halfadeck Posted February 3, 2002 Share Posted February 3, 2002 hi all anyone have an opinion on a yamaharxv3200?I got my choices of reciever down to a few denon3802 or 4802(if i can find a good enough deal),onkyotxds898 or txds797,yamaharxv3000 or 2200, marantz sr8200.Was thinking about the sonystrda5es but too many people been saying stay away. I'm edging towards the yamaharxv3200(that thing looks sweet)but havent been able to hear it I think it just came out. Any opinions would be great. Thanks ahead of time for your input! ------------------ turn it up hmmph i said turn it up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HornEd Posted February 3, 2002 Share Posted February 3, 2002 Look at 'em closely, Halfadeck! You might also check out the upscale HK, I'm told. I have been reluctant to change out my Yamaha RX3000 because I truly favor having a powered set of Front Effects speakers in my sound wall... it allows me to tuck the KLF-30 Mains up to the 65" Mitsu RPTV without narrowing the biggest possible sound stage for the room size. I also like being able to enhance old style stereo or ProLogic programming with Yamaha's choice of enhancements. Since all the 5.1 material becomes 6.1 material, I find that the enhancements help fill in the shortfall of older technology. I haven't heard the new Yammy, but I am eager to. I shall probably upgrade my receiver once I get a chance to see what manufacturers will be offering this year. There are a lot of folks, like Boa, that have spent a lot of time and money in swapping out receivers... and others that have great insights into the separates issue. I trust they will find the time to comment on this issue... especially about what new stuff is in the offing. Used receivers are hard to recover money on, study well HornEd ------------------ "arrhythmias Klipsch Legends Cavort Discretely Six Ways!" FOREGROUND SOUND STAGE: KLF 30's: Left Main, Center Main, Right Main SB-2's: L & R Front Effects on 5' sand filled columns BACKGROUND SOUND STAGE: KLF 30's: Left Surround, Rear Effects, Right Surround LARGE MOUTH BASS: Twin SVS CS-Ultra subs, Samson Megawatt Amp KLIPSCH SPEAKER SUPPORT SYSTEMS: Mitsubishi RPHD1080i 65", Yamaha RX-V3000 Receiver Toshiba Pro Scan 6200, Toshiba Pro 6-head SVHS W808 and such... Tweakin' On! Music Respite System: vintage Cornwall with SVS16-46CS+ Klipsched Class "A" Motorhome: On the road testing... I posted the results of T-man's challenge on the Home Theater section (Hey HornEd, need Phantom feedback... ) and would appreciate your comments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEAR Posted February 3, 2002 Share Posted February 3, 2002 halfadeck, If you want to have the front effects then the Yamaha is a very good choice.Plus it a very well built reciever,sounds great and is loaded with features. In my view the Denon 4802 would be a better choice,the amplifier in this unit is superior to the Yamaha's.Its also loaded to the grills with features and has an army of inputs and outs. What made me take Denon over Yamaha is its built quality and power amp section(even if I dont use little weakling reciever amps LOL). The 3802 has all the features of the 4802 minus the better amp and less inputs.Its also a great choice if you want to save some green.Later you can always add a multichannel poweramp. TheEAR(s) Now theears Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobCurran Posted February 3, 2002 Share Posted February 3, 2002 Go for yammie - better build, quality, and sound. A lot of Denon fans in here but at least they have good taste in speakers. The specs on the RX-V3200 look pretty impressive. I see that Yamaha has gone for more wats per channel and dropping the front effect channel. I think its a good idea. ------------------ A/V AMP: Yamaha DSP-A1 TV: 29" Sony Trinitron DVD: Toshiba SD9200 CDP: Denon DCM-370 MAIN: Klipsch Heresey II CTR: Klipsch KSF-C5 REAR: Infinity SM-65 (crap) SUB: Infinity BU-1 (crap) This message has been edited by Rob Curran on 02-03-2002 at 03:55 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEAR Posted February 3, 2002 Share Posted February 3, 2002 The Yamaha is what? Better built! MUA HA HA HA Sure SUREEE Stop you should be a stand up comedian Rob dont try to rob the Denon quality built. TheEAR(s) Now theears Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobCurran Posted February 3, 2002 Share Posted February 3, 2002 Maybe its the color of the Denons. That smokey sort of bronze metal thing goin' on there. They remind me of a old JVC receiver I had years back... My Yammie sounds better than Denons costing hundreds more. ------------------ A/V AMP: Yamaha DSP-A1 TV: 29" Sony Trinitron DVD: Toshiba SD9200 CDP: Denon DCM-370 MAIN: Klipsch Heresey II CTR: Klipsch KSF-C5 REAR: Infinity SM-65 (crap) SUB: Infinity BU-1 (crap) This message has been edited by Rob Curran on 02-03-2002 at 04:32 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dearlv Posted February 3, 2002 Share Posted February 3, 2002 Yamaha or Denon? guess what? you can't really make a "wrong" choice. they are both very good. Get whichever one you want and don't torture yourself. upgrading your receiver every year is a waste of time and money. Pro Logic II? who cares... I have a Yamaha RXV1 btw. Klf20 front/rear, KlfC7.