ChipByrd Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Hi, I recently upgraded my Chorus speaks with the Crites tweeters and crossovers. They sound sweet. I am running them through a Pioneer SX-1050. I also have a pair of RF-82ii that I am running through a Cambridge Audio 840a. I would like to try a tube amp. I have heard some on this site say they partner great with Klipsch and others say it doesn't make much of a difference. My budget is rather low so I will have to go used. I don't know where to begin. Can I find a good used tube amp in the $600 - 800 range? If so, what kinds would you suggest? Thanks for the help. Chip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tube fanatic Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 It would be helpful if you describe your listening room (size, listening position relative to the speakers, furniture, carpets, etc.), type of music you listen to, and how loudly you listen. All of this will help determine how much power you will need which will, of course, determine the price range for satisfying that requirement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest " " Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 I have an excellent tube amp in the garage sale section . I sent you the link to the listing. My amp is dead quiet, has plenty of power, excellent dynamic range, super detail and imaging. It's current production so you don't have to worry about hum/buzz and restoration work needed on a lot of old vintage gear. There are a couple other nice tube amps by other forum members as well, so take a visit to the garage sale section. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipByrd Posted February 23, 2012 Author Share Posted February 23, 2012 I am in the process of developing a listening room. It is 11.5' x 18'. Apart from my audio gear, I plan on one extremely comfortable chair. I am currently figuring out what kind of acoustic gear is necessary. Musically, I am a mixed bag: from Clapton to Chopin. I definitely lean toward high volume. Hope this helps. Thanks for any advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.H.E. Droid Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 I think you'll be disappointed. Your Cambridge is an excellent amp. I run the same on my audio-only system along with a rebuilt Scott LK48 tube amp, HK990 cd player, turntable and Thiel loudspeakers. Frankly, the only difference I can hear between the two amps is the slight hiss from the tube amp (which is typical of tube amps) and the inability of the tube amp to drive the speakers to the same bass levels as the Cambridge. Not that I don't like the Scott, but after listening to many different tube amps over the past few years (like Audio Research, McIntosh, Rogue), I just can't hear any real difference between good quality SS equipment and tube equipment. In your budget range, I think you're better off spending some money eslewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipByrd Posted February 24, 2012 Author Share Posted February 24, 2012 Thanks Droid, One of my concern is budget. I realize the amount I listed isn't very much and I still need to spend some money on my listening are. My wife has been very tolerant thus far, but a big expenditre on a new tube amp might put her over the edge. When I taled to Mr. Crites he said he favors SS. I am sure I wll hear other opinions, which is what I want. BTW, what is WAF? It sounds like a designation for wife??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobi Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 WAF = wife approval factor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivernuggets Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Can't comment on tube vs solid state yet. I have a Scott 299-C that's going to Craig at NOSValves for restoration soon. If you can find something like the 299 series for a good deal (under $300) and have it restored for $300-400, you'll be close to a reasonable budget. You can then listen for yourself and see what all the talk is about. Some like all tubes and some like tubes in a certain place along the signal path. One forum member I met prefers a SS preamp with a tube amp - sounds the best to him. I look forward to finding where my tastes are. Maybe I'll be like Droid where my ears can't tell the difference. If that's the case I can sell this Scott 299-C for (close to) the money I have invested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest " " Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 I think you'll be disappointed. Your Cambridge is an excellent amp. I