Coytee Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Looking to acquire new car for Mom. She liked an '09 Camry "LE" Dealer tells me (over phone) $22,594 MSRP -$1,000 for some mystical reason -1,500 for what I think is their rebate program +595 for paperwork fee (which I told him I had a problem with) + $1,133.70 for tax Total for car $20,028 Anyone know if that's good, bad or indifferent? My guess is since mom went in there alone, they're not sharpening their pencil too much. I went to Edmunds and THEY list the car as MSRP $21,650 or $994 above the MSRP as stated by the dealer. (and I wonder where their first $1,000 discount comes from?) Any thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 My guess is that the difference is a "destination charge" (which really means shipping why can't they just say that). MSRP is not a base price but what everything adds up to on their retail sticker. One of my biggest complaints about how lots of car companies do business. There used to be a few that shipped a car and priced it as is rather than have a price for the shell then tack on more for wheels, tires, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommyboy Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Actually, that sounds like a pretty good deal to me! It's hard or darn near impossible to get anything of any kind of quality these days for much cheaper than that. Sticker price on my Pontiac G6 (2009) was 25,995. I won't say how much I drove it home for! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommyboy Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 My fault, it's a 08; not 09......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill H. Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Probably doing whatever it takes to get a sale in these drastic times............ The figures from your phone call seem reasonable. Plus Toyotas are very dependable..................Good Luck. PS I agree, that they should knock off the 595 "Paperwork fee"...........if they want the sale......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksonbart Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 V6? or v4? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest " " Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 check autotrader.com, a lot of dealers list ther cars there. if you use 300 miles as the range of dealerships, you will get a pretty wide spread on prices. but typically, your part of the country has a low mark up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coytee Posted December 22, 2008 Author Share Posted December 22, 2008 Called dealer back (they're in Atlanta). He directed me to Carsdirect.com http://www.carsdirect.com/build/options?zipcode=30056&acode=USB90TOC021BT&restore=false I have got to wonder if this is a website funded by auto manufacturers or their cousins... in other words, an "independent" place of pricing that happens to be related to the fox guarding the hen house, if you know what I mean. Edmunds.com had a MSRP greater than his. He contends that Edmunds doesn't have all the facts/information at their fingertips like Carsdirect does. (which is why I'm automatically suspect at this site) Few things in life I hate more than dealing with cars and car folks. Mom doesn't want to talk about a used car. She just rolled her Honday and it had 40K miles on it.... so she can sit & talk about how a car with 40K miles is still in fantastic shape however, if she's buying it from someone else, it's trashed. sheesh.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coytee Posted December 22, 2008 Author Share Posted December 22, 2008 V6? or v4? Boxer format (opposing like VW's & Porsche's) [] 4 cylinder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksonbart Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 wow i had no idea Toyota made a boxer. I would go in to the dealership and say that you would buy for 19,340 firm/ hint that you might finance it (they win big on the rates) and if they don't agree, walk away. (you will get a call later) when they agree with the checkbook write it out for the full amount. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Does she roll cars often? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel Posted December 22, 2008 Moderators Share Posted December 22, 2008 Does she roll cars often? That's what I was wondering, hope she's OK. How much is the optional roll cage in the Camry ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budman Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 back in 03 my kid got 4 grand off sticker on a ford from 16 down to 12 grand and we never opened our mouth. looks like you are around 3600 off sticker if my math is right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommyboy Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 V6? or v4? LOL, what's a V4??? Not a car guy Jacksonbart? [*-)] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksonbart Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Sorry I meant inline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jheis Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Actually, there have been quite a few V4 engines.... Lancia built a narrow angle V4 for many years. English Ford & German Ford (also used by SAAB & Matra) built different version V4's. AJS, Aprillia, Ducati, Honda, Suzuki, and Yamaha all built or build V4 motorcycle engines. Johnson, Evinrude, and Yamaha built two stroke V4 outboard engines. James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhenry Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Not to be a jerk, but have you considered a car from a U.S. car company? Blah, blah, blah about where the car is made, I mean buying from a COMPANY that has it's headquarters here in the U.S.? This is not 1979 anymore and the American car companies make a damn fine product. The next job they cut could be yours. Food for thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunburnwilly Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Not to be a jerk, but have you considered a car from a U.S. car company? Blah, blah, blah about where the car is made, I mean buying from a COMPANY that has it's headquarters here in the U.S.? This is not 1979 anymore and the American car companies make a *** fine product. The next job they cut could be yours. Food for thought. An 09 Camry is as American as any car out there , other than the Toyota nameplate . American workers make them . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coytee Posted December 22, 2008 Author Share Posted December 22, 2008 Not to be a jerk, but have you considered a car from a U.S. car company? Blah, blah, blah about where the car is made, I mean buying from a COMPANY that has it's headquarters here in the U.S.? This is not 1979 anymore and the American car companies make a *** fine product. The next job they cut could be yours. Food for thought I agree with your sentiments. I also agree that US makers are making decent cars (though I still don't perceive their design as being on par, with some foreign cars ...key word perceive. ) I was planning on a Honda since they're built in Marysville Ohio (last I knew). Seems she likes this Camry with the supercalafragilistic V-4! (it would only be expialadocious if it had a boxer engine []) She'll probably settle for the base model of what ever she gets and get an inline 4 [] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkside Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 I got this belief from my dad, but I really don't see the point inbuying a car new. Case in point, I drive a 2004 Lincoln LS V8. Whenthat car was brand new, base price was around 40K. Not sure how muchthe options I've got on mine would have added up to, but still, a lotmore than 20 for a Camry. When we got the car, had 66 thousand miles,no problems, everything worked (still works a couple thousand mileslater), paint in great shape, basically new tires even and we only paidaround 12500 for it. Sure it won't get as good gas mileage as thelittle rice burner (I ONLY get 19-20 mpg city and about 25-26highwaywith the V8 and a 4000lbs car), but it's a lot more car,certianly much nicer, and drives beautifully. I love it. I'm not sayinganything bad about a Camry, I wouldn't know. The point is that you caneasily get a nice, slight older one, used for probably half that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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