diamonddelts Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 Any other active crossover options outside of Xilica since they now seem to be no longer available in North America? Any suggestions are welcome. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigantic Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 I've just started using a Dayton Audio DSP-408 and am quite pleased with its performance, bi-amping my speakers with an Emotiva Mini-X A100 on the woofers and a 15WPC PP EL-84 tube amp driving the horns; it's a great value. Many others are using Mini-DSP crossovers and I've seen a thread or two about using car audio actives, though I was less than impressed with the Timpano Audio TPT-SP4-BT. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvel Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 A few here have also used the DBX Driverack Venue360. It can handle digital or analog inputs and six outputs. I also have one, but still putting pieces together for my system. The Ashly is also good, but I don't know which model is the best. https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/635994-REG/Ashly_A1VA00690_Protea_4_8SP_4.html 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave MacKay Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 I’ve got a MiniDSP Flex Eight (2 in, 8 out) that I’ll be using with my La Scalas and two subwoofers. I’ve only just acquired it and the necessary amps and haven’t started working on configuring it yet. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 On 6/11/2023 at 11:14 PM, diamonddelts said: Any other active crossover options outside of Xilica EV Dx38 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 There's a Yamaha unit that has been used by some folks with success. I don't remember the model number, though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 3 hours ago, Islander said: There's a Yamaha unit that has been used by some folks with success. I don't remember the model number, though. Yamaha DME7 is meant for very large halls minimum 64 channels , up to 256 , or the DME24 for smaller applications up to 24 channels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvel Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 This Yamaha has been used by some folks on here, although it is now discontinued. It's a 2 in, 6 out, 96Khz sampling rate. I think the EV Dx38 is also discontinued, and it only has a 48Kz sampling rate. It was used by a lot of folks here when the Underground Jubilees were first getting out from under the covers. https://usa.yamaha.com/products/proaudio/processors/sp2060/index.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrestonTom Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 11 minutes ago, Marvel said: This Yamaha has been used by some folks on here, although it is now discontinued. It's a 2 in, 6 out, 96Khz sampling rate. I think the EV Dx38 is also discontinued, and it only has a 48Kz sampling rate. It was used by a lot of folks here when the Underground Jubilees were first getting out from under the covers. https://usa.yamaha.com/products/proaudio/processors/sp2060/index.html Yes, I was one the guys. They are discontinued, but used ones are sometimes available ($600-700 range). They accept a digital or analog input (AES or coax SPDIF). 8 input filters and 6 output filters (per section). The interface is a bit clumsy however. My unit might be up for sale sometime (PM if serious) If you are looking to experiment, then there is also the Behringer DCX2496. The have a ton of features but some question their reliability, but they are quite affordable. I have a new in box unit that I'm wiling to let go (PM if serious). DSP is definitely the way to go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babadono Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 Adorama claims they can still get you an Electro Voice DC-1. Cory cannot get you a Xilica xp-4080? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babadono Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 Yamaha model is SP2060. I bought a used one from Canada a few years back. The SW that runs it is incredible...made to run LARGE systems in arenas etc....the SP2060 would just one small piece in a system like those. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrestonTom Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 1 hour ago, babadono said: Yamaha model is SP2060. I bought a used one from Canada a few years back. The SW that runs it is incredible...made to run LARGE systems in arenas etc....the SP2060 would just one small piece in a system like those. Did you have difficulty getting the SW installed and recognizing the unit? Or was it just me who was an idiot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babadono Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 1 minute ago, PrestonTom said: Did you have difficulty getting the SW installed and recognizing the unit? Or was it just me who was an idiot? By myself? no way...had to get help from someone here at work with much more networking knowledge. So no you are not an idiot. I have heard some give up and just use the front panel controls...UUUGHHHH. I'll bet Yamaha gave pros training probably at their facilities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babadono Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 https://www.proaudiosolutions.com/Xilica-XP-4080-4-in-8-out-Loudspeaker-Controller-p/xp-4080.htm Are these guys pulling my leg? you want me to call them for you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 6 hours ago, OO1 said: Yamaha DME7 is meant for very large halls minimum 64 channels , up to 256 , or the DME24 for smaller applications up to 24 channels The SP2060 is the model I was thinking of, but it's discontinued, and the current models don't seem quite right for a home application. Another factor is that it's best to use the settings that Roy arrived at after very detailed testing, and they may not translate accurately to newer processors. This suggests that the Electro-Voice Dx38, the Yamaha SP2060, or the Xilica would be the best choices for Jubilee-type speakers. Man, the years can really fly by. I can hardly believe that I've had the JubScalas for 15 years. Back in 2008, there seemed to be lots of activity involving the Underground Jubilee, or as it was called, the Jubilee. Once everyone who wanted a pair of them got them, activity slowly tapered off as the last few tweaks were carried out and shared, so by 2015 there was more listening and enjoying than posting about them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 2 hours ago, Islander said: The SP2060 is the model I was thinking off I wonder if it's as quiet as the Xilica Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrestonTom Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 It is quiet - there is no fan. As far as noise floor in the electronics, I have not noticed any problem. I keep my volume control after the DSP & right before the amp, so any self noise would be attenuated when I attenuate the signal. When these were in production (about 10-15 years ago) they were a bit over $2,000 new. IOW, they are not junk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babadono Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 14 hours ago, OO1 said: I wonder if it's as quiet as the Xilica I think 001 was referring to signal noise not acoustical (fan, transformer) noise. I have never tried it side by side but I am thinking they're comparable if the noise gate, which Xilica calls the Internal System Optimizer (ISO), is turned off in the Xilica. To my knowledge the Yamaha does not have a noise gate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockhound Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 The mini dsp units are a good value for the money. I also use the dbx pa2. Really like the dbx app to configure the unit via my ipad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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