fini Posted October 14, 2006 Share Posted October 14, 2006 What recipe would you suggest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrot Posted October 14, 2006 Share Posted October 14, 2006 To create it or to cure it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seti Posted October 14, 2006 Share Posted October 14, 2006 Some fine Lagavulin Scotch and throw on some Robert Johnson and Louis Armstrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fini Posted October 14, 2006 Author Share Posted October 14, 2006 Paul, you nut! I've already got it! Seti, I'm halfway there, well, maybe 1/4 (at least it's a barley product)...There are ups and downs to that approach... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted October 14, 2006 Moderators Share Posted October 14, 2006 What recipe would you suggest? Heavy doses of Vicoden with some Paxil, Bookers Bourbon can't hurt. That is the fun way, you could consider what the source of the pain is and try and address that but it won't be as much fun. Travis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott0527 Posted October 14, 2006 Share Posted October 14, 2006 Stay away from Jazz? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lwhaples Posted October 14, 2006 Share Posted October 14, 2006 I feel you pain,mine is a 15 year old boy that knows more than me. Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodog Posted October 14, 2006 Share Posted October 14, 2006 Fini my friend, I'm sorry to hear that you have this. Exercise brought me out of depression and eliminated (for now) arthritic joint pain. I also dropped major poundage in the process. What's the cause of your physical pain? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1101 Posted October 14, 2006 Share Posted October 14, 2006 Yes....physical exercise. Then....more physical exercise. Hey woo, your back! Good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jt1stcav Posted October 14, 2006 Share Posted October 14, 2006 If I didn't know you, Gregg, I'd say it's a naggin' wife. Since you don't have one of those...maybe mid-life crisis? A quick cure? Turn on your system and listen to your favorite music through your horns. Works for me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAKO Posted October 14, 2006 Share Posted October 14, 2006 Your cry for help has not gone unnoticed. We can only suggest some small relief ...Tomorrow call your doctor or get a new one.....Good professional help will be needed. Stress to him what its really doing to you...And you dont want it to get out of control. Internal inflamation can lead to heart disease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fini Posted October 14, 2006 Author Share Posted October 14, 2006 Forrest, No doubt the weight is a huge component of the pain. Mainly, it's in my left heel. Achilles tendenitis, with a 3/4" bone spur right up into the tendon. The podiatrist, who I've been seeing for about 6 weeks, says bone spurs in this location are usually not painful. Yeah, right! Now granted, I have not been resting as I should. I've been working every day for the past 8 weeks (OK, I took my birthday off), getting Mom's house fixed up to go on the market (a big rush, as it's the tail end of the "selling season" and the market is shifting heavily in favor of buyers). Well, it's done (been on the market one week, and tomorrow is the first open house), and my body is paying the price. I can hardy walk. Took a forgotten homework assignment to my daughter this week (walking 1/8 mile tops), and I was ruined for the day. It's getting old, dreading stepping out of bed in the morning. At least I can sleep OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djk Posted October 14, 2006 Share Posted October 14, 2006 Ultram is an OK pain reliever, with an interesting side-effect, it's also a SSRI (anti-depressant). It's cheap, and your regular doctor can write a 'script for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Songer Posted October 14, 2006 Share Posted October 14, 2006 You need to get to an MD, buddy! A really good orthopedic guy. Podiatrists are NOT medical doctors!!! And get your butt down here next week--a night at Charlie O's will fix you up good--just ask Gary and Scott!