Ironsave Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 A high percentage of movie sound (dialogue and effects) does come from the center channel. If you want to debate the exact percentage maybe that is a separate thread. My point was that I want to use my existing tower speakers (KG 4.5) in my Home Theater, but don't want to have a center channel speaker that requires me to read lips to understand the speech during a movie. The RC-62 II is a great center channel with regard to speech intelligibility. Should I sacrifice speech intelligibility for the seamless transistion of the sound across the front 3 speakers? To get a Timber Match, I will either look for a Timbre Match for the KG 4.5s or purchase new towers to match the center. Would the Timbre match for the KG 4.5s sound as good as the RC-62 II? Would the RF-82 IIs, RF-62IIs or RB-82 IIs make a difference up front with the RC-62 II center over the KG 4.5s? Yes, it would sound as good. Why not get a KV3 or a KG 2.5? Both of those are pretty cheapish and pretty close (KG 2.5 is technically "THE CORRECT" match)..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironsave Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 The issue of line spacing is coverev in other areas on the forum but let me help. Type (SHIFT ",") p (SHIFT".)" at the end of a line, it will give you a paragraph break (double spaced). ( SHIFT ",") br (SHIFT".") will give you a break which just starts the text on the next line. Hope this Helps for the spacing. If you use Internet Explorer, there is no need to type things in to space, or begin a new paragraph...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvel Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 If you use Internet Explorer, there is no need to type things in to space, or begin a new paragraph...... Doesn't exist on a Mac, and neither Safari nor Firefox will put in the returns.Firefox, IE and most other browsers work fine in any incarnation of Windows... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvel Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 If Timber is a huge thing for you......... Make sure they are all Cherry...or Walnut... or... [*-)] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted May 29, 2011 Moderators Share Posted May 29, 2011 He is real to me... And look all around you for proof. Maybe this will help you... [Y] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironsave Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 If you use Internet Explorer, there is no need to type things in to space, or begin a new paragraph...... Doesn't exist on a Mac, and neither Safari nor Firefox will put in the returns.Firefox, IE and most other browsers work fine in any incarnation of Windows... Ouch.... that sucks that the forum is not more Mac friendly....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonJCarney Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 Wow.... So your proof is from a book written by man? Good luck with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonJCarney Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 Some men need a crutch to get through life. Some reason for what this life is or means. For them... Man created religion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvel Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 Some men need a crutch to get through life. Some reason for what this life is or means. For them... Man created religion. I certainly wouldn't say it's a crutch. And certainly not CREATED by man. As was pointed out in another thread, this is like Pascal's wager. By believing, you have nothing to lose, and everything to gain if it's true.btw, I believe it's all true, and have flat out seen some specific miracles. You certainly don't have to believe... that isn't what this forum is about, anyway. You won't get treated any differently here (I hope...) Bruce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willland Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 You certainly don't have to believe... that isn't what this forum is about, anyway. You won't get treated any differently here (I hope...) Absolutely no room on this forum to be critical of non-believers as well as no room to be critical of believers. I believe and with that I will never waver. We should all just agree to disagree and call it a day. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heritage_Head Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 To try and comprehend anything that complicated is difficult and some people need it to be more understandable to put their heart into it. Sometimes it takes being able to see it firsthand (I would be dead a long time ago without god in my life) I always say look up at the sun. You can roughly put 1 million earths inside that star and it will burn for billions of years. Things that massive are beyond our simple minds to ever truly grasp. And the sun is a tiny spec in the universe. I do agree that religion is man-made but man was created by god so is there a difference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted May 29, 2011 Moderators Share Posted May 29, 2011 I'm not threatened or opposed to anyone believing what they choose to believe about God and faith and I don't feel I have to try and take shots at someone else's faith just because I do not believe the same way. To me, that's childish. I always say look up at the sun. You can roughly put 1 million earths inside that star and it will burn for billions of years. Things that massive are beyond our simple minds to ever truly grasp. And the sun is a tiny spec in the universe. I totally agree...the heavens declare the glory of God. [] Louie Giglio has a phenomenal scientific/astronomy talk called and . Check out this video (starting at 5:45) where he compares the size of our Earth to the Sun. He says approximately 960,000 Earths would fit inside the sun. It's pretty crazy when you try to wrap your head around it. And to think our sun is a mere peep squeak in comparison to other stars that we have seen in the "known universe". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heritage_Head Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 Amen youth [] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heritage_Head Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 When you stop and really take in just how powerful the sun is and then know it’s just a spec to the power of god. Kind of makes me teary lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonJCarney Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornfedksboy Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 FWIW some of these same people will swear to you that god is real with no prooof! lol. He is real to me... And look all around you for proof. Maybe this will help you... How do you know God exists? Is there truly a God? How can anyone be sure such a being exists? We believe that the existence of God, and questions such as these relating to it, can be intelligently answered. The reason we know that God exists is because He has told us so, and has revealed Himself to us. It would be no help to us at all in our human predicament if God were silent, but happily this is not the case. God not only exists, but also He has communicated that fact to us. He has told us all about who He is, what He is like and what His plan is for planet earth. He has