run the same on my audio-only system along with a rebuilt Scott LK48 tube amp, HK990 cd player, turntable and Thiel loudspeakers. Frankly, the only difference I can hear between the two amps is the slight hiss from the tube amp (which is typical of tube amps) and the inability of the tube amp to drive the speakers to the same bass levels as the Cambridge. Not that I don't like the Scott, but after listening to many different tube amps over the past few years (like Audio Research, McIntosh, Rogue), I just can't hear any real difference between good quality SS equipment and tube equipment. In your budget range, I think you're better off spending some money eslewhere. I agree with the noise and performance characterization of some old vintage tube equipment. But almost all current production and late production tube amps I have owned are dead quiet, can drive to full dynamic's speaker systems as good or better than SS gear. Current production and late production have power supply components comparable to SS gear. Supply filters for current production and late production that range between 1500uf and 3500uf is not uncommon compared to the small filters used in vintage gear ranging from 30 to 80uf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOSValves Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 I think you'll be disappointed. Your Cambridge is an excellent amp. I run the same on my audio-only system along with a rebuilt Scott LK48 tube amp, HK990 cd player, turntable and Thiel loudspeakers. Frankly, the only difference I can hear between the two amps is the slight hiss from the tube amp (which is typical of tube amps) and the inability of the tube amp to drive the speakers to the same bass levels as the Cambridge. Not that I don't like the Scott, but after listening to many different tube amps over the past few years (like Audio Research, McIntosh, Rogue), I just can't hear any real difference between good quality SS equipment and tube equipment. In your budget range, I think you're better off spending some money eslewhere. I agree with the noise and performance characterization of some old vintage tube equipment. But almost all current production and late production tube amps I have owned are dead quiet, can drive to full dynamic's speaker systems as good or better than SS gear. Current production and late production have power supply components comparable to SS gear. Supply filters for current production and late production that range between 1500uf and 3500uf is not uncommon compared to the small filters used in vintage gear ranging from 30 to 80uf. BS...... Vintage tube amps that leave my shop have just about zero noise. Unless you're the anal retentive type and count using a full range speaker as a headphone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juniper8 Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 I agree my 50 yr old tube amp is almost completly silent even if you stick your head in the horn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FRCP56 Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 I am going to repost my comment from a similar thread in the Garage Sale section: I absolutely love my tube amp from Glow Audio. They can be found at http://www.glow-audio.com/home.html. Single ended triode (SET), all point-to-point wired. Very low noise. I think they run for about $800 these days. 5 watts per channel doesn't sound like a lot, but with efficient Klipsch speakers, that little box rocks the house. I run it with RB-61 II's, and I just pulled the trigger on some RF-7 II's. The RF7's should be loud as all hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muel Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Craig beat me to it... the tube amps I have were worked on or built by him and are VERY VERY quiet! No hum or hiss whatsoever. The Scott 299 would be an excellent start and you are in the right price range. Rolling tubes is addictive but you could just put in some 12ax7 Telefunkens and be done with it. That is where I was happiest. This gets very subjective. Yes, I have heard SS with tighter bass but whatever "looseness" there is in the low end with the Scott is more than made up with all the rest (IMHO). Yes, it gets loud and sounds great all the way there! [] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipByrd Posted February 24, 2012 Author Share Posted February 24, 2012 That's funny. Even made my wife laugh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel Posted February 24, 2012 Moderators Share Posted February 24, 2012 That's funny. Even made my wife laugh! There's