HudsonValleyNoah Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 I did not think this was possable... Anyone know why this is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HudsonValleyNoah Posted February 18, 2009 Author Share Posted February 18, 2009 And Vertical ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonz44 Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 My verts have the same tag, vintage 1972. Just looked through the owner info packet that I got when I bought mine this summer from the second owner, it seems like they used Cornwall and Cornwall II interchangeably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HudsonValleyNoah Posted February 18, 2009 Author Share Posted February 18, 2009 Very strange. Does your 1972 have a Pie logo like this one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMcD Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 You can read here: http://www.klipsch.com/news-center/reviews-press/archived/details/klipsch-model-cornwall-ii-speaker-system.aspx My guess is that the first CW had the vertical slit port in the rear. Then came this CWII with vertical horns. The back to CW when the mid was moved horizontal. Then to CW II with plastic horns, and now CW III which has a Heresy midrange. But the above is just my guess. Wm McD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonz44 Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Not a clear one like that, but black and gold, otherwise the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HudsonValleyNoah Posted February 18, 2009 Author Share Posted February 18, 2009 I have a pair of 1969 H-700 Heresy cabs that also have the same clear logo... I wonder what year the clear pie started and what year it ended? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audible Nectar Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 This is the correct year for that Cornwall II - the "original" (aka "vertical") Cornwall II. Not to be confused with the 1980s/90s Cornwall II, of course. I have a pair from 1968, with removable cane grills and black pie slice logos....one of three Cornwall pairs in the theater. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HudsonValleyNoah Posted February 18, 2009 Author Share Posted February 18, 2009 At one point, these must have been very beautiful... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HudsonValleyNoah Posted February 18, 2009 Author Share Posted February 18, 2009 But one side was very abused. How can you repair missing Veneer like this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nu2toobs Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 But one side was very abused. How can you repair missing Veneer like this? Unfortunately, a re-veneer is your only option to get it right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groomlakearea51 Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 On the label, it's as Audible Nectar said. Used for verticals until about 1970 or so, then the labels said Cornwall. I believe the last year for the clear plastic pies was 1970. Then they used the copper ones, but in 75-76 also used bronze with the faint black bars with name, but no logo. The "15" IIR was the grill cloth, but they stopped in the late 60's putting that after the model number on Cornwalls and Heresys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garymd Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 Actually, my 1980 Cornwalls came with paperwork claiming they were Cornwall IIs. I think they used whatever labels and/or brochures were available at the time and didn't worry much about a bunch of Klipsch speaker fanatics questioning their methodologies 30 or 40 years in the future. Just a guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 But one side was very abused. How can you repair missing Veneer like this? my guess is that they were laid on their side for a while in their lives. My 63's have one torn up side like that, they are verticals also. There was a elongated base available for a while for this purpose but I've never seen it in use. I think it would be cool as heck to make my 63's as horizontal cabinets, with properly aligned grille material and logo and a long horizontal base. That would be uber cool in my 50's home! DIG that grille fabric and clear pie slice. Can the grille fabric be salvaged by cleaning? Is the grille board not removeable? My 63's are cane and it's wrapped around the motor board so not removeable. Looks like two tags on the back of that one (note the groovy brown back panel paint). Does one label give the horn orientation arrows? My 63's have orange painted arrows to indicate which side goes up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Mobley Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 Michael, You get the grill cloth going and I'll make you a set of horizontal risers. Probably be solid walnut though, that lumber core plywood with the thick veneer is long gone. Oops, are you speakers walnut? Doesn't matter, I guess. I can match up birch or whatever. How about slant long risers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Mobley Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 BTW Michael, even if the cloth is wrapped around the motorboard it still removeable. Take the back off, you'll see the screws holding the motorboards in from the back. No big deal-- on the early stuff anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budman Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 the last year for the pie slice logo was 1975. then the copper logo with the 3 horizontal lines was used for the next 3 years 76-77-78. then the new copper logo was used from then on to the present. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJkizak Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 My 1965 had the black plastic pie logo with gold accents and gold nails. JJK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 BTW Michael, even if the cloth is wrapped around the motorboard it still removeable. Take the back off, you'll see the screws holding the motorboards in from the back. No big deal-- on the early stuff anyway. Yes, understood, there are screws through the cleats. Had to be a bear to build and don't want to take it apart until ready to do the whole thing. I'm thinking fresh real cane and teak veneer for the 63's! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HudsonValleyNoah Posted February 19, 2009 Author Share Posted February 19, 2009 Looks like two tags on the back of that one (note the groovy brown back panel paint). Does one label give the horn orientation arrows? My 63's have orange painted arrows to indicate which side goes up! Yup, just as you said - no time to post - gotta run! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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