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcarlton Posted October 14, 2006 Share Posted October 14, 2006 Fini, Stretch the tendon (the calf muscle). Hold for 30-seconds and repeat. Ice afterwards. Might even consider taking a coke bottle (hopefully with the ribs), fill 3/4 water, freeze, and rub your left foot back and forth on the bottle. (NSAID) such as ibuprofen will help with the pain and swelling. I've followed this post up with some additional information on heal injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcarlton Posted October 14, 2006 Share Posted October 14, 2006 snip Mainly, it's in my left heel. Achilles tendenitis, with a 3/4" bone spur right up into the tendon. The podiatrist, who I've been seeing for about 6 weeks, says bone spurs in this location are usually not painful. snip The podiatrist is right...it shouldn't be painful. The pain in the morning sounds more like plantar fasciitis. Plantar Fasciitis When your first few steps out of bed in the morning cause severe pain in the heel of your foot, you may have plantar fasciitis (fashee-EYE-tiss). It's an overuse injury affecting the sole or flexor surface (plantar) of the foot. A diagnosis of plantar fasciitis means you have inflamed the tough, fibrous band of tissue (fascia) connecting your heel bone to the base of your toes. You're more likely to get the condition if you're a woman, if you're overweight, or if you have a job that requires a lot of walking or standing on hard surfaces. You're also at risk if you walk or run for exercise, especially if you have tight calf muscles that limit how far you can flex your ankles. People with very flat feet or very high arches are also more prone to plantar fasciitis. The condition starts gradually with mild pain at the heel bone often referred to as a stone bruise. You're more likely to feel it after (not during) exercise. The pain classically occurs again after arising from a midday lunch break. If you don't treat plantar fasciitis, it may become a chronic condition. You may not be able to keep up your level of activity and you may also develop symptoms of foot, knee, hip and back problems because of the way plantar fasciitis changes the way you walk. Treatments Rest is the first treatment for plantar fasciitis. Try to keep weight off your foot until the inflammation goes away. You can also apply ice to the sore area for 20 minutes three or four times a day to relieve your symptoms. Often a doctor will prescribe nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory medication such as ibuprofen. A program of home exercises to stretch your Achilles tendon and plantar fascia are the mainstay of treating the condition and lessening the chance of recurrence. In one exercise, you lean forward against a wall with one knee straight and heel on the ground. Your other knee is bent. Your heel cord and foot arch stretch as you lean. Hold for 10 seconds, relax and straighten up. Repeat 20 times for each sore heel. In the second exercise, you lean forward onto a countertop, spreading your feet apart with one foot in front of the other. Flex your knees and squat down, keeping your heels on the ground as long as possible. Your heel cords and foot arches will stretch as the heels come up in the stretch. Hold for 10 seconds, relax and straighten up. Repeat 20 times. About 90 percent of people with plantar fasciitis improve significantly after two months of initial treatment. You may be advised to use shoes with shock-absorbing soles or fitted with a standard orthotic device like a rubber heel pad. Your foot may be taped into a specific position. If your plantar fasciitis continues after a few months of conservative treatment, your doctor may inject your heel with steroidal anti-inflammatory medications (corticosteroid). If you still have symptoms, you may need to wear a walking cast for 2-3 weeks or positional splint when you sleep. In a few cases, you might need surgery to release your ligament. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcarlton Posted October 14, 2006 Share Posted October 14, 2006 If you have Achilles tendonitis the treatment would be about the same. "Achilles tendonitis is a painful and often debilitating inflammation of the Achilles tendon, also called the heel cord. The Achilles tendon is the largest and strongest tendon in the body. It is located in the back of the lower leg, attaches to the heel bone (calcaneus), and connects the leg muscles to the foot. The Achilles tendon gives us the ability to rise up on our toes, facilitating the act of walking, and Achilles tendonitis can make walking almost impossible. Side View of Foot Back View of Foot & Calf Muscles Click on the images to view a larger version. There are three stages of tendon inflammation: PeritenonitisTendinosisPeritenonitis with tendinosis Peritenonitis is characterized by localized pain during or following activity. As this condition progresses, pain often develops earlier on during activity, with decreased activity, or while at rest. Tendinosis is a degenerative condition that usually does not produce symptoms (i.e., is asymptomatic). It may cause swelling or a hard knot of tissue (nodule) on the back of the leg. Peritenonitis with tendinosis results in pain and