j-malotky Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 If you have a child or know someone who has a child on ADHD medication, please read this! I finally found a cure to ADHD and have my son and family back so I need to share this with all of you. My youngest son has been diagnosed with ADHD for approximately 2 years now. I have NEVER been happy with how they keep dialing up his medication to keep him “under control”. In fact I have noticed over the last year that the drugs have been subtly squashing his creativity. Also, please remember that there are NO long term studies for the drugs they have these ADHD kids on. I take that back, there are studies but on mature mental patents. There are no long term studies on what these drugs to do developing children whose nervous system is not fully insulated or developed. I had this crushing feeling that my child may become injured for life if I kept him on this ADHD medication long term. A few months ago I took him off his meds for a few days then took him to the museum. His excitement during the trip was evident. He even talked about what he learned there weeks after the trip. You have to remember that he goes there probably two times a year with the family and on school field trips etc. This trip was definitely different and re enforced my plans to do something outside the pill popping norm. What I did: Last year a close friend of ours recommended I read Dr Weathers book on how to cure ADHD. Here is a link to learn more. http://www.adhdhelp.org/sitemap.htm The Dr was an ADHD child himself so he has a very acute insight into what our children are experiencing. I read the book last summer / fall and his examples seemed to fit my son to a tee so I started to email Dr Weathers. I sold a bunch of devalued stock and booked a trip for my family to visit the Dr at his office in Spokane WA. This trip was NOT CHEAP and was a hard call in this rough economic time but my son only has one life so I took the plunge and made the commitment to do the intensive 3 day session 1-1 between Dr Weathers and my family. My first feedback that this was going to work was a few hours into our first day. The Dr started to work with my son on his reading problems. We have been told by his teachers that he needs special reading classes since he is well behind the rest of his 3rd grade class. The Dr worked with my son for about ½ hour after which my son able to sit down and read Harry Potter with little effort. Harry Potter was written at a 6th grade level. My jaw hit the floor watching my son do this? I then knew this was going to work for us. Back at home: The first day back at school, I was interested to see what feedback I would get from his school teacher. She emailed us at the end of the day saying that she did not notice any behavior changes except that he started many pleasant conversations. My reply back to her was – If you did not notice any significant behavior changes is a great improvement since he went to school today totally un-medicated. In fact since he started conversations about topic showed me he was actually paying attention and interested in the topics being presented to him at school. This was WAY COOL. She sent him home with a pile of uncompleted homework. My son worked a few hours every night for a few days and got caught up on his own will. All this extra work was completed without all the complaining, fire and water works of the past. He can now sit through boring church services and school sessions without disrupting everyone around him. His overall mood is much happier since he can now enjoy life without the medical blinders over his senses. His aggravating annoyances seem to have been replaced with my inquiries and investigation. I finally have my son back and he again has a bright future. I am so glad I did not put this off any longer. JM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksonbart Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 That is awesome, I think Doctors and Parents are way to soon to medicate their kids today for ADHD. Shit when I was in 1st grade I was always moving, tapping my foot, moving my hands, I am sure today they would have medicated the hell out of me. I had energy. Exercise and mental stimulus helps so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael hurd Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 Very interesting, I have a nephew that has ADHD as well. Before there was a 'label' for this, you were just labelled as 'hyperactive' etc in class, unable to sit still. I have noticed though that almost all of the people I knew / know of are all in business for themselves, self employed and do very well for themselves. They are not content to simply punch the clock, work for someone else and can't deal with idle time, more or less workaholics. However, the rewards later on in life far exceed what is possible 'working for the man'. My 2 cents. Should we be medicating this away and simply creating 'drones' in society? Absolutely not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 That's excellent news, congrats on getting your son back. [Y] Doesn't it seem like everyone's on something these days? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1101 Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 That is fantastic news. Congrats. I have a question. What was the secret? What treatment was done at the Drs. Office that "cured" the problem? I don't mean to pry but it is almost a miracle and I just wondered what the actual treatment was that cured him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RT FAN Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 First good news I've heard in weeks JM, I'm glad for your family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Amy Posted March 5, 2009 Moderators Share Posted March 5, 2009 Ugh. I have way too much experience with this topic, and all of it saddens me. But I'm so glad you have found a solution that works for your family! