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Wow, Fight Club is one of my favorite movies and this blew my mind. It makes sense that the House is in his head and all the papers stacked that they read are his thoughts and fears. I heard also that The Shining is similar in that it has a bunch of references about the Federal Reserve etc but I am not as familiar with that movie.

Yay! I have someone in my corner. I agree as well. I can see how Klipsch is trying to put all their new tech into the concept model to show it off but in reality the speakers are confused. Heritage guys that will be interested in this probably also spend hours picking out amps and wires etc to put their system together and here you are locked into a wireless model. The people who would be into wireless speakers probably wont appreciate the PWK inspired components and look anyway. Its kind of like BMW coming out with a throwback E30 M3 concept car but then saying its a hybrid with continuous variable transmission. (Although BMW probably WOULD do that nowadays...) As for the wireless tech, what is the potential for interference etc?

I have this setup with my KG 5.5's and it works well. There are some other posts here about finding a center for the 5.5 and from what i have heard the KV-3 is one of the better options if you want to go that route. The difficulty with the KG 5.5 is they are so efficient that its hard for the center's from that line to keep up but the newer more efficient lines dont timber match. I dont think anyone has mentioned a KV-4 for a center. It looks like a good option but they are hard to find. The only one on Ebay is listed for $425 which is more than a set of 5.5's. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Klipsch-KV-4-Center-Channel-Speaker-Timber-Match-For-Klipsch-Epic-CF-Series-Rare-/141509124877?pt=Speakers_Subwoofers&hash=item20f299e30d

Out on the road today, I saw a DeadHead sticker on a Cadillac. A little voice in your head said, "Dont look back, never look back..." Unless your Klipsch.

Wow those look awesome. I would love to have that grill cloth for my black KG 5.5's.

Thanks for the help guys. I will keep the ti ones in for now. Is there a way I can test my old phenolic ones using a multimeter from autozone? Maybe I can switch around some things upstream in my system to warm it up a little. Do you think replacing the caps in the crossovers will help, maybe the bad diaphragms were hiding the other issues somewhat.

Note: This is not my ad, just one I found. This looks like a good deal on some Heresy's in Utah if anyone is looking for a pair: http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=218&ad=32969071&cat=&lpid=&search=klipsch&ad_cid=9

Hey guys so lately I realized the phenolic diaphragms in my KG 5.5's were getting worn out. I actually thought that my KG's had little or no bass because the tweeters would 'scream' at me before I had the chance to put enough wattage into them to push the 10'' woofers. That being said, I finally got the Crites titanium diaphragms and now the speakers sound MUCH more controlled and I can now turn them up to get the awesome bass that the parallel woofers can throw out. However, after some listening I noticed that while the titanium had excellent imaging and sounded more airy, the music didnt have that warm 'life' that the phenolic tweeters produced. The speakers now sound like a cold, scientific reproduction of the music. Has anyone else noticed this with the titanium tweeters? From what I have read its pretty much universally loved as an upgrade. I simply directly replaced the diaphragms, is there anything else I can do to bring more life into the speaker or should I just get new phenolic tweeters from Klipsch?

Sublime Cover of Grateful Dead's Scarlet Begonias: Dub Side of the Moon: http://youtu.be/wFVdTw4PwE0

Great discussion. Here is a TED talk from Tony Andrews (Owner of Funkion One Speakers) that talks about loudness and compression and how it ruins the listening experience. It is interesting how he describes how compressed music elicits an adrenaline response while good music elicits a dopamine response. I believe this is one of the reasons you can listen to a good record for hours but bad digital you want to turn off after 20 min: Also, why Deadmau5 hates Dubstep: Putting these together, it appears that modern EDM music such as Dubstep is less about actual musical representation but rather a cacophony of noise meant to elicit an adrenaline response for the crowd. You are not enjoying the sound in itself but rather just the adrenaline rush from the noise.

There are a bunch of speaker listings on Craigslist that are titled, "Divorce Sale" that suggest otherwise...

