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8 minutes ago, JohnJ said:

Nope I meant Christmas without the prefix of the name of the reason for the season is WRONG!

 

You are wrong about that.  Xmas goes way back in Christian history.  The letter X was used as a secret shorthand in the early days referring to the Cross and Christ.  During the persecution Christians used it as a way to avoid the persecutors and signal others.  Look it up.  Something like that anyway.  Here are a few sources regarding the language:

https://www.dictionary.com/e/xmas-christogram/

http://www.crivoice.org/symbols/xmasorigin.html

 

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3 minutes ago, JohnJ said:

@oldtimer

Don't you realize by now that I do not subscribe to your point of view?

Go back to my post edited for a start of the meaning.  It is not a point of view.  

Here's another source:

https://jakubmarian.com/etymology-of-the-words-christmas-and-xmas/

 

We are talking simple history my hostile friend.

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2 minutes ago, oldtimer said:

New Zealand isn't also down under?  It sure is from here....

When Crowe was four years old, the family, which has Welsh, Māori, Norwegian, Scottish and Italian ancestors, emigrated to Australia. So he is Australian after all

 

 

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