Vinyl - Record Spinning

[Marvel]

1 hour ago, Full Range said:

So I decided to give a gum glue clean - Have a look at the colour of the glue on a white background 

Did it sound better? You didn't say.

[Full Range]

1 hour ago, Klipsch104db said:

How long did you let it dry before peeling?

Overnight per side 

[Full Range]

1 hour ago, Tim Sr. said:

I know, I know... I never listen...

To everyone here thank you for the participation in the humor, it has brightened my day!

 

@Full Range what brand is your glue? may I ask

 

 

Locally in AU it’s studymate gum glue    https://www.officeworks.com.au/shop/officeworks/p/clear-gum-glue-125ml-ssjbgum125#features
 

For the US 

‘It’s clear Gum Glue - not PVA 

Available in any school or craft supply outlet 

 

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@Marvel

Yes it sounded much better 

[Tim Sr.]

That is the reason I asked the brand. In the USA it is not common to stop at a hardware store and buy a Gum glue. Since Gum refers to a sap typically (Gum Arabic, Mastic, Dragon tears, Amber...) just not commonly found over here. As a violin maker, working with various types of varnish, these are common materials, most of what my adhesion is made up from, and I ?might? have a bottle of PVA here somewhere. The only Gum Glue I did find on Amazon US is 91% water and 9% Polyvinyl Alcohol, not Polyvinyl Acetate such as Tite Bond. There are many white glues out there, some PVA, some Casein based,  and some of variations on the themes.

From what I "could" find, the Studymate gum glue is most likely based on Mastic, and or Gum Arabic, the MSDS does (Will) not say.

It works! and others say PVA does too. As long as it can be removed without damaging the vinyl, I say go for it! Heck maple syrup should work a little, just be sure to get it washed off well, I do not think the stylus would like the change in velocity. Dried Syrup would surely rip that stylus out in a heart beat. Silly putty!, Auto body clay, so many things that could be pressed into a groove and attach to the dust, lifting it out.. works for me! A nice wash will also do a lot to remove the dirt and grime, and of course that opens the barn door to the obvious chemicals and degrading the vinyl.

With the advent of the more sensitive cartridge and stylus, we do want to clean and preserve our collection, preserve the stylus from hitting the potholes in the road, so it makes perfect sense to experiment with new ideas on how to clean, and follow that path of "Discovery" of what works the best for you.

It is just as important to do a good preen after playing that album, good sleeves and proper storage.

Just my thoughts here and a big thank you to @Full Range for the tips and advice here today.

Good stchuphff!

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[Marvel]

I know folks have used Titebond, but other PVAs should also work. This article describes doing it:

 

https://everyrecordtellsastory.com/2015/05/25/how-to-deep-clean-your-vinyl-records-with-wood-glue-and-ten-things-that-you-shouldnt-use-to-clean-your-lps/

[Marvel]

5 hours ago, Dave1291 said:

Welcome back but most of us never took a pause for the cause whatever that may be.  It only took me 1 CD to realize the difference.  I applied "Just Say NO!  

 

.  @Travis In Austin pretty much nailed it.  "I have to tell you man. In listening to sound, I guess what I'm after is the closest thing that I can get to reality. Now, I know it's not going to be reality, cause the thing gotta go through wires and gotta go through filters and this and that. I understand all that. But what I really like is to get as close to the natural sound of the instruments as possible. That's why I like analog as opposed to digital. Because I don't give a shit what anybody tells you man, I know what you guys are going to tell me...'Oh yeah, but it's clean Ray!' Well it's clean but it don't got no balls!!!" - 1999 interview with Ray Charles

 

5 hours ago, Tim Sr. said:

I NEED MORE SPACE!!!

The bigger problem with digital recording is the way the recordings can get messed up with all the manipulation that can be done.If you used an analogue mix desk and fed it into a digital recording device today, you will get a better recording. Even Ray Charles was using digital technology late is his career, when the were remastering his material. I had an article with an engineer who worked with him and he said R.C. was fine with it.

 

No tape alignments, no oxide issues or speed problems. Vinyl is great for being able to see the pictures on the cover and to read the liner notes. I have a collection of vinyl and keep a turntable. Like any medium, there are good to great recordings, and those that go the other way, too. I've lots of great CDs. I just hope I'll be able to always have a CD player that works.

[Full Range]

24 minutes ago, Tim Sr. said:

It works! and others say PVA does too. As long as it can be removed without damaging the vinyl, I say go for it!

