cabinets. After much research, i found the PERFECT upgrades, the CIARE HW321. Not only do these woofers fit PERFECTLY with no modifications, they look and sound amazing. It's as if they were perfectly tuned to work with the KLF 30 cabinets, and they are vastly superior in every way to the K 31 E. They are made in Italy, and are definitely high quality . In all honesty, i'm amazed the K 31 E sounds as good as it did, because they are really flimsy and low quality. I swapped everything out with crites crossover, titanium tweeters and the A-55G mids, and then the CIARE HW321's. Overall, everything cost me about $1400, but i feel like it was a bargain. Here's my final verdict: I can't believe how much better these speakers sound now, not only in terms of clarity, but raw power. I didn't change ANYTHING in regards to equipment, or speaker placement, and the difference is staggering. The Crites upgrades are worth every penny, as the highs and mids not only reach another octave, but there is NONE of the "harshness" that is usually associated with Klipsch horns. Some people say that Klipsch's are an acquired taste, but there is a warmer and softer tone to the highs and mids with these Crites upgrades. As for the CIARE HW321 woofers, HOLY CRAP what an improvement. NO ONE will claim they need a sub once they hear these woofers, which feel like they were designed SPECIFICALLY for these cabinets. The bass is phenominal across a wide range, and combined with the Crites pieces, these towers will out perform much more expensive reference speakers. In fact, they will EMBARRASS many audiophile picks. I got these woofers from US SPEAKER online, as parts express doesn't carry them. You will NOT find a better speaker for these cabinets. Here are some of the specs. SPECIFICATIONS Nominal Basket Diameter 12" / 304mm Impedance 8 ohms AES Power Rating 150 Watts Program Power 300 Watts Frequency Response 25Hz - 2.5kHz Sensitivity (1W/1m) 93dB SPL Air Gap Height 8.0mm Voice Coil Diameter 2.0" / 50mm
  2. for the past 4 nights...not really trying to post pad; just bored.
  3. Prefer a pair of 3 Slant Risers, &/or Pair or 3 FLAT Risers in Walnut Oiled... One odd slant riser ok in Black. Greenback$, Trade, Partial Trade, &/or Firm Handshake OK.
  4. Up for sale are my lovely Belle Klipschs. I have upgraded (altered) (modified) them with the Volti wooden mid horn, Crites CT120 tweeter, Crites A-55-G mid driver, and Crites xover. Sadly my new home (and wife) can't accommodate these beauties so it's time to sell. The Belles sound great stock but it is THE best speaker I've heard (to my aging ears) with the updates (yes including Klipschorn, I us a sub so sue me) Cabs are an 8/10 with very small nicks and one small dent (in pics). They look and sound phenomenal. I live in Northen CA and am willing to travel a moderate distance to meet a buyer. No shipping. I'm asking $3,000 obo. I know most stock Belles go from anywhere from 2k-3k and I guess you will have to decide if the upgrades are worth it or if you are looking for bone cold stock then these probably aren't your babies.
  5. After the self-inflicted difficulties with installing my Crites crossovers, I was a little hesitant about tackling the titanium diaphragms. But the instructions on Bob's website were pretty clear and I have a multimeter handy to test the connection. Finally I took the plunge and I'm glad I did -- once I started it took around 15 minutes to replace both! I noticed a little extra clarity and a clearer soundstage after installing the crossovers. The titanium diaphragms took the process to a whole new level: it is the aural equivalent of cleaning a dirty window. Everything is brighter and sharper, not just the highs. Cymbals sparkle and stand out: Freddie Hubbard's trumpet on 1970's Red Clay is so clear you can hear him hitting the spit valve. The Ti upgrade definitely makes the speakers less forgiving: badly recorded material goes from tinny to nails on a blackboard as every bit of distortion is reproduced with painful fidelity. But the glorious improvements on good recordings well worth $54/pair + shipping. I must admit that this has me wondering about titanium midrange diaphragms. On another forum I saw Moray James commenting on how much Ti midranges improved his system and Klipsch's current Heritage lineup uses Ti midranges, but I'm not sure where I would purchase these. (Critesspeakers.com also has a very helpful tutorial on changing the midranges on a Heresy, but I believe he only has phenolic midrange diaphragms). But for now I'm simply going to bask in the glory of these improvements and give Bob Crites thanks once again for making my world a more musical place.