another used alot SWMBO She Who Must Be Obeyed, this was started by a man who had to outrun a cast iron pot. [] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.H.E. Droid Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Thanks Droid, One of my concern is budget. I realize the amount I listed isn't very much and I still need to spend some money on my listening are. My wife has been very tolerant thus far, but a big expenditre on a new tube amp might put her over the edge. When I taled to Mr. Crites he said he favors SS. I am sure I wll hear other opinions, which is what I want. BTW, what is WAF? It sounds like a designation for wife??? I'm trying to think about what you'll gain by getting a tube amp in that price range, and I honestly can't see how you'll do better than Cambridge Audio's top of the line integrated amp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipByrd Posted February 24, 2012 Author Share Posted February 24, 2012 I realize that the tube vs SS is a real debate starter. I am trying to figure out how I can best use my paltry resources to get the best sound possible. So here's another question. How many of you two-channel guys have bass traps and other room enhancements? It seems like this provides good bang for the buck and would be helpful in my 11.5' x 18' basement. But most of the info I've read had to do with home studios or home theatre set-ups. Is it as important for two-channel as HT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvel Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Is it as important for two-channel as HT? The short answer is absolutely. You also have to understand that it's the crazies on here, so a lot of us go to the nth degree to make it sound the best it can. I don't happen to be one, but my living room isn't to bright, so I'm pretty happy with just putting on some tunes and enjoying the music. Bruce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest " " Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 since you indicated exploring improvements...you might like this site....click on any item 2 4 Build yourself a component rack 3 5 Stuff dacron pillow batting into the ports on your ported speaker to tune the bass response 4 1 Get the Digital Gear away from your tuner 5 Cheap tube damper for input and driver tubes 6 3 Ground your metal rack, reduce noise 7 3 Pluse transformer for Digital 8 Component isolation device 9 1 CD spinner and magnetic field source used in combination with a tape demagnetizer 10 Isolation device 11 Contact cleaner and preservative 12 1 Fill freezer type Ziplock sandwich storage bags with sand and sandwich between two pieces of MDF 16 Fill gallon bags with play sand, place on top of CD players, amplifiers (away from heat-dispersion fins!) 17 1 Granite plate 18 1 These are little metal cones, put them under your speakers and you will have midrange galore, esp, guitars and vocals 19 Coil spring mounting of speaker enclosures 20 2 10 pair telephone wire as speaker cable 22 Improved contact 23 2 2 inch thick poly foam tubing placed around speaker cables 24 Marble slab subwoofer platform 25 Large bubble wrap isolation for CDP 26 Cheap tonearm wrap 28 Item is a clear plastic-like material in the form of a washer. It has a tacky surface 29 Nothing to upgrade? Then upgrade your AC cord to this 30 1 Damping feet for CD players 31 Change the capacitors and resistors in the cross-over in your speakers to better types 32 1 Mount these to your speakers and low frequencies are enhanced. 33 Separate dedicated AC lines for amp and digital components 35 Damping for equipment racks and speaker stands 37 3 Use plumber’s teflon tape on your small input tubes for vibration control 38 Reduce resonance of wood component racks 39 Close doors to listening area 41 Construct Maple sand Box for equipment support 45 Different soundimage in surroundsystems 48 Poor man's seismic sink 49 1 OHP covers 50 1 Black Diamond Racing cones, The Things and The Pits… 55 1 Inexpensive, but effective acoustic panels 58 Putting marble/granite slabs of different thickness underneath the spikes of the amplifier improves soundstaging 59 1 Securing bookshelf speakers with "Blue-tac" on stands 61 Foam mattress pads on your wall 62 2 Wooden boxes filled with #8 lead shot 65 Lift chokes off pc-board 66 1 Use plastic 35mm film containers on power cords, interconnects and speaker cable to cut RFI 67 Use spiral cable wrap to damp resonances of tonearm 68 Use to damp vibrations 70 Remove your grill cloths 71 Clean up your home's AC line 72 1 Remove the damping from reflex speakers and insert a V shaped