neo33 Posted December 27, 2004 Share Posted December 27, 2004 The latest figures nearing 24,000 of which half are children. Perhaps, the other half are their parents? If the children are in heaven with God, why worry? We only need to concern about the living! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodger Posted December 27, 2004 Share Posted December 27, 2004 ---------------- On 12/27/2004 10:09:19 PM neo33 wrote: The latest figures nearing 24,000 of which half are children. Perhaps, the other half are their parents? If the children are in heaven with God, why worry? We only need to concern about the living! ---------------- NEO: We worry about them because they existed and they died. It leads to worry about the Living. Every person that lives deserves to be known and to be cared for in their death. dodger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m00n Posted December 27, 2004 Share Posted December 27, 2004 ---------------- On 12/27/2004 10:09:19 PM neo33 wrote: The latest figures nearing 24,000 of which half are children. Perhaps, the other half are their parents? If the children are in heaven with God, why worry? We only need to concern about the living! ---------------- While there is truth to that, what distrubs me is the horror they felt durring their death. Not sure if you have children or not Neo, but I have two children, two boys ages 3 and 6. I get the mental image of them being in that situation and it rips my heart out of my chest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike stehr Posted December 27, 2004 Share Posted December 27, 2004 Another thing: imagine this happening off the West Coast or off New England. There is some Chunks of the Hawaiian islands that can literally slide/fall off a said island and make a big ol' mess out of the west coast. Big chunks. Splash! Tsunami! It appears the ring of fire is getting restless. Mt. St. Helens is pretty much always active. Imagine Mt.Rainer, Mt. Adams, Baker, Shasta, all the way down to Mexico. All the world's Monster Volcanos decide to fire up. Can you say Nuclear Winter? It would probably only take a handfull of big-assed Volcanos to do it. Maybe God is disgusted that the Earth is saturated with too many humans. Some think of the Earth as a "being" or a "Entity", and it's pissed.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodog Posted December 27, 2004 Share Posted December 27, 2004 Contribute directly to the relief efforts! Donate to the International Red Cross http://www.ifrc.org/helpnow/donate/donate_response.asp (be patient, it's busy, as you can imagine) There's also the fantastic United Nations Children's Fund. http://www.unicef.org/infobycountry/indonesia_24608.html Everyone here is richer than 90% of the world. $25.00 to either of these great organizations directly helping the Tsunami victims would give you a warm fuzzy. (fini! what an opening!) Whaddaya waiting for? Do it! Forrest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3dzapper Posted December 27, 2004 Share Posted December 27, 2004 ---------------- On 12/27/2004 10:38:00 PM mike stehr wrote: Another thing: imagine this happening off the West Coast or off New England. There is some Chunks of the Hawaiian islands that can literally slide/fall off a said island and make a big ol' mess out of the west coast. Big chunks. Splash! Tsunami! It appears the ring of fire is getting restless. Mt. St. Helens is pretty much always active. Imagine Mt.Rainer, Mt. Adams, Baker, Shasta, all the way down to Mexico. All the world's Monster Volcanos decide to fire up. Can you say Nuclear Winter? It would probably only take a handfull of big-assed Volcanos to do it. Maybe God is disgusted that the Earth is saturated with too many humans. Some think of the Earth as a "being" or a "Entity", and it's pissed.... ---------------- http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5652141/ m00n, There is a report of a baby being found alive floating on a matress off Malasia. Miracles do happen. Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenratboy Posted December 27, 2004 Share Posted December 27, 2004 ---------------- On 12/27/2004 10:38:00 PM mike stehr wrote: Maybe God is disgusted that the Earth is saturated with too many humans. Some think of the Earth as a "being" or a "Entity", and it's pissed.... ---------------- Wouldn't that make God pro-choice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike stehr Posted December 27, 2004 Share Posted December 27, 2004 I shoulda seen that coming....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davmar Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 ---------------- On 12/27/2004 2:38:49 PM Allan Songer wrote: ---------------- On 12/27/2004 2:52:57 AM kenratboy wrote: Another thing: imagine this happening off the West Coast or off New England. We are better prepaired for earthquakes and all, but a tsunami is something that is almost impossibly to prepare for. ---------------- It happened in California in 1964 http://crescentcity95531.com/SG2_Tsunamipiledcars.gif" width=288 border=2> http://crescentcity95531.com/Sg2_f1.gif" width=288 border=2> Very small town. Lots of advance warning. I was there visiting my Aunt and Uncle for Easter. The water came to within about 50 yards of their property. I was just a kid but I'll never forget that day . . . ---------------- I remember that day too songster, I was in the earthquake that made that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davmar Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 ---------------- On 12/27/2004 9:53:18 PM m00n wrote: ---------------- On 12/27/2004 9:32:17 PM neo33 wrote: "God? What God? Where was God when all those children where dying?" Have you no faith in your own God, m00n? ---------------- I'm loosing it. ---------------- Hook up with the prez mood I am sure his church will bring you around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdm56 Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 God gave life. Death was brought about by sin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuisis Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 That makes no sense what so ever. All those babies that died could not have committed so called sins. What in the heck is wrong with people! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Songer Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 You don't understand the fear of the average Protestant who is quaking in the hands of an angry God. Go read some Knox, Luther and Edwards. We are BORN sinners and no level of "innocence" can protect us from the wrath of God. No amount of "good works" can help lead us to salvation. We are only saved through the grace of God and it has NOTHING to do with how we live our lives or even if we "accept" Jesus as our saviour. It's a brutal and razor sharp version of Christianity . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuisis Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 Allan Unfortunatly I understand. It's ashame that people always look to blame or give credit to a higher power for an unfortunate event such as this. It's easy to look upon this from ivory towers and pass judgement. I'm glad I was raised to have my own beliefs and make my own judgement, and not blame something else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gcoker Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 We are not Sinners because we sin...We sin because we are Sinners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuisis Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 and who determines what a sin is? Let me get this straight, an all knowing, all powerful being decides to kill 30,000+ people in some of the most economically distressed places of the world because it's angry at the ways of the world? How Logical. It's amazing to me that such technically orinted people can debate the best capaciter for a crossover for hours based upon electronic design, but when it comes to a geological disaster it's always God or some higher being. Strange world we live in isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gcoker Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 God does. First he tolld men through the Ten Commandments and now we know it through the Holy Spirit in each one of us. Some call it their conscience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuisis Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 Who's god determines sin yours or all the other people who must worship the wrong one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gcoker Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 Do you think murder is wrong? If so why? Who told you it's wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fini Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 See this film. Seriously! m00n, I'm talkin' to you! Good rec, Woodog! I cannot follow through with giving donators warm fuzzies, but I can give each one a furry wedgie next time they're in town... OK, back to the God debate. Oh, did I mention that film? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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