  6. I’ve had this pair of Quartets for a little over two years. They were my first legitimate speaker. Needless to say I was eager to get the most out of them and after replacing the tweeters with the crites titanium tweeters and installing new capacitors in the crossovers, these have served me well! My wife and I moved into a smaller home so these need to find a new home. The cabinets are in good shape, I haven’t done anything to the veneer. There’s one noticeable scratch on top of one cab that was there at the time of purchase. Grill cloths have some slight discoloration on them. Badges are tight and snug. A good warm bath would loosen whatever set into the grills. There is only one factory label left left on the rear of the cab. $525 and they’re yours. These reside in Edmond/Oklahoma City. Id prefer not to ship these. Local pickup only. If it’s not too far we could potentially meet halfway. They are listed on craigslist and Facebook marketplace as well.
  7. B&K Sound Type AA for sale, they have had less than 15 hours of use. I hooked them up and they worked perfectly but I have decided to bi amp my speakers and have no use for them. They are 10/10 in functionality and appearance. I am asking $250, shipping is included. SOLD to @luddite
  8. Hello, I'm located in Scottsdale, AZ and have a pair of Klipsch Mahogany KLF-30s and a Mahogany C-7 in excellent condition for sale. I also have the Crites titanium tweeter upgrades for all 3 installed AND have the components from Crites for all 3 crossovers but upgrade parts are not installed. Also includes a new in box KLF-30 speaker grill. Selling everything for $900. No issues and a fantastic sound for music and movies. They look awesome as well! I will post pictures soon. Local pickup is preferred. Thank you
  9. Hello, I have a pair of Crites crossovers built for K402 w/ Faital Pro HF200. They cross at 500Hz for mating with a Belle, Lascala bass bin. $125 USD plus shipping from Vancouver BC.
  10. I have a pair of 1984 first gen KG4's (even though they are listed as starting production in 1985, the labels on the back say 1984). I never liked these speakers! They sounded very harsh and edgy, yet yielded a very good sound stage, but they just fatigued my ears. Five years ago I read on one of the Klipsch forums about Bob Crites having designed and contracted a fabricator to make a titanium replacement for the phenolic horn drivers showing scope readings of a virtually, very flat response on supposedly sounding much smoother and liquid. For about $50 I ordered the pair and swapped them in and everything that people were saying was true. Very smooth, open, and airy, but without the jagged harshness. It was like listening to a completely different speaker -- one I fell in love with and became my main speakers. A couple of weeks ago, I read about the capacitors loosing their life around the 20 year mark and it hit me that the caps in my 1984 KG4's are now 31 years old. When back to Bob Crites' website and for $100 I could send him the original networks for a cap replacement, or for $200 I could receive new networks with all upgraded materials including new chokes, etc. -- I opted for the latter. I ended up removing all of the old “stacked-up” networks of this first gen that had everything glued up in a pile on the back of the input panel – turns out that the choke and transformer? (coiled bobbin) just popped off the plastic input back panel by prying a flat head underneath them and giving a little twist, removed the 3 screws, popped off the one cap that was glued, and cut the wires to the terminals. Then new network board fits on the wood floor of the bottom of the cabinet attached with velcro. After I finished wiring the first cab, I decided to do an A/B comparison between your network and the original 31 year old network. I conducted a very good test condition by putting on a mono LP, The Kingston Trio, and threw the balance knob Left/Right to compare them back and forth… let me tell you something, it was a dramatic difference! The old network sounded like the banjo was being played underneath a quilt. So, even though the speaker cab with the new network sounded brighter, and more open and airy, I would say it wasn’t adding anything, but simply allowing what was naturally in the recording to come through, whereas, the 31 year old network was not allowing all the highs to pass through to the horn. When I listened to the speaker cab that still had the original network, it was a kin to turning the treble control about 3/4’s the way down. As far as the bass, I’m not sure if it’s in my head or not, but it sounded a little tighter – just as strong as before, but with a little less resonance. Once again, Bob Crites has amazed me with his quality designs and engineering. I now have the ultimate KG4’s with Crites’ titanium horn drivers and upgraded, new networks! BTW, they are works of art just to look at (see before and after pics). And because the new networks are mounted on new cedar boards, they smell good too! I’ll never have to worry about moths in my speaker cabs I'm sure all of you know about Bob's Klipsch upgrades and maintenance services, but just in case you don't: www.critesspeakers.com Original 1984 network: New Bob Crites network:
