Coytee Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Can someone put into lay terms what these "dbs" cables are supposed to do? What is the magic oil with the dbs part? I've not bought any and don't plan on it...however, I did acquire a bunch of them in this pile of stuff I'm going through. The little dbs unit has a button you can push and little diode lights up...whooooooooo I've not plugged one in yet as I just pulled them out this morning. http://www.elusivedisc.com/prodinfo.asp?number=AQ-DBSUP72 The wires I'm holding are Audioquest Jaguar and seem to have this dbs device built into them rather than an add on like the above link seems to suggest. These are like the ones I'm holding but the ones I'm holding are a bit longer http://www10.epinions.com/Audioquest_JAGUAR_AUDIO_INTERCONNECT_CABLES_W_DIELECTRIC_BIAS_SYSTEM_0_5_METER_PAIR_JAGUAR05MRCA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coytee Posted February 10, 2009 Author Share Posted February 10, 2009 If this system takes wing out there, I am sure it wont be long before that little battery pack itself, becomes the size of a McIntosh 350 amplifier which must be powered by a separate generator located in your back yard, with #00 solid gold wire feeding the "hospital grade" connectors and so on. B-O-R-I-N-G. [Y] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ69 Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 I'm not a big fan of this concept but like anything else just hook them up and see how they sound. Thanx, Russ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 MIT cables have an "articulation points" thing that I don't understand after reading their ads a number of times. The more expensive ones have more "articulation points", but I have no idea what they are and it sounds totally hokey. Has anyone else noticed those ads? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Richard Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 There have been reports that it takes listening to Egyptian bongo music for a few weeks to break these cables in with this device attached, but when fully broken in you will never want to go back to your old cables. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Shmoe Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Coytee.... BS here [] hmmm, yea I don't buy the whole thing however I do like Audioquest. I had some lower line Audioquest wire that I bi-wired my KLF-30's with in my previous house, and call me crazy... but I do think they sounded pretty good, better than stranded wire anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Shmoe Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Oh, meant to add.... pick up a few of these, I am sure they to will do wonders [8-)] Price: $99.00 CABLE TOWER Audio/Video Cable Support. US PATENT # D565,389 Elevate your cables from the negative effects of carpeting and flooring. CABLE TOWER is an outstanding patent pending design which offers incredible cable support performance and appealing appearance. Unlike the unsightly utility based porcelain insulator, our CABLE TOWER was specifically engineered and designed for home audio/video use. White paper tests results support it's superior performance properties. Don't be fooled by the cheap "knock-offs"Here is an email from David Robinson - Editor of Positive FeedbackHello Daniel... So far, I have to say that I'm really impressed. These bloody devices are already better than my old ceramic lifts, and I haven't fully implemented the long cable run with them yet. Sturdy, sure-footed, and providing an improvement in the sound to boot. I have them in place with the Wavac HE-833 v1.3's right now, with an EMM Labs CDSD/DAC6 SACD front end. Damned glorious sound, my friend...right now, it's Janos Starker on Mercury SACD doing Bach. What could be better? ;-) Hope this answers your question! All the best, david David W. Robinson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinlanmw Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Gentlemen, For what it's worth, my dealer loaned me a set of the Audioquest DBS, along with some other cables, when I was looking for some balanced cables for my system. The technology sounded gimmicky to me and I was skeptical but thought, sure I'll try them out. They sounded worse than the cheap RCAs I had been using. Thanks, Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coytee Posted February 10, 2009 Author Share Posted February 10, 2009 They sounded worse than the cheap RCAs I had been using. More like rancid snake oil? cool!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrWho Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Hmmm...I should look up the patent as I'm having a hard timeunderstanding how biasing anything in a cable with DC is going tochange the AC behavior. I can understand issues like capacitors wherethe biasing is changing the physical behavior, but as far I knowthere's no hysteresis in the super small capacitance in a normalinterconnect... [^o)] I also don't see propogation speed as being amajor issue at audio frequencies...so what if it arrives a few picoseconds later? No way that's audible - and even if it was, why aren'twe dealing with the other sources of time smear that are much larger inmagnitude? Heck, the diaphragm is gonna bend and cause more phase shift (yikes). I think I would also be worried about noise in the bias circuitry getting coupled into the signal... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groomlakearea51 Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 They sounded worse than the cheap RCAs I had been using. More like rancid snake oil? cool!! Yessir!!!! Audiophile grade rancid oil!!! Special "fat" molecules with "heavy" electrons!!!![H] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Richard Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 $25M? That's a lot of snake oil. And a lot of silly people buying near-worthless products. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Richard Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 I'm guessing it is good for the economy. We recently have been informed that we need to spend a minimum of $3,000,000,000,000.00 for it to help the economy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 They sounded worse than the cheap RCAs I had been using. Insufficient battery break-in period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coytee Posted February 11, 2009 Author Share Posted February 11, 2009 Given my predisposition on these being snake oil and those thoughts being confirmed, I think I'll match them up into pairs and see if they'll ebay themselves away. Anyone here care to write up some flowery descriptive that I can use? They do have a nice little diode that lights up when you push the button. I wonder if that means I have to sit there and hold the button the entire time or if pushing the button "clears out" the wiring somehow, as in resets it?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groomlakearea51 Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 Anyone here care to write up some flowery descriptive that I can use? A task for "Thebes The Thespian" !!!!! Snake Oil "fat" Molecules Rule!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrWho Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 The button and LED are there only for checking battery life. You don't need to hold it on (in fact that will wear out the battery faster). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvel Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 I wonder if that means I have to sit there and hold the button the entire time or if pushing the button "clears out" the wiring somehow, as in resets it?? I see that you didn't read the directions. That is a 'test' button, to let you know the batteries are ok and that it is 'working'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coytee Posted February 11, 2009 Author Share Posted February 11, 2009 Though you are right in that I didn't read the instructions (never found any), everyone seemed to miss my (poor) attempt at humor, drawing a picture of me holding 4 buttons with my left hand on one side of the room, while also stretched across the room to hold the other 4 buttons in the right speaker... all the while, obvlious to maybe putting the buttons centrally at the amp. [] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Richard Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 So DBS stands for Double [bs]? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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