The Dude Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 I recently picked up last years model but new Onkyo TX-NR, I did the Audyssey setup. It seemed to set my Cornwalls small, and 10ft from listening position when they are about 7ft. If I go in and change this manually will it mess with anything or should I leave it alone. Does this happen to others. Thanks Duder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Traveler Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 Audyssey usually gets the distances spot on...Did you have the microphone on a tripod? Fwiw, I would leave the Cornwalls as Small if you have a capable sub but I would think on most systems the AVR would see those speakers as large...In a nutshell your results don't sound normal and I would run it again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinceisvince Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 I believe at least for a sub, it will set the distance even further than it actually is to compensate for a delay in sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themrclean Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 In my experience, Audyssey can be enywhere from 15% to 100% off on speaker distances. I have had it read speakers that were 12 feet away as 24 feet. In my opinion, Pioneer's MCACC is the most accurate of all the room eqs, but still not accurate enough to use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted March 12, 2012 Author Share Posted March 12, 2012 I remeasured my distance and it was dead on. The sound is fantastic when it travels from speaker to speaker as on the movie and show it was better then my older hk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Traveler Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 In my experience, Audyssey can be enywhere from 15% to 100% off on speaker distances. I have had it read speakers that were 12 feet away as 24 feet. In my opinion, Pioneer's MCACC is the most accurate of all the room eqs, but still not accurate enough to use. Fwiw, I don't know where you are getting that "MCACC is the most accurate of all room eqs" and then end by saying but still not accurate enough to use. [:S] I admit to having no experience with the MCACC but what I am reporting about speaker distances being accurate is from this thread at AVSForum: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=795421 Insofar as MCACC being the most accurate of all the room eqs could you please provide the link to where you got that information. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themrclean Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 In my experience, Audyssey can be enywhere from 15% to 100% off on speaker distances. I have had it read speakers that were 12 feet away as 24 feet. In my opinion, Pioneer's MCACC is the most accurate of all the room eqs, but still not accurate enough to use. Fwiw, I don't know where you are getting that "MCACC is the most accurate of all room eqs" and then end by saying but still not accurate enough to use. I admit to having no experience with the MCACC but what I am reporting about speaker distances being accurate is from this thread at AVSForum: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=795421 Insofar as MCACC being the most accurate of all the room eqs could you please provide the link to where you got that information. Thanks. I said that in my opinion it is the most accurate. That is based on using both Audyssey and MCACC several times in multiple rooms. With my tests, MCACC was always closer than Audyssey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnydrama Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 I own 2 Onkyo TX-SR608s and Audyssey is always spot on with the distances in my living room and bedroom setups. Same can be said for the Onkyo TX-SR606 I used to own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Traveler Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 I said that in my opinion it is the most accurate. That is based on using both Audyssey and MCACC several times in multiple rooms. With my tests, MCACC was always closer than Audyssey. Cool. I just wanted to clarify that your conclusion was based on your own results and not the consensus of others. Fwiw, your results are out of the ordinary in regard to what people are reporting about Audyssey, although it is agreed that no eq program is for everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbon summit Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 I've got the older Audyssey MulitEQ XT in my Onkyo PR-SC886 and have always had great results. I'd love to get a newer Onkyo to get MultiEQ XT32 since I've read it makes a big difference but I'm so happy with what I've got I can't justify spending the money. I've never used MCACC but I can say I'm much happier with Audyssey than I was with Yamaha YPAO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel Posted March 12, 2012 Moderators Share Posted March 12, 2012 I'd love to get a newer Onkyo to get MultiEQ XT32 since I've read it makes a big difference Just looked to check what models the XT32 is in, it's only the top two models the rest have the regular XT. I was hoping it went a little further down the line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrickdj1 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 I think all the autocalibration systems have their good and not so good points. MCACC has great room correction, Audyssey has better bass equalization due to the 8 filters for the sub and so on. As far as distance, physical distance is not as important as the timing of the sound waves to the sweet spot. Someone already mention that bass frequencies can throw off the distance of the physical measurement so, this is not a good point to get hung up on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rippyman Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 I recently picked up last years model but new Onkyo TX-NR, I did the Audyssey setup. It seemed to set my Cornwalls small, and 10ft from listening position when they are about 7ft. If I go in and change this manually will it mess with anything or should I leave it alone. Does this happen to others. Thanks Duder Audyssey does not determin your speaker size or spacinng, it simply calobrates EQ. Your AVR is doing all the measurments and speaker sizing. This was told to me by the Audyssey people when I asked them directly about the same questions. I have done a ton of experimenting with Audyssey and in the end I found that turning Audyssey off produced the best results, haha. You will get a much fuller broad sound without Audyssey, try comparing and you will see for yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themrclean Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 +1[Y] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel Posted March 16, 2012 Moderators Share Posted March 16, 2012 It probably has to do with how screwed up your room is in position to you speakers and room reflections, some rooms may not benefit, some it may make a big difference ? I never had any auto adjustments but since it measures the sound after it bounces around your room you would think it depends or each room as to how much if any it helps ? The different models/programs of room correction may measure in different ways or even measure different things with different results so you would think there not going to be all the same. ? Just a guess since I never had it to try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted March 16, 2012 Author Share Posted March 16, 2012 I need to find my tripode and redo the setup other then the left side being brighter then the right do to me not having a way to have the setup mike equal distance from the left as opposed to the right things are a bit off. But all in all it all ready sounds better then my HK. As far as Audyssey it self goes I always thought it was a program designed to make adjustments for odd room modes, but what do I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heritage_Head Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 I recently picked up last years model but new Onkyo TX-NR, I did the Audyssey setup. It seemed to set my Cornwalls small, and 10ft from listening position when they are about 7ft. If I go in and change this manually will it mess with anything or should I leave it alone. Does this happen to others. Thanks Duder Audyssey does not determin your speaker size or spacinng, it simply calobrates EQ. Your AVR is doing all the measurments and speaker sizing. This was told to me by the Audyssey people when I asked them directly about the same questions. I have done a ton of experimenting with Audyssey and in the end I found that turning Audyssey off produced the best results, haha. You will get a much fuller broad sound without Audyssey, try comparing and you will see for yourself. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Traveler Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 ...As far as Audyssey it self goes I always thought it was a program designed to make adjustments for odd room modes, but what do I know. Fwiw, you really need to use a tripode to get the best results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted March 18, 2012 Author Share Posted March 18, 2012 ...As far as Audyssey it self goes I always thought it was a program designed to make adjustments for odd room modes, but what do I know. Fwiw, you really need to use a tripode to get the best results. I relize that now, I have one some were just need to get away from the computer and look for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel Posted March 18, 2012 Moderators Share Posted March 18, 2012 What does the tripod do, keep the mic from being to close to other surfaces ? Where do you put the mic, where you would normally sit, what height, about head height when sitting ? Never had Audyssey before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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