  11. So I recently purchased a pair of old EV Georgians that have the same folded horn style as the klipschorns. They came with only the subwoofers installed (Crites 15"s) and what I believe is a pair of 2015 K-77-D's and pair of K-55-X's. They also came with a pair of AK5 crossovers and Crites Type AA crossovers. I am new to this forum and still figuring things out, what is your opinion on the AK5 vs Type AA crossovers? Does anyone know the nominal impedance for the K-77-D and the K-55-X? I cant find much information on the tweeter or horn driver. Any help or advice is appreciated. -Veaux
  12. Time to clear the house - I'm providing links to my posts covering the Forte project, instead of dropping the photos here. Will add photos of the Dynaco soon. I've a pair of Forte I that have been restored/upgraded with Crites crossovers (also upgraded with some nice parts) new Ti tweeter diaphragms. Original mid drivers, lf drivers, and passives. They sound beautiful. Cosmetically rough - I stripped the black paint and stained the veneer underneath. These were purchased last year, and were not cared for prior to my purchase - the stands should be rebuilt, I think. Many spots where the veneer is gone. A good purchase if you're wanting to restore the cabinets. Again, they sound awesome, so also good if you're less concerned with the look. I have the grills too - one badge missing. They look worn, and never used them. Asking $800 http://thenewold.co/the-vintage-project-klipsch-forte-crossover-updates/ http://thenewold.co/the-vintage-project-forte-i-stands/ http://thenewold.co/the-vintage-project-klipsch-forte-i-great-lows-and-no-highs/ http://thenewold.co/the-vintage-project-klipsch-forte-i-listening/ http://thenewold.co/the-vintage-project-klipsch-forte-i-almost-finished/ Also have a Dynaco ST70 I traded for last year. DIYtube mods installed by another owner. Sounds good. Including the full tube complement. Asking $500 Finally, I've a Dynaco ST150 amp. Not sure of it's history, but I've had it on the shelf for years. It's working, though likely needs a cleaning and recap. Power switch is always on, so also needs to be fixed. Asking $100 Will consider fair offers on all of these. Prefer local pickup, so you can see and listen to them. Thanks, Darren
  13. Looking for a single ALK ES 500 or equivalent. Any quality 500 hz 2 way crossover? Looking for a Linkwitz-Riley Crossover 4th order crossover.
  14. Consecutive Forte II's in Clear Oak Finish -Recently Upgraded Crites Xovers (new caps) and Ti Tweeter Diaphragms -Cabinets are in great shape-small ding on one of the backs of the bases -Nora Jones Inspected and Approved (Ha!) -Pick up only $700.00
  15. 08/09/2017 I just finished the first third of my '80s Klipsch upgrade project that I mentioned in a couple other posts ("Smoothing Horns" and "WTB K-600 horns.") First third - two Cornwalls. Second third - two more Cornwalls. Last - Heresys. My recently acquired '84 and '85 Cornwalls got Bob Crites' B-3 crossovers, T120 tweeters, and A-55-G midrange drivers. The early '80s and up Cornwalls switched from the K-600 cast aluminum midrange horn to the plastic/resin K-601 with a midrange driver that bolts onto a flat flange at the horn's rear. The A-55-G upgrade driver from Crites (and I believe ALK) is threaded like the factory K-55 and requires the older threaded K-600 metal horn. 