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Hello All, I just wanted to share my experience on dealing with cabinet separation on a pair of Heresy IIs that I had purchased. After purchasing the speakers and getting them home, I had realized that one of the speakers had seam separation on the top right and lower left sections of the cabinet which I believe was caused by being droped during shipping. Since this was resulting in an unsealed cabinet and the possible loss of some of the low end of the speaker, I decided to see what I could do to correct this and possibly make them more sturdy in the process. My first step was to remove the woofer of the speaker and see how these things were built. As you can see by the photo below, these speakers are held together by a small rectangular wooden brace and "squirted" with a fair amount of wood glue to keep the corners together. This piece is what had become slightly detached from the cabinet wall and my focus turned to how best to approach this. After careful consideration, I elected to replace a few of the wood braces with new pieces and use a combination of careful use of screws and strong wood glue to support the cabinet. My hope is that the addition of the screws would be better able to support the cabinet and better hold the integrity of the seal together over time. This was done to the other speaker in order to match any slight variation on acoustics that this could have caused on the one, although I could not tell A/B after doing just the one.

@LiqiudcarneyWait, were you not the one that told me that the Monolith 12s were good to go? I ordered one after you had recommended them. What exactly do you not like about them?

@Fenderplayer Yes, $1200 is on the high side. $600-$800 seem to be the current selling rate depending on condition, possibly slightly higher if they are in great condition.

These exact same thoughts occurred to me last night. I have had equipment and internal settings in my systems kill the fun out of what otherwise are great speakers. I had an onkyo reciever for awhile that was the most lifeless and dull piece of equipment that absolutely took the air out of both a nice set of kef and klipsch speakers. I have had great onkyos before and I thought nothing of it until swapping it out and the sound opened up tremendously. You might see if there is a setting on there that you enjoy that isnt so neutered with music and then switch back for av. Personally, after that, I would echo trying different equipment before taking the speakers back(a pain, I know). Aside, I have purchased speakers before which I had different expectations from what the speakers actually provided me. Not saying that the 8000s are flat as I havent had experience with them, but demoing is a must for me now so I dont go through buyers remorse(as bad, haha!) again.

The only thing I can answer to is the first question. Yes, 125 wpc will be more than adequate. Having extra watts will not hurt you but at that output level coupled with their high sensitivity you will be more than ok. What you need to decide at this point is what you are looking for in a speaker. The rf7s will be a tad more refined and cleaner sounding where as the fortes will have a bit more presence in the mid to upper frequencies. The forte iiis may have been tamed a bit from the 2s I have heard, but i would expect that the overall feeling they give off at volume will still be there. Personally I have decided that I am more in the heritage and presence at volume camp but it all comes down to personal preference. Good luck!

Personally having owned both brands, I would side with the Denon models. Sound after calibration was much better and more articulate with the Denon as opposed to the Onkyo and doing minor adjustments on both low and high end extensions was better. If it were me, I would look into getting a X400 model from denon(last years model) I have personally found those to be a great value at the prices they are currently selling at. Your price would put you at a 2400h for new, also you should note open box 'like new' on amazon is 100 off and might be worth taking a shot at. Good luck.

Anyone have the Monolith 12? I was looking for a sub to pair with some LaScalas and was wondering how well they pair up. Anyone that could help I would very much appreciate it.

Not affiliated, but I was the one who told him to list these here. Here is the original listing from facebook marketplace. It appears he has a pair of forte's he is replacing them with. https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/356755441581138/

Kudos to Tad for a fantastic transaction. It was a pain trying to figure out out how to get these shipped (we were getting quotes as high as $250 without the packaging included, wow). Well we were finally able to find a reasonable quote and Tad packaged them bulletproof. They arrived last night and I finally got them set up- and all the packing peanuts cleaned up. They sound and look fantastic. Thanks Tad! Also, thank you to @Budman, who graciously offered to pick them up and hold them for me assuming I was going to have to make the drive. Pardon the mess of the room, its still a work in progress

Hi Dave, I am interested in the Cornet, perhaps I could take a look at it later this week. Thanks, Jack

@Budman That would help out tremendously. Thank you so much for offering to do this. Are you sure it's not a problem? It seems like he wants them off his hands pretty quick and it might take me a few weeks to be able to make the drive. Let me check on one other thing and I will touch base with you in a day or so. Thanks, Jack

Hello All, I hate to ask this but is anyone on here planning on passing through Cincinnati OH and then preceding on to Missouri in the next month or so? I had recently agreed to purchase a pair of Heresy IIs from another forum member thinking I would be paying 120 or so dollars in shipping fees. Unfortunately, I was way off on this figure and was quoted the hefty sum of $255, which may derail my hopes of owning these speakers. I may have to just bite the bullet and take a long drive, but if in the slim chance anyone is planning covering that route perhaps we could work something out to help mule them. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Jack

I would personally scoop these up if they weren't so far away. They look great. I am sure they will go soon.

When I picked up my pair of first pair of Klipsch Heritage, a pair of 90s LaScalas off craigslist, it was bundled with an Adcom 555ii amp and Adcom GTP 400. Listening with that 400 preamp almost turned me off the sale, it isnt bad per se, but certain music was unbearable in the fatiguing high end and seemed slightly veiled so I had to mess with the tone controls to tame it. No worries, I thought as I bought the speakers, I have a decent Onkyo reciever that is collecting dust I can use for the time being. This was a bad choice. Haha, this is funny to me now, but you know that feeling you get when buyers remorse sets in. All because the soothing noise you expect to hear is crystal clear high end being shoved in your ears forceably and you are afraid to admit this to your wife. Thankfully its all sorted out now, I am actually still using the 555ii paired with a few other pre amps and it sounds worlds better.

Let me clarify to the previous comment. I will definitely take them assuming shipping isn't something heinous(which it shouldn't be). I have been looking for some Heresy's for quite some time but have always gotten beaten to the punch. I commented quick because these look fantastic and will likely go quick. Ill DM you my details in a few minutes.

I would like them. Could you send me a quote to ship them to STL?

I wanted to follow up on this thread and say that Dave has been fantastic to deal with. Currently, he is allowing me to demo the MingDa preamp with my home lascala setup against a Schiit Freya. This weekend should be quite enjoyable to say the least. Thanks Dave.

Quick question. What exactly is on the wall behind you. Is it a closed room or does it look the same as the wall we can see?

Wow, wow, wow. I am tempted to take the 6 hour drive from St. Louis and pick these up myself(and I really might aasuming I can pep talk myself enough). To follow up about the year of manufacture, those are indeed '90 or '91 DOB. I have a pair of LaScalas from that same era and they have that same wonky 09001(...) long serial that nobody can decipher. Apparently Klipsch had just switched to computers then and the serials lost all rhyme and reason to them for awhile.

It seems that the Heritage Codes page does not apply to this set. The person these were purchased from said they were bought sometime in the early 90's, but for the life me I cannot make any sense of any of the numbers shown. Is there anyone I can reach out to or any additional information I can provide to get this answered? Thanks to all on the input and help.

Oh yes. I have them and they are superb. I talked to the guy yesterday and he told me one of the speakers was broken but he had a guy coming by to fix it and he would let me know after that when to come by. I had been chomping at the bit so I asked if I could come and look at them anyway. He said that was fine. One of the wires on the crossovers was unscrewed in the broken speaker. He told me that the first guy came to look at them set them up and was fiddling around with that one and then tried to lowball him. That was very suspicious, indeed. Whatever the case I demoed them keeping an open mind. I approached one of the speakers thinking it had a small tick to it but realized that it was a guy in the recording keeping time with his foot that I had not heard before. After that, I was sold and got them into a truck as quickly and calmly as I could. They are early 90s and have AL3 crossovers. Sound is great in the room I have them intemporarily. I currently have the adcom amp powering them, but am only getting the volume a quarter of the way up as it supply's 200 watts(maybe I should use something lower wattage?) Ignore the record player on the speaker, as I was just testing for function.

After researching for some time I settled on a Topping D50. I think I paid around 190 for it after discounts on ebay. Personally, I am very pleased with the sound and its capabilities for what I paid for it. The sound is very clean, the unit feels solidly built, the chipset is fantastic, and the built-in filters seem to work above expectations. As a bonus, it does not require any special power to handle phone audio, which I like.

Not yet. I was starting to give up after sending him a text and calling earlier in the day. Finally, he responded saying he wasn't feeling the greatest and that he would call me tomorrow about them to figure something out Still no indication that this is a scam or anything on my end. I pray it's not. I will let you know.

No. The guy told me to come by and take a look on Sunday as he was out of town for work. Strange, he seemed very forthright with the questions I had on the system. Whatever the case, I will proceed cautiously and report back. Also, do you know the person who posts the "cash for your vintage klipshhorn and lascala" posts? I have been trying to find either set but I am afraid that guy heads everything off before I can get to it.