rebuy Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 (edited) I was in communication with Bob Crites today concerning the crossovers in my Synergy F-20's He told me that since they are a current model he doesn't have access to schematics for these speakers. He also said that Klipsch typically uses Mylar Caps for the top end with eletrolytics for the low end. Can anyone verify this for me? Edited January 13, 2015 by rebuy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjimbo Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 You could call Klipsch Customer Service, but I'd bet monkeys to jazz bands that they will tell you the same thing (if they know....) Bob knows. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 (edited) Save your money from a f20 xo purchase and get better speakers. Edited January 13, 2015 by Schu 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebuy Posted January 13, 2015 Author Share Posted January 13, 2015 Ya know, I don't really need remarks like that. Condesending. I just wanted to know without you telling me I need better speakers. I'm very happy with mine and it is ME I have to please not my neighbors. Practice being a nicer person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Smith Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 He was being practical, not condescending. The Synergy series is a budget focused speaker. Unless you have a malfunction, you are most likely not going to notice an improvement in your speakers by changing caps in crossovers as you would in something like a Heritage series speaker. Your money would be better spent on moving up the Klipsch speaker line than just focusing on crossover upgrades. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebuy Posted January 13, 2015 Author Share Posted January 13, 2015 Well, Mr. Smith, Thanks for your opinion. If I'm not mistaken, the tweeter used in the Synergy line is the same tweeter that is used in another line, if I read all the comments and literature correctly. The major difference being in between the Synergy line and the Reference line is the copper spun Woof/Mid units and each use the aluminum LTS Tweeter. I happen to think the "white" IMG Woof/Mid units work just fine. Maybe some of you need to give them another listen. The Synergy might be a "budget speaker" although I don't consider a 400 dollar budget speaker to sound like a 100 dollar "budget speaker". So yes, even your remarks are on the cutting edge of condesending because your basically telling me I have a piece of junk. Prove to me that the tweeters in my Synergy are different than the tweeters in the Reference Series and I'll retract my statements. What say you Mr. Smith? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Cawley Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 They are low cost speakers, they will certainly use bi-polar electrolytics for the LF units and some sort of poly for the HF. That is assuming they don't just use a choke only for LF ? Why not have a look ? Dave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjimbo Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Well, Mr. Smith, Thanks for your opinion. If I'm not mistaken, the tweeter used in the Synergy line is the same tweeter that is used in another line, if I read all the comments and literature correctly. The major difference being in between the Synergy line and the Reference line is the copper spun Woof/Mid units and each use the aluminum LTS Tweeter. I happen to think the "white" IMG Woof/Mid units work just fine. Maybe some of you need to give them another listen. The Synergy might be a "budget speaker" although I don't consider a 400 dollar budget speaker to sound like a 100 dollar "budget speaker". So yes, even your remarks are on the cutting edge of condesending because your basically telling me I have a piece of junk. Prove to me that the tweeters in my Synergy are different than the tweeters in the Reference Series and I'll retract my statements. What say you Mr. Smith? Take this any way you want, but you are walking a fine line as a "new" member of this forum between being ignored in the future, or being flamed immediately, and then being ignored. I would recommend you put your attitude on the shelf and listen to the advice of those that have been around for a good long time...Try a little "honey" for a while, and then see what happens.... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minermark Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 I believe "Mustang Guy" is a rather good source on stock circuits, he has chimed in with more than iv ever seen before. I think he has created his own "Data Bank" of all things Klipsch. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebuy Posted January 13, 2015 Author Share Posted January 13, 2015 Well, Mr. Smith, Thanks for your opinion. If I'm not mistaken, the tweeter used in the Synergy line is the same tweeter that is used in another line, if I read all the comments and literature correctly. The major difference being in between the Synergy line and the Reference line is the copper spun Woof/Mid units and each use the aluminum LTS Tweeter. I happen to think the "white" IMG Woof/Mid units work just fine. Maybe some of you need to give them another listen. The Synergy might be a "budget speaker" although I don't consider a 400 dollar budget speaker to sound like a 100 dollar "budget speaker". So yes, even your remarks are on the cutting edge of condesending because your basically telling me I have a piece of junk. Prove to me that the tweeters in my Synergy are different than the tweeters in the Reference Series and I'll retract my statements. What say you Mr. Smith? Take this any way you want, but you are walking a fine line as a "new" member of this forum between being ignored in the future, or being flamed immediately, and then being ignored. I would recommend you put your attitude on the shelf and listen to the advice of those that have been around for a good long time...Try a little "honey" for a while, and then see what happens.... Why do I have to "try a little honey" after asking a legit question? I wanted real tech info if anyone had it and didn't think I had to kiss anyone's rump to get it and without being insulted. Maybe you think Newbee's have to cowtow to "seasoned members". I've been around a long time too. You're the one here with the attitude problem but thanks for your elitist imput. Maybe Newbee's here should be warned that legit questions will be answered by snobs who threaten them with "being ignored". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebuy Posted January 13, 2015 Author Share Posted January 13, 2015 They are low cost speakers, they will certainly use bi-polar electrolytics for the LF units and some sort of poly for the HF. That is assuming they don't just use a choke only for LF ? Why not have a look ? Dave Thanks Dave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjimbo Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Well, Mr. Smith, Thanks for your opinion. If I'm not mistaken, the tweeter used in the Synergy line is the same tweeter that is used in another line, if I read all the comments and literature correctly. The major difference being in between the Synergy line and the Reference line is the copper spun Woof/Mid units and each use the aluminum LTS Tweeter. I happen to think the "white" IMG Woof/Mid units work just fine. Maybe some of you need to give them another listen. The Synergy might be a "budget speaker" although I don't consider a 400 dollar budget speaker to sound like a 100 dollar "budget speaker". So yes, even your remarks are on the cutting edge of condesending because your basically telling me I have a piece of junk. Prove to me that the tweeters in my Synergy are different than the tweeters in the Reference Series and I'll retract my statements. What say you Mr. Smith? Take this any way you want, but you are walking a fine line as a "new" member of this forum between being ignored in the future, or being flamed immediately, and then being ignored. I would recommend you put your attitude on the shelf and listen to the advice of those that have been around for a good long time...Try a little "honey" for a while, and then see what happens.... Why do I have to "try a little honey" after asking a legit question?I wanted real tech info if anyone had it and didn't think I had to kiss anyone's rump to get it and without being insulted. Maybe you think Newbee's have to cowtow to "seasoned members". I've been around a long time too. You're the one here with the attitude problem but thanks for your elitist imput. Maybe Newbee's here should be warned that legit questions will be answered by snobs who threaten them with "being ignored". Bye bye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Smith Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Look, I know you came here guns blazing and ready for a defensive fight after sour experiences with the Polk forums. And yet you were received warmly. Very few people mess with crossovers in any speaker outside of the Heritage line. The most common is a resistor mod to the RF-7/RC-7 speakers to tame some harshness. Your speakers aren't old enough for the caps to be degraded in performance, nor are the crossovers a critical component when evaluating the speaker as a whole. I'm not dogging you for your speaker choice. It's my opinion, however, that messing with the crossovers in your particular speakers for the hope of sonic improvement is a waste of money. Money which could be put towards a speaker higher up the Klipsch ladder which will net you sonic improvement. So lighten up a little and don't enter every conversation in defensive mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Smith Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 I happen to think the "white" IMG Woof/Mid units work just fine. then why are you bothering with the crossovers???? if nothing's broken, what are you trying to fix? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebuy Posted January 13, 2015 Author Share Posted January 13, 2015 Maybe I should ask this way..... I want some info about my crossovers. I know I'm just a stupid newbee and need superior members with superior equipment to tell me where I went wrong. Try not to "flame me" for asking legit questions because I'm just so stupid. When you insult me and my choices I'll keep my mouth shut and yeild to you guys with a Bigger Budget than me. Please for give me for being a Lower line owner. Damn Klipsch for luring me in with that Cheap Synergy Line. I'll just crawl back in my hole now and wait for members to tell me how bad my choice of Klipsch Synergy was. I like being Black and Blue, Hit me with your Best Shot. Sincerely, John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebuy Posted January 13, 2015 Author Share Posted January 13, 2015 Look, I know you came here guns blazing and ready for a defensive fight after sour experiences with the Polk forums. And yet you were received warmly. Very few people mess with crossovers in any speaker outside of the Heritage line. The most common is a resistor mod to the RF-7/RC-7 speakers to tame some harshness. Your speakers aren't old enough for the caps to be degraded in performance, nor are the crossovers a critical component when evaluating the speaker as a whole. I'm not dogging you for your speaker choice. It's my opinion, however, that messing with the crossovers in your particular speakers for the hope of sonic improvement is a waste of money. Money which could be put towards a speaker higher up the Klipsch ladder which will net you sonic improvement. So lighten up a little and don't enter every conversation in defensive mode. All I did was ask a question. A legit question. I'm not the one who talked down to another forum member. I'll reconsider this forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjimbo Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Try the Bose forum 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willland Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 All I did was ask a question. A legit question. I'm not the one who talked down to another forum member. I'll reconsider this forum. Please don't reconsider this forum. We really do have a very helpful and knowledgeable community here and most of the time very welcoming. While I do agree with some of the advice given to you, the manner in which it was given "might" be considered by "some" as not warm and fuzzy. Please give our "family" a chance and start from the beginning with your original questions. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willland Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Try the Bose forum Come on, we can do better than that. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike stehr Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 I've been on these message boards for quite some time...and have read many of Schu's posts. Trust me, he was being condescending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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