I agree with this comment - as long as the job can be done without damage then it’s OK 

 

Using gum glue for me was a decision made after experiencing issues with PVA glue not releasing its bond and I had to soak the record over night to remove the glue, and that took about 30 min for one side (lucky it was a test record) 

[MicroMara]

5 hours ago, Klipsch104db said:

First pressing sounded dull with Ortofon 2m blue. Full, lively, and dynamic with new Rega Ania MC.

You can´t compare an entry level mm against the upper mc class ! Gentleman ...for your kind attention some facts about the Ania MC , this is how it looks like 😁

 

 

The Rega Ania Pro is the latest addition to the Rega MC range and uses an advanced Nude Diamond Stylus with Vital Profile. This profile has been developed to extract as much detail as possible from the vinyl surface. The Ania Pro offers tight, deep, warm mids and precise peak frequencies for balanced and detailed music reproduction. Load settings for adjustable MC stages , Impedance -100 Ohm , Capacitance - 1000pF

 

[MicroMara]

a special offer for our age group 😁

 

[Klipsch104db]

35 minutes ago, MicroMara said:

You can´t compare an entry level mm against the upper mc class ! Gentleman ...for your kind attention some facts about the Ania MC , this is how it looks like 😁

 

 

The Rega Ania Pro is the latest addition to the Rega MC range and uses an advanced Nude Diamond Stylus with Vital Profile. This profile has been developed to extract as much detail as possible from the vinyl surface. The Ania Pro offers tight, deep, warm mids and precise peak frequencies for balanced and detailed music reproduction. Load settings for adjustable MC stages , Impedance -100 Ohm , Capacitance - 1000pF

 

Installed Ania on Planer 3 about a month ago. Skeptical at first. High frequencies where shrill. After 25 hours the highs have mellowed out. Bass is spectacular! It's a whole new listening experience!!

[Full Range]

A very influential album full of sensual auditory pleasures in an experimental form 

The music creeps up on you to first hold onto to ones thoughts and only stops when the track finishes 

 

What a wonderful feeling

 

Artist - Fripp and Eno

Title - No Pussyfooting 

 

2 hours ago, Klipsch104db said:

Installed Ania on Planer 3 about a month ago. Skeptical at first. High frequencies where shrill. After 25 hours the highs have mellowed out. Bass is spectacular! It's a whole new listening experience!!

 

 

Looks like it will sting like a bee 🐝 

[Full Range]

Moving on to another Fripp collaboration 

This time with a hybrid techno synth  / jazz rock improvisation 

 

Its a record release that grows on you the more one listens to it 

 

‘’Artist - Andy Summers, Robert Fripp 

‘Title – Bewitched

 

[dirtmudd]

16 hours ago, Full Range said:

 

OK now that we have had some side splitting laughs 

This is a new Tubular Bells LP that sounded dull even after ultrasonic cleaning

So I decided to give a gum glue clean - Have a look at the colour of the glue on a white background 

 

 

 

 

[dirtmudd]

 

 

 

[Klipsch104db]

I can hear the hound dogs on my trail

All hell breaks loose, alarm and sirens wail

Like the game if you lose

Go to jail

Tonight there's gonna be a jailbreak

Somewhere in the town

Tonight there's gonna be a jailbreak

So don't you be around

Tonight there's gonna trouble

I'm gonna find myself in

Tonight there's gonna be a jailbreak

So woman stay with a friend

You know it's safer

Breakout!

[Klipsch104db]

Top to bottom

Original Mono 6 Eye

New Analog Productions 

Early 1960s "360 Sound" Stereo

 

The Analog Productions is the most musical. But its also cool to listen to 60+ year old records that sound fantastic.

 

[Full Range]

Sunday evening Prog 

 

An album that some say surpassed the debut album and I would personally give this album very high marks 

 

Artist - King Crimson 

‘Title - Larks Tongues In Aspic 

 

[AndreG.]

 

https://www.discogs.com/release/4720815-Toto-Hydra

 

[Klipsch104db]

Took a day off of vinyl spinning. MQA streaming today.

[MicroMara]

Rain, Rain Rain.......it sucks a lot, but gives time to listen to some records is afternoon

 

Imelda May " 11 past the hour "

 

 

Sting ( ex Police Band Leader ) with his second solo album " Nothing like the sun "

 

 

Peter Gabriel " US "

 

 

after dinner a bit of live JazzRock

 

Jean Luc Ponty " Live " USA 1978

 

 

and Jan Akkerman " Live in Montreaux " 1978