msst Posted May 31, 2005 Share Posted May 31, 2005 I originally wanted Klipschorn's but due to problems getting it new from dealers not knowing they could get them, or unwilling to do any discount at all, I got an invite from a nice guy from my area to come over and listen to his Klipshorn's and RF-7. I had no interest in the RF-7 at all but after the long sessions of listening, I came away very impressed with the RF-7 and it was my overall liking very much. -- I bought a pair of RF-7, and shortly after a used mint pair of KLF-20. I could quickly hear the overall improvents Klipsch has made with the RF-7 compared to KLF-20. The KLF-20 sounds great but compared to the RF-7 it becomes thinner sounding and isn't overall great with different types of music as the RF-7 does all music overall very well and I'm very pleased with the RF-7. The RF-7 have a fuller richer sound than the KLF-20 and it's just down right stunning sound with how accurate and true to the original source. I had my sisters birthday party at my house and while people were here, I asked them to listen to a few songs between the two speakers from the KLF-20 and RF-7 and all 8 people that listened, all like the RF-7 better. Said it was a more richer fuller sound. Nice, smooth, creamy, and very detailed. This is the same why I felt too. -- Three days ago, a local guy talked me into trading him my Mint KLF-20's for his Forte II Mint pair of speakers. They look great, he's the original owner and has taken very good care of them. I noticed right away that the mid range on the Forte II is larger sounding and doesn't sound thin like the KLF-20 did but looking at the Forte's horn it has a little bit longer throat and little larger horn. The bass on the Forte II is impressive for a passive radiator type bass. The KLF-20 has a very good clean tight bass and is very impressive too. -- Comparing the Forte II with the RF-7, the Forte II has an empty type of sound when comparing to the RF-7. The Forte sounds nice but it doesn't get as nice sounding as the RF-7 nor as large soundstage. The RF-7 has the ability to have a huge soundstage! It's very accurate and more true to the sound than any of the past Klipsch products I have tried. The singer sounds really real, as if right in front of you singing. The Klipschorn is just too large of a sound to take real because a person in real life doesn't sound that large when singing, so I just couldn't feel it as real as the RF-7's sound. Some guy stated here before that the RF-7 sound dead compared to the Klipschorn, this is so inaccurate. The RF-7 get almost as loud and big as the Klipschorn, just more of a accurate sound and more in line of life size than beyound that of what the Klipschorn's give. I'm very fortunate to have gotten the chance to hear the RF-7 and Klipschorn side-by-side before I bought my choice of Klipsch speakers and I thank Trevor very much for giving me that chance! Thanks Trevor!!! -- Comparing the KLF-20 and Forte II to the RF-7 have been a disappointment for me, I've decided I'm not going to try anymore past Klipsch speaker to the RF-7 anymore. I'm 100% satisfied with the RF-7 and really feel I have hit music nirvana! I have the RF-7 on an expensive high-end amp and the RF-7's have the ability to just keep sounding better and larger with the more high-quality equipment you give it. It recreates a huge soundstage, but only if your equipment can recreate the huge soundstage too. The RF-7 is truely a great speaker and nothing has sounded as good to me as the RF-7 with my setup. I'm very pleased, I'll be keeping the RF-7 for a very long time. I'm going to buy another pair of RF-7 for a second setup for the bedroom that my girl friend wants me to do. I'm going to sell the Forte II. -- For me, the RF-7 is the only way to go. The RF-7 is very detailed, accurate, smooth, clean, stunning sound that still has me in awe, and the bass is deep tight and clean, no sub is needed with the RF-7! There is a great resolution to the RF-7 that won't be found in any past Klipsch product, nor Klipschorn! Klipsch really deserves a great big hand for their work on the RF-7! Strange because that wasn't how I felt at first. I was listening to too many here but learned a very good lesson, you must go out and listen and compare! You must listen only to yourself and what you like. Try and listen to each and decide for yourself and make sure you run with the right quality equipment for any Klipsch speaker!! Always remember, we all run different equipment and get many different results, so I apply that to why we hear so many different opinions on any speaker. Happy Klipsch-ing! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stan krajewski Posted May 31, 2005 Share Posted May 31, 2005 msst, Thank you for your in depth comparison. It was particularly interesting to me because I owned KLF20's. They were very good but when I got a pair of Heresys, the KLF20's were quickly sold. The midrange on the Heresy's is much fuller and natural. After reading this thread and other related ones, it seems clear to me that the RF-7 is quite the speaker. Given its tiny footprint, reasonable price and the level of satisfaction I have read here, I wonder if the KHorn is worth all the trouble. Great thread! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylanl Posted May 31, 2005 Share Posted May 31, 2005 Where were all of you when I was trying to get rid of my RF7s? It took forever to get anyone to buy them. Yes, they were in perfect shape without a scratch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IB Slammin Posted May 31, 2005 Share Posted May 31, 2005 ---------------- On 5/31/2005 1:15:55 AM edwinr wrote: Why bother with all this Klipsch stuff. Buy America's number one selling brand; "Hear today. Bose tomorrow." ---------------- No highs, no lows, just Blose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinr Posted May 31, 2005 Share Posted May 31, 2005 Great post, msst. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KathyMason Posted May 31, 2005 Share Posted May 31, 2005 Dylanl, Guess no one here local to you saw you were selling them or wasn't in the market for another set of speakers. I saw a pair for sale here before I bought my RF-7's and I just wasn't willing to risk shipping them in fear of damage with these rough handling shipping companys that need to train their peoples to be more careful. I LOVE the sound of my RF-7's as you all already know! I'm happy with mine and staying put with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted May 31, 2005 Share Posted May 31, 2005 Kathy- I said that about my two NAD 2200 when I first got them 8 months ago. One is now in Wisconsin, and the other is now in New England. I am with out any amps until friday when I get a B&K. My point? You start to hang around here to much and you'll end up with k-horns and all sorts of stuff that you never knew you needed! Best, George Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-MAN Posted May 31, 2005 Share Posted May 31, 2005 Is this a trick question? The physics for just the woofers: Khorn - 4 sq. feet of horn mouth EACH. RF7 - 2 x 10" dia direct radiators EACH. Khorn = 600 sq. inches total radiating area RF7 = 31.4 sq. inches total radiating area Which one do you think is more efficient and better for reproducing low bass notes by moving air? DM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IB Slammin Posted May 31, 2005 Share Posted May 31, 2005 ---------------- On 5/31/2005 5:43:13 PM KathyMason wrote: Dylanl, Guess no one here local to you saw you were selling them or wasn't in the market for another set of speakers. I saw a pair for sale here before I bought my RF-7's and I just wasn't willing to risk shipping them in fear of damage with these rough handling shipping companys that need to train their peoples to be more careful. I LOVE the sound of my RF-7's as you all already know! I'm happy with mine and staying put with them. ------------ Kat, what PWK design speakers have you had the opportunity to experience? regards, Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KathyMason Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 I've heard the Klipschorn's but I don't think the dealer had them setup well. The Carver Pro ZR1600 digital Amp setup sounded too harsh on the Klipschorn so I didn't get the chance to really hear how great they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheelman Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 ---------------- On 5/31/2005 6:17:23 PM D-MAN wrote: Is this a trick question? The physics for just the woofers: Khorn - 4 sq. feet of horn mouth EACH. RF7 - 2 x 10" dia direct radiators EACH. Khorn = 600 sq. inches total radiating area RF7 = 31.4 sq. inches total radiating area Which one do you think is more efficient and better for reproducing low bass notes by moving air? DM ---------------- I feel a fuller bass from a bigger woofer. So I will say the Khorn. More little woofers may play lower, but they don't seem to fill a room quicker. Like a bucket of water what's going to fill a pool quicker? The bigger bucket or a couple of smaller buckets?.LOL ok that didn't work out how I planned it. But you may get the idea especially with single woofer comparison ( big vs. small ). The sound waves are just bigger with a bigger woofer. So the bigger woofer will fill a room much more efficently. Smaller woofers sometimes tend to sound tighter. Because of the narrow sound In my screwed up opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylanl Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 ---------------- On 5/31/2005 5:43:13 PM KathyMason wrote: Dylanl, Guess no one here local to you saw you were selling them or wasn't in the market for another set of speakers. I saw a pair for sale here before I bought my RF-7's and I just wasn't willing to risk shipping them in fear of damage with these rough handling shipping companys that need to train their peoples to be more careful. I LOVE the sound of my RF-7's as you all already know! I'm happy with mine and staying put with them. ---------------- I did not sell out totally. I sold them to Zman from the forum and I kept my Klipschorns. I guess I may still be able to post at least for a little while longer. Kathy is that your picture on your posts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KathyMason Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 Yes, it is. That picture was taken in 2000. I need a more recent one but I still look the same! I still get carded too, that's a good thing right! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylanl Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 With this crowd being 99.9% male, you will have no problem getting answers to any of your questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KlipsDude Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 da Dude -D-MAN- had tis to say in class today, the only smart *ss (bleep) in da room. ================================================================= Is this a trick question? The physics for just the woofers: Khorn - 4 sq. feet of horn mouth EACH. RF7 - 2 x 10" dia direct radiators EACH. Khorn = 600 sq. inches total radiating area RF7 = 31.4 sq. inches total radiating area Which one do you think is more efficient and better for reproducing low bass notes by moving air? ================================================================== D-MAN, Like Dude, you need to take your seat and sit back down. Dude, where you been? Technology often defies terminology and logicality Dude! Dude, like your getting old, our new days are not like your old days. Sit back down and listen and learn. Oh yea, and Kathy Mason, like hubba hubba!!!!!!!!!!!!! yummy yum yum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxg Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 "I still get carded too, that's a good thing right!" Can anyone translate that? Doesnt mean a thing to me? Carded? Red card? Sent off the playing field? Birthday card? Valentines card? Xmas card? Credit card? Discount members only limited edition card? Amex? Winer's club? I know when you explain it I am going to say - what a dummy - but it has been bothering me for the last 24 hours or so. Please???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben. Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 Max- It means they ask for ID when she tries to buy booze. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psg Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 ---------------- On 6/2/2005 9:59:09 AM maxg wrote: "I still get carded too, that's a good thing right!" Can anyone translate that? Doesnt mean a thing to me? Carded? Red card? Sent off the playing field? Birthday card? Valentines card? Xmas card? Credit card? Discount members only limited edition card? Amex? Winer's club? I know when you explain it I am going to say - what a dummy - but it has been bothering me for the last 24 hours or so. Please???? ---------------- It means she gets asked for ID to get into bars to prove that she's of legal drinking age. She looks young. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxg Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 PSG and Ben, I wouldnt have got that one in a thousand years. Thanks. Actually I dont feel all that dumb now I know the answer - although I might appear that way to you. We never had ID cards in the UK and now I live in Greece I carry my passport everywhere instead. Not been asked to produce that in a long time. Actually you reminded me of the last time I was asked, about 15 years ago on a Greek island. I was hiring a motorbike to drive around the island. "Can you prove you are 16?" asked the guy at the counter. "I wish I could" was my reply. Well it was kinda funny at the time - he laughed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frzninvt Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 Geez! I guess I need to trade my two pair of Klipschorn's for RF-7's! Since they reportedly sound better. Uh oh, that would also mean I have to get rid of my La Scala center and Academy to boot. I don't think I could part with my '62 Cornwalls though. If I did I would go with 4 RF-7's an RC-7, and a pair of RB-75's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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