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Here's a schematic for the trap filter I was going to use on my Belle clones....before I traded them off. This may, or may not, work on the La Scala, as it was designed for the AB-3 crossovers that never made it into the Belle. Not much money in parts to try, though.

Dang....Long Beach? Too far of a drive for us guys in Arkansas! Great price! GLWS!

It's an acquired taste to the LS and Belles and, apparently, the right signal chain combo. Kind-of picky. I've owned La Scalas and Klipschorns over the years and built a beautiful set of Belle inspired clones a few years back. I had a pair of the Epic CF-3's prior but sold them once I was done with the Belle build, regrettably. I just never warmed up to their sound and worked out a deal where I now have CF-3 version 1's and I'm completely satisfied. The Belle clones just didn't sound good upstairs in my music room and really had their limitations at our other house. I'd also had a pair of '78 Cornwalls and KLF-30's at the same time as the first pair of CF-3's and the first two were sold off. It's all personal preference, what works in any given room, and the signal chain as a whole that let's you decide what sounds best to you. At least in my humble opinion.

No doubt. That was a great deal.

I can agree with that. The point of diminishing returns with an input signal that is low-res definitely makes for not having to go with quite so revealing of a system. I'm sort of in that boat as I have tinnitus and upper HF hearing loss which saves me tons of money on higher end equipment that I can't hear the difference in. lol

I'm not sure how crazy I would go on a system streaming band music from YouTube. Not sure that's much better than Spotify at 320kbps but I would bet more like 128 to 192kbps. I could be wrong. At that rate, I'd just use an 1/8" jack out of the computer to an amp and call it good. That's pretty poor audio quality. Like 1990's mp3 stuff.

Or go to a Raspberry Pi4B with Moode or Volumio, feed that to a DAC via USB, use the mconnect app for a phone to control the Pi4B accessing Qobuz, Spotify, JRiver, etc., and forget the PC doing it. Sooooo much handier. There's an mconnect HD app for iPad's that can use iOS 12 and up or for Android OS 5.1 and up. Those two apps cost $599 each. I have mconnect for my phone and mconnect HD for my older Samsung Tab 4 8" tablet; the perfect thing to repurpose old tablets with. What are you doing for "computer music"? Streaming something like Spotify, Tidal, Deezer, Qobuz, etc? If Amazon Music HD, get rid of that trash. lol. I was using an i5 Lenovo Tiny PC (and a Dell i5 SFF before) and just finished this up last night. I now wonder what took me so long. I also use a Topping D10S USB DAC and am thoroughly happy with it. Was well worth the sub $100 price tag. Those little amps are really cool but I just don't care to give up 460 wpc of my modified Carver M-1.0t any time soon. I did order a little Fosi Audio BT amplifier that has the TPA3116 chip, I believe, that will run a pair of ads L300C's in the "workout room" we set up for my son. But that's about all I will have for a tiny amp. They are cool, though.

I guess I missed something again...

I sold these speakers back in the late 80's when they were new along with the JBL L Series of the era (L20t, L60t, L80t, L100t, & 250ti). We sold a surprising amount of the 4.2, 6.2 and 10.2 speakers and I really thought those 10.2's did a really good job for what they are. Oddly enough, a friend of mine that bought a pair from me back in 1988 still has them and has only had to have them re-foamed. They still love them. But that's why there are speakers for everyone out there. GLWS. They are definitely in great shape.

Pretty impressive. What gets me though is their oddball power ratings. What is this amp rated for from 20 to 20k at reasonable distortion at 8 and 4 ohm? Not that I'm ready to give up my 460wpc Carver M-1.0t just yet. lol

I was looking at that Parasound P6, too, for awhile as it does do many things and maybe more that I need. I sold my Onkyo Reference gear and am back to using my tried and true, fully rebuilt Carver C-1 preamp, with added volume and mute controls along with my modified Carver M-1.0t amp. The combo sounds great on the CF-3's and I just got a Topping D10S USB DAC which made a huge difference in sound....along with dropping Amazon Music HD and going with Qobuz. Lol. I just decided I didn't need all the inputs since I mainly stream anymore. We occasionally watch a movie using the Firestick tied to the TV and I have optical out going to a basic Fiio DAC for that which works good....same goes for my PS3 and another Fiio DAC. Not that you cared to read all of that.

To me, this reads like the speakers sounded fine before in the "location" they were in and, now that they are in a new "location", with the same gear, they have lost their bass response. Right? Sounds to me like a "location" issue and not some of this other crazy recommended stuff. Do you own another pair of speakers to try out that are known to have bass in their "location"? Can you take the speakers and an amp to any other room besides the basement and just hook a phone up and see how it sounds? Did you try putting the speakers on a different wall in the room or more into the corners? I went from mine being on the long wall and having more bass to going to the short wall and having less bass. Just took a little finagling to get them to sound right and moving chair and speakers around some. Location, location, location.

It's pretty hard to beat a pair of CF-3's as they sit, for sure. I have no desire to change out the K-63 drivers to anything else as I don't hear any oddball anomalies that apparently some do. Plus, I have a pair of replacement K-63's and a K-1030 woofer (which I believe is for the version 3's) My crossovers are good as they sit and had minor work and testing done to them so they are golden.

Dust cap fixed and back in bi'ness. Now it's just other stuff on the wall rattling....

Great speakers!

@Maxwell_E So I guess from the expired postings, they are both sold? If so, might edit that in the header line.

Just to update. The crossovers are back in place and sound outstanding now. The electrolytics in the woofer circuit were replaced along with the faulty resistor. The remaining capacitors stayed in place as they all tested fine. I know they are good to go now. I did, however, have a rattling dust cap and thankfully that's all it was. I removed it last night and cleaned up the old glue this morning with the "new" MEK. which works like a champ on removing contact cements and various glues without damaging cones. At lunch, I'll re-glue it back in place with some M-3035 black rubber cement and it will be good for another 27+ years.

There are no CF-4's in Garage Sale for Jinx listed. They only have the one post and that was from yesterday.

You might post some pictures and give location. That's always big deciding factors on value....location and condition. The photos would have to be sized down as there is a 2MB limit on here. Where are you located?

I would imagine this is a good deal on FB Marketplace. I'd personally buy them for my garage if I were closer. I could easily redo those cabinets. No affiliation. Premier Plus Pawn 813 W Moore Ave Ste A Terrell Texas 75160 https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/216874590577001/

So you bought a Node or a C700? That's what I'm most curious about is with the Node and its "control" via the app with Amazon Music HD since AMHD's desktop app/experience for Windows 10 is awful.

They are definitely cool amps/devices and have many good things built in to them. I guess I'm one where the negatives for me would be (a), not enough power at 80x2 for how I like to occasionally play the CF-3's and, (b), do I want something where everything is in one box versus being separated. I've seriously thought about buying the C658 preamp because of the Dirac and BluOS being built in. Not to mention, I've known the Lenbrook Nat'l Sales Manager for 20 years now as I was once a rep for NAD/PSB in my previous life as a Manufacturers Rep amongst other lines. That is a neat little piece, though. I wish the C658 screen was like that versus its plain screen. I also worry about mistakenly turning the volume WFO on the preamp using the app, like I've read happen.

I hate to take this off topic but just a quick question. Which Hypex amps are you working with again? You can DM versus it being here.

I'm sure ours will, too. Not to mention the value of our house apparently went up $50k over the last year and I'm doe darn sure they won't decrease anything.

Duke's Mayonnaise is my go to. I have not ever been a fan of Miracle Whip nor would I want to use it as a "dressing". lol