'K? I stalked Ebay for a couple weeks and nabbed me some K-600 horns. The '84s are done. As recommended by many, I wrapped the plastic T120 tweeter horns and the metal 600s with rope caulk from Home Depot (found with the window insulation) to damp any unwanted resonance and added 1/16" rubber gaskets to the front mounting flanges. Of course the two mid horn styles have completely different screw-hole patterns so I made up a thin drill template to drill the new holes. The "new" side holes actually sat half-way on top of the existing holes so I filled the "stock" holes with epoxy, let them cure, and then drilled. It was really hard for me to hold the horn throat with one hand and try to screw in the A-55 driver with the other. Those last few turns were a b***h! So I installed the horns nice and tight and then screwed on the A-55 drivers. Oh, yes, much better. Now, the added front gasket and I guess some dimensional difference with the A-55 made the new horn assembly too long and the rear panel wouldn't fit (cue Maxwell Smart) by this much. The batting lining the rear panel was crushed flat by the stock horn/driver but still thick enough to keep the panel from fitting with the new driver so I just scissored out the compressed circle to reveal the plywood back and it fit fine. OK, time to fire 'em up. I realized way too late that I should have listened to them without the caulk to give the new components a fair audition. It would have been relatively easy to open the backs and after a couple of deft razor slices, peel off the caulk, but . . . well, I didn't. I re-EQ'd my room to pretty darn flat and the new settings are a bit different than before. I had a long listening session with several of my go-to LPs (what a sacrifice!) and concluded "I really like this!" Whether I really, REALLY like it needs more time, but damn it sounds good! Audio memory is a lot shorter than we'd all like to believe but my overall impression is how much cleaner everything sounds. At first I didn't quite dig the high end but a nudge to the volume control and whoa now! There it is! First up - Speakers Corner "Crime Of The Century." Not the best choice vocally, Supertramp's lead singer has this high pitched nasal quality, but the band really kicks it on "School" into "Bloody Well Right." The deep, well defined bass I'm use to, and piano, guitar, and sax all sounded spot-on. No undue harshness or "edge." ELP's first album, an old favorite, on a UK Island Pink Rim sounds fantastic. Even the built-in distortion in some of the organ stuff was less teeth-gritting. Lake's vocal and the piano in "Take A Pebble" sounded wonderful as did "Lucky Man." Beatles' "Abbey Road," UK EMI/Apple, Both sides. Aside from a few inevitable clicks and pops the Boys sounded marvelous. Paul's bass is clean and clear, vocals are natural sounding (even the gravelly-shouty ones.) Paul sounds like Paul, John like John, Georgie like Georgie, and Ringo . . . well, he's always been very kind to his mother. The harmonies on side 2 are glorious and the closing medley never sounded better. Dave Edmunds? Turn it UP! "Dark Side . . ." is in the wings for tonight. Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy, oh boy! These replacement drivers, the T120 tweeter and the A-55-G midrange are top notch. Bob Crites says they are the cleanest and smoothest that he's heard and tested. Just remember that the A55 mid driver needs a threaded horn. He told me that people like the 120 tweeter so much that his supplier can't keep up with his reorders. I had to wait about two weeks for mine. When I do the '85s I'll hold off on the caulk and give a listen first to "just" the drivers. I do recommend trying the caulk though. If you find you prefer the before to the after you can always remove it. After all, caulk is cheap. (Ha-ha-ha-ha . . . . .ha-ha . . . . . ha . . . . .hmm.) Dave EDIT : I listened to the first pair of "upgraded" Cornwalls with the new Crites drivers and the damped horns and they sounded somewhat warmer and less fatiguing but still bright enough to be engaging with a variety of records. I found I could play them louder without needing to turn back the treble and still have very clean highs. How much of that is the damping and how much the new drivers? Since they're already in place what I'll do next is switch the caulked horns in the finished speakers with the otherwise identical "un-caulked" ones and try to compare the sound. I suspect I might end up using a smaller amount of damping on the wide flare part of the horn instead of completely wrapping it, hoping to keep the new drivers' smooth response with a little bit more of the crisp Klipsch sound that I'm used to. Then again, maybe not. I'm using a solid state Mac amp and, make no mistake, with the fully wrapped horns you can really crank these boys and maintain a clean, clear sound. I just owe it to myself to do what I should have done at first - check them out with the new drivers but without damping and then maybe with a little damping for a really fair test. More comments about the horn damping can be found in "Smoothing Metal Horns."