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arky Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 Very nice JM, hope all goes well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j-malotky Posted March 5, 2009 Author Share Posted March 5, 2009 mark1101: I have a question. What was the secret? What treatment was done at the Drs. Office that "cured" the problem? I don't mean to pry but it is almost a miracle and I just wondered what the actual treatment was that cured him. Mark, good question. The secret or magic is really the Dr himself. He has devoted his life to helping ADHD children. Since each child is different they have there own unique issues. Basically his noodle is full of knowledge of what has worked for children like my son in the past. Every trick my son tried to escape his discomfort of the moment the Dr was 3 steps ahead of his thought process. It was not an easy 3 days. It was very hard to watch my son breakdown as the Dr dug into what was going on in his head. There were times I just wanted to give my son a hug….but that would have undone his progress. The short version with my son is he found non productive ways to deal with his boredom. At school for example when he was bored he would disappear into his dream world. Daydreaming was much more interesting than the boring topic at hand. That is the very tip of the surface. When the teacher would see him daydream they would call him out to get his attention, or when I yelled at him to finish his homework or to not bother other people at church etc. etc. Basically my son lost self esteem over the last few years and convinced himself that he was not as smart as the other kids. To him, the negative attention he got was better than the boredom and he was in control of the negative attention. He really liked that. The other magic in the Dr’s tool belt is the CAER machines he developed and patented. The machine uses pre programmed music and eye movement in ways that I do not understand. I got to spend a few hours in the machine and I was amazed at how clear I could think about things while under its influence. It’s hard to describe but under its influence the emotions involved in the thoughts are lessened. For example if you think about someone cutting you off and flipping you the bird, the anger you feel is lessened as you think about the incident. The anger is still there, you know you are angry but the anger does not take over your thoughts. You know how when you are angry, the anger can buld and your thought process moves from angry thought to angry thought? The anger taking over just does not happen. Maybe a way to relate is this…. How many times have you noticed your mood change while listening to relaxing music? Or your emotions intensify when you listen to intense music? So with the kids in the machine, I assume my son got to think out his thoughts without the anger and frustration completely taking over his thought process. In the machine he would not loose control like he had in the past. One important thing to remember is that the Dr only works with families, not just the kids in order to get this to work. He works with the kids to figure out what is going on and teaching them how to relearn how to cope without the anger and frustration. With the parents, he teaches us what is going on so that we can relate to him when he does have issues. So now, I am empowered on how to relate and talk to him when he does start to slip. Obviously this is not a quick fix. One thing we need to do every night is to talk to him about how his day went and help him through the emotions with the new tools we as parents have. He still needs to deal with teachers who do not understand him as well as bullies and the other pressures of growing up. If we do not keep working with him he will re develop ways to escape the pressure. The Dr asks us to keep in touch with him so he can keep helping us as his needs evolve. Plus I hope having us help him over time will create a stronger bond between us. JM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j-malotky Posted March 5, 2009 Author Share Posted March 5, 2009 That is fantastic news. Congrats. I have a question. What was the secret? What treatment was done at the Drs. Office that "cured" the problem? I don't mean to pry but it is almost a miracle and I just wondered what the actual treatment was that cured him. Forum gave me two replies.... JM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1101 Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 Well that is great that you have the tools and understanding now. Best of luck. My sister-in-law has a son with the problem and at times we would take care of him and we also had family vacations together. I have three grown children of my own and have been a single parent as well with my hands full. But when this little guy (10 years old at the time) would come around, OMG. I really had no idea how to control the sudden outbursts and hyper behavior. I simply had no idea what to do. Eventually, and still today he is on medication and is a very calm kid now. He is 13 now and does well in school, sports, etc. You would never know anything about any problem talking to him or watching him now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddy Dee Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 JM thanks for posting. This is wonderful news. Good for you hanging in there with your son. Keep up the good work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seti Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 I was diagnosed add without the hyperactivity aspect. The drugs are terrible. I felt like a zombie looked like a zombie acted like a zombie and certainly was never hungry. It took the