brace running top to bottom (2"x2" approx.)to break up standing waves and add speed to bass 77 1 Slate under the spikes of the speaker stand 79 Cones 84 The best tube damping rings 86 Rewiring from the terminals to the diaphragm. Taking out the inner screen 87 1 Replacing the 12 volts DC power supply with two car battery 88 Throwing away the OP amps at the output of the dacs. replacing them with tube 90 Phono cable dressing for suspended t.tables 91 Glass panel tweak 92 4 Half racquetballs to dampen components 93 2 My tweak is about equipment damping, instead of buying Shakti Stones or Bright Stars, I put block of marble at the top of each of my component so vibrations are damped and somewhat minimized 94 Outboard power supply 97 Damping vibration in lower priced cd players to improve performance 98 3 Improve your imaging in spite of having a TV between your speakers 100 1 Adding a 3/4" glass panel to the top of the CD player 101 Do-it-yourself RFI detection 103 Separate Digital and analogue Supplies to regulators and run digital (5V) regulators from Nicad Batteries 104 Cones made of Aluminum outercone in which steal inlay is shrinked. space is filled with bitumen-like material 105 10kg Steal block for use with acoustic balance cones 106 Rope platform for audio components 107 1 In addition to painting the CD edges green, painting the CD tray and the inside of the chassis cover would also benefit from the green paint effect 108 Installed two cooling fans in an entertainment unit to reduce heat generated by six components. 109 Outboard Power Supply/ transformer 110 1 The ultimate no-cost speaker stand 113 Connecting two identical conductors in a single path 114 DeoxIt and Pro-Gold are contact cleaners which also improve the conductivity of all the (electrical)contacts in your hifi setup 115 Using Belden coax cable as speaker wire 116 A platform to reduce the vibration of a CD player or source 117 1 Coins on top of speakers do wonders 119 1 Solid core, house hold industry, mains cable as your power cords 120 1 Coins placed under the spikes of speakers or stands 121 Tighten the screws on the units of your speakers from time to time 122 Use shorter runs of speaker cables 123 Eliminating first reflections in listening room 125 Speaker setup 126 Remove build up of static charges on the surface of any cable as well as CD's 127 Tweeter anti-diffraction rings 129 Tracking weight 130 2 in. thick square concrete slabs on top of my subwoofer 131 Small metal cones under front edge of proac tablettes 132 Suspending your speaker wires off the floor 134 Near field monitoring 136 Changing power cord connections to mains 137 2 Erosion of the edge of CD 138 1 MDF sand Box 139 1 Hospital grade power outlets 140 Setting up speakers with string 141 2 Correct Polarity using a Digital Multi Meter 142 MDF Speaker Stand 143 Blue tacky puddy like substance provides great damping and coupling to speakers 147 Speaker cones or spikes DRAMATICALLY increase not only BASS response but soundstage and imaging! 148 Got my speakers "off the ground" and moved the horn tweeter to ear level made a WORLD of difference! 149 Use a sound pressure meter to help place speakers (and integrate a sub-woofer) by balancing all of the frequencies. 151 Switch components from left to right channel. 155 1 Ferrite rings 156 1 Rec-out preamp connection 157 Basic reinforced Aluminum cone 158 Shortcut the unused INPUTS to the preamplifier (No, not OUTPUTS, please, unless you want to make some damage!) 159 Mounting bypass capacitors in your speakers network. 160 Position cd-player and preamp away from power amplifier. 161 Home made power cords. Amazing! 162 Short-out unused inputs of your preamp 163 Replacing rectifiers of power supply. Incredible! 164 1 Marble support table. Wonderful!! 165 Replace your current speaker wire with Home Depot 6 gauge stranded electrical wire. 166 An improvised RoomLens 167 Using 3 natural quart crystal balls inserted into wood base for the equipment support. 168 Use between pre-amp and subwoofer to eliminate bad effects of long interconnects on sound quality 169 1 Using this interconnect between transport and d/a converter 170 A cylindrical open-cell foam piece of tubing used for insulation of water pipes 171 1 A sheet of .125" damping material with a viscoelastic adhesive backing 172 A polymer damping sheet with a concentric circle design on one side-supposed to eliminate internal standing waves 173 Poster hanging putty 174 A static discharge device, similar in effect to Versa Labs' "Zap", which retails for $40.00. 177 Homemade speaker and component support. 