Yes 5.1 I agree the system sound awesome with the Marantz, very clean and strong. I notices things I never heard before with this amp. Do most of you guys listen to movies direct without effects? I apologize in advance I have very limited knowledge about this kinda stuff I have had Sony and Yamaha so far and both have had effects built in I thought all receivers came with their own created effects fields. I am newbie that is quickly learning. You will want to turn all the effects off for the best movie experience. DVD's that are encoded with Dolby Digital already have discreet channels for all 5.1 speakers and any sort of effects is going to muddy that instead of listening to what the sound engineers designed. If your ears are used to the effects, an amp without it will sound flat at first but once you get used to it you wont be able to stand any sort of effects etc. Keep in mind too that your buddy probably has a different room size etc so you will need to recalibrate the speaker distances etc to get the best sound. I forgot to do that at first when I bought my used Denon receiver and it sounded terrible until I set the proper distances and the sound all just meshed together into a realistic experience.

Is that you, tis indeed... Firestone makes some awesome beer. Their Wookey Jack is on my top 5 favorite brews.

Thats awesome. My dad took me to the Grateful Dead when I was 7 at the Seattle Center Memorial Stadium in 1994. Holy crap, they played for your daughter the exact show after the one I saw. http://www.dead.net/show/june-14-1994

I have heard different sources suggest this as well and when I did my sub crawl test my sub landed in the middle of the room along a side wall. It has to do with putting the sub in the null of the room so it hits a nerve so to speak.

That makes sense. I think i will stick with what I have until the proper center comes up on CL or Ebay. Its like the old saying: The man who buys the proper equipment weeps once when he pays for it. The man who buys cheap equipment weeps twice, once when he realizes its no good, and again when he has to then buy the proper equipment...

Hey guys I am currently running my KG 5.5's as a phantom center which I am reasonably happy with. That being said, our local ads posting site has a SC-1 for the giveaway price of $40 which is very enticing. Will the SC-1 blend reasonably well with the KG 5.5's? I know the kg 2.2 V or the KV-3 are said to be more ideal but the SC-1 has a Tractrix horn similar to the KG's and goes slightly deeper despite having smaller Woofers. The SC-1 has a aluminum dome tweeter while the KV-3 has polymer like the KGs, will that cause a timber mismatch?

That would be hilarious if you sat down at an orchestra and pulled out an SPL meter to measure the reference level for your home speakers, thats dedication right there. Great thread btw.

Bought a Denon Avr-3801 for $35 because some guy has a rich neighbor that gave it to him and he had it sitting in his garage. Then I lost the remote which is listed for $70 to $99 on Ebay...

Yeah but his professional paint job has... Texture.