zest out of life imo. I hated it. Drugs are bad! In my opinion I was just bored with school and wouldn't pay attention because I just wasn't interested. If it was a subject I was into I could master it quickly but would be ready to move on too soon. In retrospect it seems I needed discipline instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscarsear Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 This is very interesting. If someone has a need to become involved with this I live very close to Spokane. Give me a PM and we'll take it from there. There is another very interesting thing to this program. Dr. Weathers absolutely refuses to treat the child if any member of the family smokes cigarettes. In looking at his prior failure rates he found that smoking was so frequently a denominator that he now refuses to deal with situations where it is involved. For all I know about tobaccos ill's I've never heard of any such thing. Curious, indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvel Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 I'm so glad to read this story, and hear a good outcome. My wife and I homeschooled all three of our children, so they didn't get into the kind of classroom situation where many of these things start. My wife had a niece whose son was in a private school, and not doing very well, the teachers saying he was disruptive, and couldn't do the work/assignments given to him. He was prescribed Ritalin, and went to school stoned every day. His schoolwork suffered even more, and he wasn't growing. His body weight was low and it was just awful. When it came time to enroll for the next year, they were told they would not accept him, and they couldn't find any school where he could get in. He could have gotten into the public school, but he would have been devoured. Sooooo....my wife talked to the niece and they arranged for my wife to have him every day during the week. The husband, a county deputy, worked an early shift, so he would get delivered back home in the early afternoon, where he would take over working with the son on the schoolwork. I should backtrack to where they stopped administering the Ritalin in the summer when he went off to summer camp (he did fine). But part way into the Fall, my wife noticed that he wasn't able to read well at all, his eyes couldn't follow the words on the page. She talked to the parents and told them she thought there was something wrong with his eyes. She did some research and found an eye doc who would do some tests on him. Ended up he had eye coordination problems, that could be helped by doing excercises. (Luci Johnson, the younger daughter of LBJ had the same problem) Well... the short story of it is that it worked, and he has gone on to do okay in public school, is not on Ritalin and has regained his body weight. The school didn't care, and the parents were really just about too busy to see what was happening. After all, you want to be able to trust the pediatrician you went to when you were a child, right? The fact of the matter is that the Ritalin was turning him into a zombie so he would just fit into the classroom. How often are these stories repeated across the country, often without a successful outcome? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksonbart Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 I hear Dr. Weathers smokes a nice cigar now & then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnyholiday Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 He needs an electric gheeeeeeeeeeeeeetar,[]...1..2..3,hit it...... roll tape.[8] "you laff at me because i'm different!, i laff at you because your all the same !!"[8]...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boom3 Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 I'm glad some families are getting help for this. My sister had an ADHD stepson; after 10 years of sheer hell, including meds, several doctors (some of whom in retro were frauds), institutions, including a reform school for uncontrollable boys, he seemed to be getting his act together and had married and had a child. Within a couple of years though, he was murdered by some "friends" who ripped him off and then lured him to a rural area where they killed him savagely. In retrospect, he died because ADHD people (usually boys) are so self-centered that they see other people as objects to be gotten around or bullied into submission, and cannot pick up warning signals from the social background the way most folks can. I know a couple of ADHD adults and their have sons often have the same problem, or their non-ADHD children act out in order to get attention from a father that is still dealing with his own problems. ADHD adults are capable of great creativity (some think ADHD and great creativity are a common coupling) but they need close, understanding supervision in order to finish tasks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j-malotky Posted March 6, 2009 Author Share Posted March 6, 2009 JohnnyHoliday and boom3's post are timely. In thinking back on life, I probably could have been diagnosed with ADHD too. My therepy during my high school and young adult years was rocking out playing guitar and drums. In grade school the only reason I did not get picked on by my teachers was becasue another boy was much more disruptive. Anytime anything went wrong the teacher imediately went to him. Todd hung himself in his parents garage at the age of 16. He was robbed of the chance to ever fall in love and learn what life could be. Remembering Todd also was my motivation to get some help for my son. I was scared that he may fall into the pit of depression or worse. JM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 depression kills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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