  16. Newbie Type Qs RE Cornscalas and LaScalas This was prompted by a PM from another forum member, regarding SEOS CSs. In brief, if you already have a LS or CS (or other similar Altec, etc) why bother to change anything (besides horns, drivers, etc, like many of us do) if you have a sub? I am excluding the desire to tinker, which you have by definition if you are on the Forums - and that is likely why most of you are reading this post. If you are getting your first larger speakers, that is a different issue. Best to audition some first, realizing that most folks out there likely have no means to do this in the real world, especially in an A-B fashion. I have LaScalas and Heresys in a 550 sq ft place in the DC area, the rest of my stuff is still in NOLA. My single Fender 18” driver ported pro sub is roughly the size of a LaScala. Nice thick walls up North...LOL. I took a look at some SEOS CS webpages including diysoundgroup dot com where the SEOS waveguides or horns are listed and also looked at their LS or CS equiv, the Titan 615/615LX - under $600 each shipped !! Incredibly flat response from 100->15000 Hz; too good to be true? Several different curves below 100 Hz found in diff places. Let’s assume they roll off at 60 Hz. I assume bass bin size relates, perhaps not directly, to low end extension, eg 18” cubed maybe to 100 Hz, 25 x 25 x 12 (Titan) to around 60 Hz, 25” cubed (LS or CS) to around a 35-50 Hz roll off). The Titan bass bin size is maybe 40% of a LS bass bin size. So maybe if they had used a bigger (ported) bass bin maybe they could have gotten lower bass extension like the CS or LS. Perhaps that would also have required a different bass driver, xover, etc. But as stated below, add a sub, and you are done. And yes, I realize that this does not take into consideration tonality of the speakers, their “size” presence either in the room (almost “triangle” yard for K-horn) or whether you seem to be listening to a 10 piece band (K-horn) vs 2 high school kids (bad tower speakers), etc. One major Q: If you have sub that matches your speakers, whatever that means, what difference does it make to have lower bass extension from the mains? (No flame wars please, just looking for information.) Mind you I have big speakers per the above comment, but not directly for the bass extension. I resisted the “dark side” for decades as I thought the bass from the LSs and K horns was enough. I was very wrong. I am a bass a holic with many 15 and 18” subs, but no furnature/couch bass shakers (LOL). The CS adds about 10 HZ lower extension from the lower limit of the LS at the price of going from about 104 to 100 db/watt according to Crites' CS a-d webpage. Likely not a big deal to most of us with at least ?20+ watt tube amps. No doubt that is of some importance to some folks. However, if you have sub(s), does it really matter as you can program a receiver to output anything, say below 60 HZ to the sub(s)? If your audio receiver cannot do that, a dedicated sub amp can do that in almost all cases. (Though mains will run full spectrum, see below) Exception: I have thought of directly coupling the output of a turntable preamp to a stereo only amp and then directly into R and L speakers. But even here you could Y split the TT preamp output to add the sub amp as well. All you would lose is the ability to filter out the lower bass extension for the mains. It is only a guess, but I don't think the overlap, say below 40-80 HZ would be too noticeable to most of us (based upon whatever you use as the sub amp bass cutoff point). Outside of using maybe a Radio Shack Potentiometer, no idea how to control the volume inexpensively and ?cleanly. It makes the signal path as clean as possible (I think) - assuming that makes much of an audible difference to anyone. No remotes, so no couch potatoes. Just my 2 cents. Comments welcome. NOLA
  17. Does anyone have experience with these? I've noted that Bob Crites offers them and uses them in some of his Cornscalas. Tonal differences, etc.
  18. Ok, so I'm scratching my head a bit about what to do. I'm loving my Heresy II's but i'm lusting for just a bit more bass. I don't necessarily require 20Hz deep bass (although I wouldn't mind it either) I'm considering either building a Tangent 400 size ported cabinet with some proper internal bracing and eventually upgrading the mid and tweeter diaphragms with titanium ones from Crites and Klipsch. or build a set of Crites 1.5T speakers or just wait until a pair of Forte II come along. What I'm wondering is, is whether the Tangent 400 cabinet is the ideal size for the K-24 woofer and whether the bass ports and woofer are on the ideal hight. I wonder, because I've read is that for the CWIII, they moved the woofer up a bit higher and that resulted in less of a dip in the spectrum. Does anyone have any experience building Tangent 400-like cabinets for the HII?