178 1 Damp amplifier cooling fins 179 Short the unused inputs on your pre-amp. 180 Upgrade the mains supply 183 Big do-it-yourself ferrite rings for eliminating EFI in power/speaker cables. 184 3 Heavy felt tweeter rings for smoother detailed treble 186 Purchased stanley door stoppers from WallMart and placed under amp and turntable for isolation. 187 3 Amp on-top of cd 189 Quad els on target stands. 190 Equalize audio to match your hearing! 192 1 Use inflated rubber tubes as seismic sink of CD or turntable players. 194 4 Isolating Stones 195 Put a bag of shot on your amp, if possible (don't block air holes) and especially on your CD player. 197 Shelves can be improved upon by a sandwich of plywood and cork. 198 Look in the ads in hi-fi mags and design your own speaker and equipment stands 199 1 Adding new connectors to your amp. 200 Replace all the ceramic capacitors with WIMA red ones (No MKS). or Siemens styroflex 201 Play Densen : DeMAGIC CD 202 Install a special power group only for your audio installation 203 A demp the chassis with MDF blocks 2 inch square 205 Place all cabling off of the floor using styrofoam cups. 209 Speaker/IC line supports...cones/rounds/polys/squares/trap'zds 210 Cones/Trap'zd's/bullet shaped anti-resonant weights for speakers/electronics 211 Compound Bias for tube power amplifiers. Not just fixed OR auto Bias, but both. 212 Vitalizing most tube amps by modernizing the driving-section. 213 1 BI-Amping your system...eliminate the crossover in the speaker 214 Ohm that unused digital output! 215 1 Very cheap, very good sounding homebrew speaker cable 219 2 Elevate your listening position to get your ears at the same level as your tweeters. 220 2 Use an isolation transformer without plugging your equipment into it 223 Foam ring around tweeters. 224 Put eggboxes of commercial damping panels in critical areas to cut reflected energy at listening position. 225 1 Damping(especially metal- and ceramic dome) tweeter's high-freq. Resonance 226 Use a sheet of EAR ISODAMP, about 30 per. and cover the top and bottom of the chassis with it. 227 Some use tennis balls, but for those of us with limited space "squash balls" work better for component isolation. 228 Use nylon bolts instead of spikes on hardwood floors. 229 Terminal and contact cleaner with electro-magnetic properties to enhance electrical connectivity on gold surfaces 230 Vibrapods are great but can't be used with spikes unless you have some kind of cover for them. 231 Economically challenged tube traps 232 Gold connector cleaner and conditioner-sealer 234 Keeps speaker cables from touching the ground. 235 Damping of CD transport mechanism 236 Bitumen damping of CD cabinet 237 Lifting speakercables off the floor 238 1 Bike tube under CD player/amp 239 Back wall resonance deadening. 240 1 Digital equipment in separate a/c zone. 243 Switch cycling 244 2 The Nordost Eco 3 Antistatic Spray prevents static charges to build up on your equipment, your cables and even your records and CD's! 245 Vibration isolation platform. 247 Skipping CD's 248 Speaker setup 253 Air dampening/isolation device 254 An isolation platform placed on top of components to reduce EFI interference and better the effectiveness of isolation platforms. 260 Replace speaker terminals and wires to crossover with some decent (solderable) speaker cable soldered directly to crossover, spades to amp 261 Speaker damping without fibreglass,etc. 262 "Spikes" for speakers, racks, et al 263 Replacing cheap wire with higher quality copper.More punch,and higher definition 264 Positioning spikes for optimum sonics 267 Best Solid Silver loudspeaker cable on Earth 269 3 Biamp and biwire your loudspeakers if possible. 270 Place layers of bubble wrap under component shelves to achieve air based isolation. 271 Perfect sound staging 272 1 Cheap CD Mat 273 Neoprene washer substitute. 274 2 Amazing roller ball isolation device for CD players 275 Component isolation 276 3 If your Television is between your speakers, throw a blanket over it when listening to music. 277 To extend the IC's life and dampen created HF 278 Oak drawer knobs from DIY shop used as equipment feet. 280 Low jitter, high accuracy replacement CD clock module 281 Solder wire ends to prevent fraying + improve connections 282 An isolation platform for your turntable. Probably works well on CD players too. 284 Reduce front baffle loudspeaker diffraction losses 285 1 Put ball bearings in three Vibrapods and place turntable on it. 286 1 Remove stock (hard plastic) feet from your CD player 287 Laser alinging your speakers, perfect alingment! 