Scrappydue Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 (edited) So last night I sat up my new 138" 2.35 elite acoustic pro2 screen. Size is awesome. Frame is fantastic. However, on bright scenes I can see the fabric of the screen. Easily. Even from my back row. Darker stuff I can't see it. Only light colored skins and sky stuff like that. Not sure if it's the morie effect or what. I don't know what to tell elite. I think it's just the screen fabric. Which sucks cause I read the the acoustic pro 2 didn't have this effect like the previous acoustic pro 1. Got a week to send it back to amazon. Gotta get it figured out quick. Elite said I could send them a picture of the screen and they would go from there. Edited June 17, 2014 by Scrappydue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 (edited) Moire effect would be VERY discernible as a a pattern... if it's just the fabric you are seeing and no patterning, it's not Moire. If you DO SEE a pattern, there isn't anything you can do about it except to rotate one of the two interference sources(projector or screen). You can TUNE most of a moire pattern out, but not out completely unless your two sources are PERFECTLY aligned. Edited June 17, 2014 by Schu 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxx Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 It looks like the pattern eye doctor's give you to stare at when checking for various stages of macular degeneration.... lol... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappydue Posted June 17, 2014 Author Share Posted June 17, 2014 Well hoping elite will send some 4k fabric on the house. If not they get bad product review and product returned. Shouldn't even sell stuff like that. I mean it is a total disappointment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 (edited) so is it in fact Moire you are seeing? that would totally suck if it were mine. Like I had mentioned... if you can, perhaps you can "clock" one of the two elements??? in printing we use various screen angles to control Moire.. usually like 45º, 75º, 105º, 0º and there are other combinations. Edited June 17, 2014 by Schu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eth2 Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 There is a very clear pattern. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappydue Posted June 17, 2014 Author Share Posted June 17, 2014 ok well after i came home i did as they instructed and sent in pics to them for warranty purpose. it is just clear as day the fabric that i can see. i read that the acoustic pro2 was better than the original. well whoever said that was wrong. i can see from the front row at 12 and even easily at 18 feet in the back row. in fact, most of you will understand this, EVEN MY WIFE POINTED IT OUT BEFORE I SAID SOMETHING. you know if the wife notices it its noticeable for sure. so i have read some places upgrading people to the 4k at no cost. if that is what is done i will give it a shot. if not i will send it back and be going the diy route with seymour as i inquired a price today on a 140" from them and about pooped my pants when i saw the price for non diy unit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heritage_Head Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 My seymour screen was as much as my projector. If I knew I wasn't going to need to raise it and lower it I could have saved some cash. I would get seymour scrappy. All the reading I did all pointed to them for a AT screen. You pay more but its the best. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBPK402 Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 My seymour screen was as much as my projector. If I knew I wasn't going to need to raise it and lower it I could have saved some cash. I would get seymour scrappy. All the reading I did all pointed to them for a AT screen. You pay more but its the best. I am patiently awaiting mine.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psg Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 Yeah, my screen also cost as much as my projector... Granted it's electric. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cradeldorf Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 (edited) I feel like a cheapskate now, I just shoot mine onto my wall that I painted with flat white ceiling paint. Hope you come up with something you are happy with. Never really went in for the whole screen thing myself. Unless it's one of those frosted ones and the projector shoots onto the rear of it. And that's only because the projector would be far away and I wouldn't hear it. Probably a waste of time to post a pic since you can't really tell how good it looks. But here's my Po' Mans screen. Edited June 21, 2014 by cradeldorf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heritage_Head Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 I feel like a cheapskate now, I just shoot mine onto my wall that I painted with flat white ceiling paint. Hope you come up with something you are happy with. Never really went in for the whole screen thing myself. Unless it's one of those frosted ones and the projector shoots onto the rear of it. And that's only because the projector would be far away and I wouldn't hear it. Probably a waste of time to post a pic since you can't really tell how good it looks. But here's my Po' Mans screen. Looks good to me Imo with the image right at the top you would gain a lot of pq if you could stop the reflection on the celing. A few black AT pannels might be all you need. Painting it would be better but not sure if that's an option. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappydue Posted June 21, 2014 Author Share Posted June 21, 2014 I feel like a cheapskate now, I just shoot mine onto my wall that I painted with flat white ceiling paint. Hope you come up with something you are happy with. Never really went in for the whole screen thing myself. Unless it's one of those frosted ones and the projector shoots onto the rear of it. And that's only because the projector would be far away and I wouldn't hear it. Probably a waste of time to post a pic since you can't really tell how good it looks. But here's my Po' Mans screen. Looks good to me Imo with the image right at the top you would gain a lot of pq if you could stop the reflection on the celing. A few black AT pannels might be all you need. Painting it would be better but not sure if that's an option. agreed! I have a black king size sheet tacked to the ceiling. Made a huge difference. And pin holes won't be noticeable once I take it down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cal Blacksmith Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Bummer! Our walls are textured so just painting them was not an option, we went with a Dalite screen that has a angled, mat black frame, we have been VERY happy with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbox Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 I feel like a cheapskate now, I just shoot mine onto my wall that I painted with flat white ceiling paint. Hope you come up with something you are happy with. Never really went in for the whole screen thing myself. Unless it's one of those frosted ones and the projector shoots onto the rear of it. And that's only because the projector would be far away and I wouldn't hear it. Probably a waste of time to post a pic since you can't really tell how good it looks. But here's my Po' Mans screen. your not crazy, that's exactly what I do as well. I have a one wall that is dedicated to this. if you wanted to take this a step further, there is some special paint you can get exactly for the purpose. I couldn't be bothered, flat white is working fine for me. life is good when you measure your screen size in ft and I use the whole 12 ft for the screen size. It works for me. Maybe sometime I will invest in something screens and such. im a little embarrassed to say but for now im still buying speakers. sheesh... wait, no im not... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minermark Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Moire effect would be VERY discernible as a a pattern... if it's just the fabric you are seeing and no patterning, it's not Moire. If you DO SEE a pattern, there isn't anything you can do about it except to rotate one of the two interference sources(projector or screen). You can TUNE most of a moire pattern out, but not out completely unless your two sources are PERFECTLY aligned. Closest iv come to an acid flashback in years...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappydue Posted June 22, 2014 Author Share Posted June 22, 2014 Each the paint thing would work great IF I didn't have three huge speakers four huge subs I needed to hide. AT is the only way to go. Just an update for everyone. I have been in contact with elite, sent in the pics they asked for. They asked me to box up the piece of p2 screen and send it to them on my dime, and in return will receive the p3 material free. If you look on their site at screen materials the p3 looks much more promising than the p2 material. I'll keep everyone posted as this could be a killer screen for the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cal Blacksmith Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Sweet that they are working with you but bummer it is on your dime. Here is rooting for the next go round to be everything you hoped it would be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Closest iv come to an acid flashback in years...... Oh Really! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxx Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Closest iv come to an acid flashback in years...... Oh Really! Interesting visual effect..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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