revealed these things to mankind through the Bible. The Bible has demonstrated itself to be more than a mere book; it is the actual Word of God. The evidence is more than convincing to anyone who will honestly consider its claims. Because of the boasts the Bible makes for itself, many have tried to destroy it, as related in this statement by Martin Luther: Mighty potentates have raged against this book, and sought to destroy and uproot it—Alexander the Great and princes of Egypt and Babylon, the monarchs of Persia, of Greece and of Rome, the Emperors Julius and Augustus—but they prevailed nothing. They are gone while the book remains, and it will remain forever and ever, perfect and entire as it was declared at first. Who has thus helped it—who has protected it against such mighty forces? No one, surely, but God Himself, who is master of all things. (cited by Fritz Ridenour, Who Says, G/L Publications, Regal Books, 1967) Even the French skeptic, Rousseau, saw something different in the Scriptures. "I must confess to you that the majesty of the Scriptures astonishes me; the holiness of the evangelists speaks to my heart and has such striking characters of truth, and is, moreover, so perfectly inimitable, that if it had been the invention of men, the inventors would be greater than the greatest heroes" (Frank Mead, Encyclopedia of Religious Quotations, p. 32). The Bible, therefore, gives us sufficient reason to believe that it is the Word of the living God, who does exist and who has revealed Himself to the world. Another reason that we know God exists is because He has appeared in human flesh. Jesus Christ was God Almighty who became a man. The Bible says, "The Word became flesh and dwelt among us" (John 1:14, RSV), and it is clear about the fact that Jesus came to earth to reveal who God is and what He is all about (John 1:18). If someone wants to know who God is and what He is like, he only needs to look at Jesus Christ. As Lord Byron said, "If ever man was God or God was man, Jesus Christ was both" (Frank Mead, Encyclopedia of Religious Quotations, p. 81). Instead of man reaching up to find God, God reached down to man, as Casserley explains, "The gospel provides that knowledge of ultimate truth which men have sought through philosophy in vain, inevitably in vain, because it is essential to the very nature of God that He cannot be discovered by searching and probing of human minds, that He can only be known if He first takes the initiative and reveals Himself (J. V. Langmead Casserley, The Christian in Philosophy, New York, Charles Scribner's Sons, 1951, p. 21). Jesus, in coming back from the dead, established Himself as having the credentials to be God, and it was this fact that demonstrated its truth to the unbelieving world. As Machen says, "The great weapon with which the disciples of Jesus set out to conquer the world was not a mere comprehension of eternal principles; it was a historical message, an account of something that had happened; it was the message, 'He is risen'" (J. G. Machen, Christianity and Liberalism, pp. 28, 29). Thus we have the Bible, and the person of Jesus Christ, as two strong reasons arguing for the existence of God. No other religion or philosophy offers anything near to demonstrate that a God exists. ADDITIONAL REFERENCE SOURCES Craig, William Lane. The Existence of God and the Beginning of the Universe. San Bernardino, Calif.: Here'sLife Pubs., 1979. Geisler, Norman. Philosophy of Religion. Grand Rapids:Zondervan, 1974. Plantinga, Alvin. God and Other Minds. Ithaca, N.Y.:Cornell Univ. Press, 1967.Schaeffer, Francis. He Is There and He Is Not Silent. Wheaton, Ill.: Tyndale House, 1972. -. The God Who Is There. Downers Grove, Ill.:InterVarsity Press, 1974. Sire, James. The Universe Next Door. Downers Grove, Ill.:InterVarsity Press, 1976. I always enjoy discussions of this nature when I can have them with people that won't get offended (including myself). The problem with the above argument is that it only strengthens the belief of those that already have faith. If you are speaking to someone that doesn't believe that the Bible is inspired and/or written by God, then the whole argument immediately falls apart. As devils advocate; "The Bible was written by man; man is not reliable; therefore the Bible is not reliable. The Bible is the only known reference to Jesus Christ as the Messiah; the Bible is not reliable; therefore I can not know that Jesus Christ is the Messiah." Did Man create religeon? I think we can all agree that Man created some religeons. They can't all be true, so someone had to create at least one of them (for instance, one might believe that L Ron Hubbard created Scientology). The issue that I have always noticed when a Christian aruges with an Atheist is that the Christian often tries to use logic to argue that his faith is genuine and/or that God MUST exist. Faith DOES NOT REQUIRE logic, nor proof. There is very little reason to try and persuade someone with logic or reason that your faith is correct. Atheists will always say that God doesn't exist because you can't prove God. That's okay. My issue is when an Atheist dismisses faith as being dogmatic, but will claim that science is "truth." Science is JUST as dogmatic as religeon. Just because I can observe something does not make it real. Reality might just lye beyond what the senses can tell you. The best argument I ever heard for God's existence somes from the Bible in which Moses (I think) asks, "who is there?" and God replies, "I am." God is "existence" by definition. The argument goes on and on, and at the end, if you can agree with the existence of the word God to mean an omnipitent being, then you must concede in the existence of God... Anyway, agree or disagree...good times! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonJCarney Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 The Christian does not use logic to argue gods existence. They use words like faith and believe. They quote passages from the bible (a book written by man). Man created Christianity. I already said man created religion but I am trying to be more specific here so the point doesn't get lost. Religion is the worst WMD man ever invented. It has caused more deaths than anything else on earth. But hey, it has been a effective way to control population so I guess it's not all bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psg Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 Using Linux here without issues. So it's not a Windows-only thing anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psg Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 Using Linux here without issues. So it's not a Windows-only thing anyway. If you use Internet Explorer, there is no need to type things in to space, or begin a new paragraph...... Doesn't exist on a Mac, and neither Safari nor Firefox will put in the returns.Firefox, IE and most other browsers work fine in any incarnation of Windows... Ouch.... that sucks that the forum is not more Mac friendly....... Using Linux here without issues. So it's not a windows-only thing anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvel Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 Peter, I didn't mean to leave Linux out... it certainly works with no browser issues. [] Bruce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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