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boa12 Posted February 3, 2002 Share Posted February 3, 2002 i'm a big fan of the 4802. just about got it but decided to go the seperates route which as HE said does involve some added $. & yea it also involved some time getting there. i think these days w/ some of these receivers u really have to have a pretty high personal marginal value for the added cost. iow, a lot of the receivers now are just as good, at least in the pre/pro section. TTK mentioned the B&K 307 (or 305, which is same but 5 instead of 7 channels), & hadn't seen it mentioned much here. which is kind of odd cause I think my B&K stuff has that warmer sound that goes well w/ klipsch just as the denon & marantz have been so touted here. i haven't heard one of their receivers, but i've seen mentioned quite a few times that the 307 or 305 basically have the same tuner/pre/pro section of the reference 30 that I have. might be worth a listen though I think the 307 is well more pricey than the 4802 (again that personal marginal value thing). but a few things i'm willing to pay more for the b&k, besides the great sound, are the excellent upgradability, real flexible bass management (& the upgradability of that) & a 5 year warranty. ------------------ My Home Systems Page Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Cornell Posted February 3, 2002 Share Posted February 3, 2002 Hello ED Im back, i paid for web TV, so here i am! I have the outaw 1050, Harman Kardon AVR 120, and a pioneer SX 950, all hookrd up in conjunction, and am happy with all 3! the harman and pioneer are bright, and the outlaw is as smooth as cream pie! Any questions ill be glad to answer. outlaw 1050 Cornwall 1s front Academy center RS-3s rear RC-3 rear center rockford fosgate sub dual 10 inch pyramid amp to power sub K-33-E in a homemade box, in conjunction with the fosgates Apex DVD for now Harman Kardon AVR 120 Cornwall 1s Harman Kardon FL 8380 CD player SS.5s rear, Pioneer SX 950 Harman Kardon 7325 CD player Cornwall 1s A Cornwall 1s B 2 channel All systems on the same 2 sets of corwalls! I bought the SS.5s, their to small so i just threw them on the Harman, for kicks! I have 12 toggle switches to run all 3 systems! Nothing burned up yet LOL, i just have to be carefull not to have 2 systems on, and turn the toggles off for +- for each set thats on the systems not being used! This works out pretty well, now i dont have to keep moving recievers around to listen to them. Regards Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diggs Posted February 3, 2002 Share Posted February 3, 2002 I second the Outlaw. ------------------ Denon AVR-2800 KG-4 mains (too bad the rest of my speakers aren't this good) Polk C-175 center (it's ok) Infinity RS-10 Surrounds (suck) Audiosource SW-15 subwoofer (excellent sub for it's price) Pioneer DV333 DVD Sony 5 disc CD player All in a 12x12 apartment bedroom. "What?! I can't hear you!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfadeck Posted February 4, 2002 Author Share Posted February 4, 2002 Thanks all for your replies.I'm gonna see what the best deal I can get between the dennon3802 and 4802,and the yammy 3200 and 3000.I might just take a peak at the marantzsr8200. If anyone need some prices on these recievers let me know I've been searching the web like a crazed person and got them down to the lowest I can find(My headaches finally easing up now that am done doing all the research). tommorrow I'll do the haggling with the dealers on the phone hehe.Btw order most of my speaks got klf-20s, c-7, Probably gonna go with rs3II's for the surrounds for now. Gonna order either the earthquake super nova mkIV or maybe svs line(can get the earthquake for 800 demo model though).Thanks again for all your help I have learned a hell of alot from this forum(I've read almost evry post hehe).CYA on the boards :-) ------------------ turn it up hmmph i said turn it up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLL Posted February 4, 2002 Share Posted February 4, 2002 I work at sears and i compared a yamaha htr 5460 i believe which is 500 bucks to a denon 1602 which i think is 400 or cheaper. I hooked them up to the same speakers a 300 dollar pair of yamaha speakers and the same cd player some sony for 500 