288 Home made, non-shielded (Not needed and only degrades the sound), low capacitance solid silver interconnects. 290 Flour in ziploc bags rather than sand. 291 Vinyl flooring as great panel damping. 292 Zerostat to render cd's static free. 314 Inexpensive high quality interconnect wire for thoes that make their own interconnects 315 Air Isolation of components! 316 Rollerblocks 317 1 Tennis Balls for Excellent Dampning and Better Air Circulation 318 BassLine, an acoustic enhancement invention for improving sound from bass reflex speakers. 319 4 Three evenly spaced PVC tubes behind speakers to tune them 320 Solid-Tech 322 Place thin piece of mortite strategically on cd transport tray so that it doesn't interfere with the opening and closing function. 323 Resonance damping of bass and midrange steel baskets with car repair "steel plastics" 324 1 Short circuit the digital out from your cd-player when not onnected to a separate d/a converter 326 1 Apply FunTack to caps, ICs and transistors. 328 Speaker/speaker stand isolation platform 329 2 Use pieces of a thick neoprene mousepad to decouple speakers on stands 332 Better alternative to expensive HiFi stands. 333 4 Make your own awesome solid silver interconnects and cables 334 Superior version of MDF (medium density fiberboard). 335 Improved stability, vibration damping, focuses speakers 337 Neat dampeners 338 Stand speakers on a cutout piece of 1-2 cm thick polystyrene, the same size as the base of each speaker. 339 1 Clean all copper contacts like equipment plugs,valve pins,fuses.More current to your system. 340 1 Cd cleaner that really improves the sound quality of budget cd players. 341 1 Stabilize the voltage supply on IC in CD player, DAC, OPAmp etc. to improve leading edge of music pulses. 342 5 Use Brasso polish to make scratchy CD's like new again. 345 Pirelli bi-wire cables, strands not solid-core, as speaker cables. 346 6 Aluminium honeycomb footers. 347 Driver dampening on speaker cabinets. 348 Upgrade caps resistors in speaker crossovers. 351 Clean Your Clock - quick tweak to improve the clock performance in your CD player. 352 1 Vibration control platform. 354 3 AC outlet 355 4 AC plugs 356 Subwoofer tweak 358 3 Video and Audio improvements in Home Theatre System 359 Turntable Tweak 360 Hockey Pucks (as equipment feet) 362 1 Twist your interconnect cables into "twisted pair" 363 Cheap AC line noise filter 364 Component isolation (substutite for graphite blocks) 365 Buckwheat Pillow Vibration Fix 366 Vibration control for components, $15 rollerblocks 367 Wall panels - Effective and cheap 369 3 Silicone resin used inside cabinet for maximum clarity 372 2 Mass Load Device 373 1 The speaker attachment to improve sound 374 Acorn nuts under speaker spikes 376 1 Twin inner tube damping device 377 3 Put ferrite beads on your speaker cables 378 1 Checking AC field around your cables 379 1 Audio Spectrum analysis, home theater room optimizer 382 Anti-Resonance Platform for audio components 383 AC Line Noise 384 CD Base 385 7 Amazing speaker tweak 387 1 Zobel network calculator 388 Inky black contact enhancer liquid 390 1 Focus Rings 391 8 Bass Tune your room 392 1 Reducing "digititis" glare of CD 393 Styrene foam cylinders [as cable separators] 394 Make ground plan for DAC chip, easy way to improove S/N 395 Voltage regulation 396 Cheaper Supplier of Lead/Steel Shot 397 Dampning inside CD player 398 Dampening CD player chassis/housing 399 CD player platform 400 Replacing spikes on stands 401 1 Cheap mains conditioner 402 Stylus replacement shure m75, m91 etc 403 1 Turntable isolation via holographic setup principles 404 Leaving your equipment switched on 405 1 Isolation platform 407 1 Clean up bass response on sub-woofer 408 Contact treatment 410 1 Concrete blocks above AND below the sub! 411 FM performance 428 The Space Harmonizer, a new unique resonant platform 429 Digital to Analog Sound...the Easy Way!!! 431 Speakers setup on carpet 433 Effective, cheap, very affordable and easy to install. 434 1 Tighten the screws on your speakers in the speaker cabinets. 435 Damping Material 438 MDF Shelf Treatment 439 Change your existing basic outlet with a commercial grade outlet 440 MiHorn/Focus Ring Alternatives. 441 AC outlet 442 Anyone use Quietcoat? 443 The wonders of blu-tac on my Rotel rcd-1070 cd player 444 Equipment Isolation 445 Dedicated mains Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest " " Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Here's a list of 445 tweaks http://community.klipsch.com/forums/t/160198.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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