  19. One pair B&K Sound/Crites CT120(b&c de120 driver)tweeters as new. Perfect condition, no flaws. Maybe 20 hours of light use tops. Purchased from Mr. Crites new on 07/29/2016. Used until I could make mounting brackets for my JBL 2404's. That task is now complete. I do not think I have to tell anyone this but these are VERY nice tweeters. $175.00 + $14.00 USPS 2-Day Priority Shipping in US. Payment via PayPal. Please PM me. Thank you for looking.
  20. Whilst perusing the Bay for a center speaker to go with my CF-4 fronts (the prime candidates are the KV-4 and KLF-C7), I happened across this interesting item. Apparently, in addition to upgrading to a Crites crossover, someone replaced this Academy's stock front baffle to one that mounts the tweeter horn horizontally for wider dispersion. Personally, the horn should've been oriented that way, to begin with, but whatever. Probably not as much of an issue for the larger-horned ones I'm going after. I guess the mods warrant the high price. Not a bad look, either. Local pick-up in the Toledo, OH, area only. Definitely don't have the time or money to drive all the way out there. http://www.ebay.com/itm/KLIPSCH-CENTER-SPEAKER-ACADEMY-WITH-UP-GRADES-/152479801327?hash=item2380811fef:g:b~AAAOSwzgBY0Hq
  21. The ordering process was painless and the package even got here a day early. I am hoping to add the new crossovers tomorrow after my 5 year-old goes to preschool -- as any parent will tell you, tinkering with stereos with a 5-year old at home is a recipe for disaster, especially if you live in an apartment. My speakers sound amazing as is -- I'm presently listening to Paul Desmond's Glad to be Unhappy as we speak and it's like a massage for your ears. I'm waiting to hear what they will sound like with refreshed crossovers and will keep everybody posted. (I also got the titanium tweeters and am planning to put them in next. I first wanted to make sure the crossover upgrade wasn't beyond my limited capabilities before tampering with fragile diaphragms. This may seem overly cautious until you've seen some of my previous misadventures in electronics).
  22. I love my Forte Is but I suspect I would love them even more if I refreshed their crossover. I know Bob Crites' crossovers are a refresh of the original Klipsch design, while ALK's crossovers are a product of his own vision: I've also heard good things about both. Could any of our gentle readers compare and contrast the Crites and ALK crossovers in action? (And in case I've accidentally asked a "Do Balrogs Have Wings?" question, I really am not trying to start a flame war or cast aspersions on either. I am just curious as to the differences between the two and how their differing approaches effect the sound).
  23. Built by Mr. Crites. I unscrewed the components and pulled them off the board as one. Veneered the stock Cedar boards in Tigerwood, lacquered them and screwed everything back on. Wanted to match the wood to a La Scala project I was working on. Replaced the tweeter cap with the new Jantzen Alumen Z-CAP made for tweeters and mids in passive networks. See the website if you like. The boards don't make them sound any better of course but they look nice and are unique. The Jantzen caps were $75.00 for the pair. They are new with very few hours on them but have made a nice change in the high end. The A/4500's are $230.00 a pair new. I will leave in the Jantzen caps and toss in the Sonicaps it came with. $180.00 including shipping and PayPal fees.
  24. Selling my favorite speakers I've ever owned. Space constraints force sale, and they are not being used right now so they should go to a fellow enthusiast who would appreciate them. Never overdriven (only used with an AVR247 receiver). I've attached a writeup of the crossover rebuild by the previous owner, who is a member of this forum. Features Crites titanium tweeter diaphragms Jantzen biamp/biwire crossovers with Crites autotransformers Jantzen internal wiring Dampened driver baskets and horns Plexiglass binding post plates with biamp/biwire option New driver gaskets and cabinet sealing Condition 8/10, some minor chipping/scuffing along base but pretty good for 20+ year old floor standing speakers. Price $600 OBO (but please don't lowball) Shipping I can arrange shipping within the continental US for $200. If they don't sell in 2 weeks they're going on ebay. merged.pdf
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