bucks connected to analoge audio jacks and the better sound hands down went with the denon. The denon was more clear, separated and seemed to have more power for the speakers. The tuner was much better than the yamaha also. THe denon sound was more up front warmer and refined compared to the yamaha watching listening to dvd's and cd's. The yamaha sound was more laid back bright and drier and not as clear or clean. I have a yamaha rxv800 and it is the same kind of sonic sound as this yamaha I tested. I now know that the yamaha is the weak link in my system and i do want to try out a denon 3802 on my speakers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundog Posted February 4, 2002 Share Posted February 4, 2002 Save yourself all the headaches of price wrangling. Take the above suggestions - get the Outlaw 1050 for $499. and you'll have an 6.1 A/V receiver that will sound better than any of the above receivers and most receivers costing $1000 and more. Read the reviews. ------------------ Soundog's HT Systems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEAR Posted February 4, 2002 Share Posted February 4, 2002 You work at Sears! I work at Wal-Mart ...what a small world it is. NOT Rob, Do you work for Cambridge Noise Works? "My Yammie sounds better than Denons costing hundreds more. " ...sounds better than X costing hundreds more Sure suuuuure The 4802 takes on your reciever any day(and the Denoon does not have the pathetic impedance selector... ) Ha the amp is so weak they put load switch(4 or 8 Ohms!)HA What is next ? TheEAR(s) Now theears Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kain Posted February 4, 2002 Share Posted February 4, 2002 Get the Denon AVR-4802! ------------------ Home Theater: Display: Sony VPL-VW11HT 16:9 LCD Projector Receiver: Denon AVC-A11SR (European version of Denon AVR-4802) DVD Player: Sony DVP-NS900 (European version) Center: Klipsch RC-7 Mains: Klipsch RF-7s Surrounds: Klipsch RS-7s Subwoofer: SVS CS-Ultra w/Samson S1000 amplifier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QUiKSR20 Posted February 4, 2002 Share Posted February 4, 2002 I currently have a SONY STR-DE975 for the money and features its awesome. Ive had this for about a year now and plan on upgrading to either a Denon 1802, HK AVR320, or a Outlaw 1050.. I have heard tons of great things on the Outlaw and so far it seams reciever wise Denon is the favorite of Klipsch fans but also how do the HK recievers do with Klipsch's i like the AVR310,510 and newer 320. So far im leaning towards the outlaw the most for price and quality.. any opinions or facts to help me in my choice would be greatly apreciated. ------------------ Thanks, Daryl Gregg MY Home Theatre Page Sony STR-DE975 HT Reciever Sony DVP-NS400D DVD SB-3 Mains SC-1 Center Quintet Rears KSW-12 Sub AR Proseries Interconects Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Cornell Posted February 4, 2002 Share Posted February 4, 2002 The Harman Kardon i have is a bit bright, i have the bass up a notch, the outlaw so far is the most even sound for the money! The old pioneer SX 950 is a little bright, but its like a bomb in power and sound, plus i can run 4 cornwalls with ease! I have all 3 in conjunction,, and listen to them one at a time, instead of constanty hooking each one up! Regards Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Pidass Posted February 4, 2002 Share Posted February 4, 2002 HalfD: You should consider what your priority in listening will be. Do you value 2 channel audio as well as HT? Will you use the receiver for both? What main speakers are you driving? If they're Klipsch, there's a tendancy for brightness and even harshness especially in 2 channel mode. The Marantz is one beautiful match to tame that harshness. It's great for HT and shines for 2 channel audio (and what a great remote). Give Marantz, and others, a listen in your environment B4 you make your decision. Regards, Stu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Pidass Posted February 4, 2002 Share Posted February 4, 2002 Oops. sorry wrong thread. ------------------ '81 Cornwall 1 mains B2 Crossover '73 Heresy Centre '78 Heresy Surrounds Paradigm PW220 Sub Subwoofer (18 hz) Marantz SR8000 AV Receiver Hitachi 53" RPTV 53SBX59B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobCurran Posted February 4, 2002 Share Posted February 4, 2002 Damn! Nice curve ball Ears, do you play little league baseball Does having a load switch indicate a weak amp (Hummmm)? You got me on that one! Let me post the question in a few chatrooms and due some reading. As Arnie would said, "I'll be back." This message has been edited by Rob Curran on 02-04-2002 at 03:45 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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