swelling with activity. As this condition progresses, partial or complete tendon rupture may occur. Incidence and Prevalence Achilles tendonitis is more common in athletes and overall incidence of the condition is unknown. It occurs in approximately 6?1.8% of runners. Risk Factors and Causes Poorly conditioned athletes are at the highest risk for developing Achilles tendonitis. Participating in activities that involve sudden stops and starts and repetitive jumping (e.g., baseball, basketball, football, tennis, running, dancing) increases the risk for the condition. It often develops following sudden changes in activity level, training on poor surfaces, or wearing inappropriate footwear. Achilles tendonitis may be caused by a single incident of overstressing the tendon, or it may result from a series of stresses that produce small tears over time. The condition also develops in people who exercise infrequently and those who are just beginning an exercise program, because inactive muscles and tendons have little flexibility because of inactivity. It is important for people who are just starting to exercise to stretch properly, start slowly, and increase gradually. In some cases, a congenital (i.e., present at birth) condition causes Achilles tendonitis. Typically, this is due to abnormal rotation of the foot and leg (pronation), which causes the arch of the foot to flatten and the leg to twist more than normal. This condition causes the lower leg muscles (e.g., gastrocnemius, soleus) to stretch more than normal. Like a rubber band, the further the muscles stretch, the tighter they become. The force on the Achilles tendon and the heel bone increases, resulting in Achilles tendonitis. Because the arch of the foot naturally flattens over time, especially in athletes, Achilles tendonitis often develops later in life. Women who wear high-heeled shoes often and switch to sneakers for exercise also can develop Achilles tendonitis. The Achilles tendon and lower leg muscles gradually adapt to a shortened position because the shoes prevent the heel from stretching all the way to the ground. When this occurs, wearing sneakers or flat shoes forces the Achilles tendon to stretch further than it is accustomed to, causing inflammation. If high heels are worn everyday, stretching should be done every morning and night to keep the Achilles tendon lengthened. Signs and Symptoms In most cases, symptoms of Achilles tendonitis develop gradually. Pain may be mild at first and worsen with continued activity. Repeated or continued stress on the Achilles tendon increases inflammation and may cause it to rupture. Partial or complete rupture results in traumatic damage and severe pain, making walking virtually impossible and requiring a long recovery period. Patients with tendinosis may experience a sensation of fullness in the back of the lower leg or develop a hard knot of tissue (nodule). Diagnosis Diagnosis of Achilles tendonitis usually involves taking a patient history, and performing a physical examination and imaging tests (e.g., x-ray, ultrasound). Patient history includes the following: History of prior pain or weakness in the lower legHistory of recreational activityRecent changes in activity level, footwear, or training duration or surface Physical examination involves palpating (i.e., feeling with the fingers) the lower leg for tenderness, swelling, nodules, warmth, and decrease in mass (atrophy). The doctor also measures active and passive range of motion of the knees, ankles, and feet, and determines the resting alignment of the ankles and feet. A Thompson test is performed to detect rupture of the Achilles tendon. In this test, the patient lies face downward on the examining table with bent knees and the doctor squeezes the back of the lower leg (calf). If the Achilles tendon is at least partially intact, this test causes the foot to flex. Imaging tests that may be used to help diagnose Achilles tendonitis include x-ray, ultrasound, and magnetic resonance imaging (MRI scan). X-rays cannot conclusively diagnose the condition, but they may be used to detect soft tissue swelling and heel bone calcifications (i.e., calcium deposits) or fractures. Ultrasound may be used to detect thickening of the Achilles tendon. MRI scan can be used to detect partial tendon rupture and degenerative tendon changes. Treatment Treatment for Achilles tendonitis depends on the severity of the injury. If heel pain, tenderness, swelling, or discomfort in the back of the lower leg occurs, physical activity that produces the symptoms should be discontinued. If the problem returns or persists, a medical professional should be consulted. If pain develops even with proper stretching and training techniques, the patient should consult a podiatrist to check for hyperpronation and adequate arch support. The addition of an orthotic may be enough to maintain good arch and foot alignment and eliminate pain. If damage to the tendon is minor, the injury may respond to a simple course of treatment known as RICE (rest, ice, compression, elevation). Patients are advised to: rest the tendon by keeping off their feet as much as possible; apply ice packs for 20 minutes at a time every hour for a day or two to reduce swelling; compress the ankle and foot with a firmly (not tightly) wrapped elastic bandage; and elevate the foot whenever possible to minimize swelling. A nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drug (NSAID) such as ibuprofen may be used to reduce pain, swelling, and inflammation. Additional treatment may be required if injury to the tendon is severe, if mild Achilles tendonitis does not respond to basic treatment, or if symptoms return with the resumption of physical activity. A flexible cast may be used to immobilize the foot and reduce swelling, and crutches may be used to keep weight off the foot. This treatment may be necessary for up to 8 weeks. If the injury responds to this treatment, the patient may then be advised to wear low-heeled shoes and perform rehabilitation exercises (e.g., physical therapy) to gradually stretch the tendon before full activity is resumed. Severe Achilles tendonitis, tendon rupture, or tearing away from the heel bone may require surgery and lengthy rehabilitation. Surgery involves removing the tendon's inflamed outer covering and reattaching the torn tissues. Following surgery, patients undergo passive range of motion physical therapy and progressive strengthening exercises for 2?3 weeks. Most activities can be resumed in 6?10 weeks and competitive sports usually can be resumed after 3?6 months. Prevention Proper conditioning and appropriate footwear are the best defense against Achilles tendonitis. People who engage in physical activity should always warm up (e.g., jumping jacks, light jogging) and stretch properly before beginning the activity. Cold muscles are inflexible and working them hard without stretching causes excessive stress to the muscles and tendons. If discomfort occurs, the activity should be discontinued immediately and ice should be applied to the affected area to relieve inflammation. If the problem persists or recurs, medical evaluation is necessary. It may be advisable to consult a physical trainer to determine whether a flaw in technique is contributing to the problem." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fini Posted October 14, 2006 Author Share Posted October 14, 2006 Well, the pain is not in the bottom of my heel, it's in the back. Except for this secondary thing, deep cracks in my heel (so deep they bleed). They produce excruciating pain, too. I'm certain it's not plantar fasciitis (I have had that before). I'm wearing orthotics (2 weeks now), which may or may not help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jt1stcav Posted October 14, 2006 Share Posted October 14, 2006 Well, I'm glad I was wrong about a nagging wife! You can learn so much on this forum...all ya gotta do is ask! Gregg, see a specialist if need be to get back in better spirits (and to rid yourself of the discomfort you're in). Good luck, buddy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkyhambone Posted October 14, 2006 Share Posted October 14, 2006 i had plantar fasciatis for two years. it sucked. here is how i was treated. i wore a splint at night when i slept for several months. did not work custom made inserts for both feet (only had it in one foot though) i still wear these today, but was not a cure. i do believe this will help prevent a reoccurrance. i received two cortisone shots. the first one was painless and made me pain free for about 1-2 weeks. the second shot many months later was teeth gritting and hands held up in the air painful, about a week of relief. finally the ossotron (might be misspelled). it was designed for kidney stones. it uses concentrated sound waves to break up the spurs (scar tissue) and dissolve away in the blood stream with no cutting!!!!!!!!!! i have been pain free for 2 years now. i also resumed my exercise routine. i was unable to do so when i had the spurs. the exercise is key for feeling good. it sucks at first because of the soreness, but ease into it. after a few weeks, you will look forward to it and be pissed when you miss a workout. you got to do it. exercise will take care of so many nuisance pains not to mention an increased energy level. it also helps me keep my girly figure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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