I have to disagree with you on the EDM. If you are ever in Denver, CO check out Beta Nightclub. It features 4 Funktion One speakers that are amazing to listen to: I watched the Funktion-One video and thought about what they were saying--and even more on how they said it, i.e., it isn't a precise discussion (but it's accurate). The discussion suffices for the audience watching the video who largely aren't familiar with why one type of loudspeaker sounds better than another one, or at least without introducing a lot of "marketing hype" and other inaccuracies into the conversation. Tony Andrew's and John Newsham's focus on horn-loaded loudspeakers resonates with my experience, and is congruent with others understanding the "why" of horn-loaded loudspeakers (most often I think of PWK as the continuing proponent of horn-loading). This is especially so when thinking about the Tony Andrew's comment about horn-loaded bass and interestingly about cone-driver midrange horns. Clearly the focus of that company is on live music support, especially music that is played in larger venues at high SPLs. Moving the phase plug of the midrange horn/driver out into a lower SPL region and using larger diaphragm radiating areas like the Funktion-One loudspeakers use, lowers the nonlinear effects of high SPL found in the throats of live music loudspeaker horns. This lowers harmonic distortion and I'm not sure about modulation distortion, but I'd guess that Funktion-One also uses highly linear cone drivers on their midrange horns too, to lower AM distortion effects at high SPLs. It's also interesting to me that this company resides in the U.K. - a place where horn-loaded loudspeakers literally aren't accepted by the local "audiophile" population, rather this group represents a rather closed-thinking group that accept only the concept of direct-radiating cone loudspeakers: witness the UK audiophile's collective reverence towards the BBC series of loudspeaker studio monitors and their descendents to the exclusion of horn-loaded loudspeakers. Funktion-One's cone-driven midrange horn with visible phase plug is clearly meant for filling professional venues with lots of sound power, and not really meant for home installs where the average SPLs are typically 10-30 dB lower--just due to smaller room sizes. This is a paradox that is discussed in Toole's book that describes how listeners in smaller spaces prefer lower SPLs than in larger venues. This is also the first case of horn-loaded loudspeakers that I've seen where a horn-loaded loudspeaker design is specifically meant for very high average SPL performance in larger venues for those genres that demand high SPL, the message being that the hardware also evolves--to suit the venue and genre. Chris Thanks for the reply, once again I am humbled by the vast experience of this forum. I have listened to the flagship series from Funktion-One at beta nightclub in Denver. The main dance floor has 4 units in each corner and its by far the best sound system I have ever heard. Many top name DJ's have also commented it is their favorite venue to play at. After going to the club back in the day I finally looked more into it and watched some other Tony Andrews clips and thats part of the reason I got into Klipsch products. Supposedly when they were first calibrating the system in Denver they cranked it up too far and set off all the car alarms down the block. Personally, I think they need to put in Dolby Atmos into the club environment with a modulator so the DJ can "place" layers of music in the 3 dimensional space of the dance floor in real time. Such as rain effects and 3d panning etc. This will bring back some of the live performance aspects of DJing which has largely been lost due to modern mixing software.

Hi if you dont mind me asking, where did you get the speaker fabric for those Heresies? Those look awesome.

There are better ones, but I have used these in horn loaded (THT) enclosures. I have also used the higher output "HO" version of this Dayton in both pro horn loaded (T30) and sealed (custom auto sub) enclosures. Though they are low cost, the construction and performance is great. They are high value in my opinion. It all depends on the budget Scrappy. I'm guessing you didn't read his whole post. That little dayton sub-1200 is very much a cheapy sub. Now dayton HO drivers those are good value for sure. Just as good as my SI.BUT 100$ powered dayton not so much Thanks alot for the advice. It sounds like the two Daytons are in different classes and its worth it to get the 15''. I think im going to get the driver and amp soon then I can figure out if I want a sealed or horned enclosure. If I went horned I will probably go with the f20 as it requires less woodworking skills.

Hey guys I am in the market for a new subwoofer to go with my KG 5.5's. The room is fairly small, approx 12' by 18' and I currently have an Infinity 8'' sub that doesnt hope to keep up or match the KG's so I ended up shutting it off for music and only use it for LFE rumble for movies. Anyway, I have a limited budget and was thinking going big with the DIY route or just go with a decent used sub. Here are my options: Used ($70-80): New Dayton SUB-1200 12" subwoofer http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=218&ad=32612424&cat=&lpid=&search=dayton%20subwoofer&ad_cid=1 DIY (Approx $270): Plate amp Yung 500w Plate Amplifier $100 Shipped https://community.klipsch.com/index.php?/topic/150198-fs-yung-500w-plate-amplifier-100-shipped/ Driver Dayton RSS390HF-4 15" SUB http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=218&ad=32585969&cat=&lpid=&search=dayton%20subwoofer&ad_cid=2 Box http://www.diysoundgroup.com/sealed-subwoofer-flatpacks/3-sub-flat-pack.html I have heard very good things about the 12'' Dayton sub but the DIY will be a monster that wont need to be upgraded for quite some time. The question is, will the 12'' be enough bass for the foreseeable future or is it really worth getting the more expensive 15'' considering the small room? The main goal of the sub will be music.

I have to disagree with you on the EDM music. If you are ever in Denver, CO check out Beta Nightclub. It features 4 FunktionOne speakers that are amazing to listen to: